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« on: December 17, 2014, 21:14:04 pm » |
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Quote courtesy of the BBC site.
Tell you what Chris, wrap that up, stick a bow on it and I'll swap it for all the Christmas presents I might get next Thursday....
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MK_Cobbler
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2014, 07:43:52 am » |
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Encouraging isn't it...
I think I my rush down to Sixfields now and stock up on tickets...
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Deepcut Cobbler
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2014, 07:49:48 am » |
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Might have helped to have said this at the start of the season?
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“They shall grow not old as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.” Laurence Binyon
The Hotelend Grand National Sweepstake Champion 2009
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sxcobbler
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2014, 10:04:37 am » |
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The way things are going ....maybe we would be lucky with a mid table finish .
It obviously all hinges on the effect of getting the injured players back and CW' s next reckless venture in to the January transfer market .
I , along with many others, was optimistic at the start of the season.
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Let's show some Ambition !
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Deepcut Cobbler
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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2014, 10:22:43 am » |
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If I was DC, I would refuse him funds for January and tell him to work with the players he has got through to the end of the season and see what the response was.
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“They shall grow not old as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.” Laurence Binyon
The Hotelend Grand National Sweepstake Champion 2009
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Ryan Amoo 14
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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2014, 10:55:14 am » |
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If I was DC, I would refuse him funds for January and tell him to work with the players he has got through to the end of the season and see what the response was.
Bit odd. What's wrong with letting him change the squad as long as the net effect of those changes (likely departure of Toney aside) doesn't cost us an amount DC is unhappy with....? Could probably have 3 Lawson D'Aths on the payroll for the same wages as Darren Carter. Also - after January we have almost zero players due to the number of loans which expire! |
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clarkeysntfc
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2014, 13:24:54 pm » |
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If we let all the loans go back except the 2 season-long deals, we would be fine.
However I'm a bit concerned that CW thinks we are "up and down"... I'd say the last 10 league games shows very much more down than up.
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St Edmundsbury Cobbler
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« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2014, 13:32:34 pm » |
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I'd have taken midtable at the start of the season, that's a vast improvement of 10 places on last season.
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NaggerPagger
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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2014, 13:33:56 pm » |
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Mid table with signs of improvement would not be the end of the world.
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John
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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2014, 17:15:07 pm » |
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Midtable would in my opinion be yet another wasted season but hey ho, we've all got different standards.
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DrillingCobbler
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2014, 18:23:56 pm » |
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It's not been the case much recently john but on this occasion we are in total agreement.
Mid table with the current budget would be a big underachievement. Certain posters are forgetting that we produced top7 form for the last 20 games last season before making big improvements (on paper) to the squad in the summer. I would be surprised if they are anybody's bosses with that negative mind set!!
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Dr Feelgood
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2014, 19:11:53 pm » |
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I think the BBC are aiming too high.
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For goodness sake Doc we are NOT going down  you heard it here 1st  (I damn well hope that does not come back to haunt me) |
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clarkeysntfc
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2014, 20:20:55 pm » |
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I concur with Drilling & Marvo.
In a league where smaller clubs with small budgets achieve better than we do, such as Burton and Exeter are now, its hard to look at mid table as anything other than underachievement.
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guest47
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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2014, 21:08:33 pm » |
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I concur with Drilling & Marvo.
In a league where smaller clubs with small budgets achieve better than we do, such as Burton and Exeter are now, its hard to look at mid table as anything other than underachievement.
We've got to stop thinking that paying a little extra than other clubs in the league is going to make much difference. You need to have budgets way above others before you can buy your way out of the division. We are certainly with the rest - gambling on freebies and loans. |
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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2014, 22:05:02 pm » |
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it would be a massive underachievement... Its how you use the buget and spend it on the RIGHT types of players to suit his style of play. This is where Wilder has fallen down IMO.
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bri77
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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2014, 22:05:51 pm » |
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Mid table is not good enough at all, have some fans been brain washed by the several dog fights we've had to accept anything above that is fine.
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guest49
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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2014, 05:35:18 am » |
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We've got to stop thinking that paying a little extra than other clubs in the league is going to make much difference. You need to have budgets way above others before you can buy your way out of the division. We are certainly with the rest - gambling on freebies and loans.
That's a good point. If two people work in an office and one gets 20k a year and the other 30k, it doesn't mean the one on more money will offer better value or higher performance. That applies up and down the footballing ladder. The relative small differences of a league 2 budget doesn't guarantee success. You could afford a squad of 35 players who are all rubbish..... |
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garibaldi
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2014, 06:41:32 am » |
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I'm sure, however, there would be words said if it were shown we had one of the lower budgets. We might be accused of not trying to compete.
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Bingers
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2014, 06:50:03 am » |
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I'd have taken midtable at the start of the season, that's a vast improvement of 10 places on last season.
I'm with St. Ed. I get Marvo's point, but haven't all those other seasons been wasted as well. But we've all been there through thick and thin. |
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DrillingCobbler
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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2014, 07:22:16 am » |
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I agree that the budget isn't much of an advantage, unlike the time when CC was the manager. But even so, if you have say the 5th biggest budget (complete guess but probably about right) then finishing 12th-16th isn't good enough. End of.
What's happened in previous years is not relevant. The injuries have massively influenced the recent struggles, but other factors have added to it.
I still hope that we can recover enough to enable at least a comfortable 2nd half of the season to ensure that we do not have to make another costly managerial change, but on the evidence of the last 10 games that's going to be touch and go. At this rate we will need the 'bounce' that a new boss often brings.
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