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« on: February 08, 2015, 14:29:30 pm »

I've read quite a few articles on penalties and they all seem to say the same thing. If you place the ball in the top third of the goal you get a 100% success rate. Bearing that in mind, why do we always seem to choose penalty takers who either hit it low to the left or right and why is it that these players seem incapable of striking the ball upwards towards the top of the goal? Have we really got nobody in the team that can just blast it?
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2015, 14:37:28 pm »

100% Unlikely!!!!
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2015, 14:53:35 pm »

Easier said than done. Even elite players are not capable/willing of hitting the top corner with 100mph shots every time.
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2015, 15:04:16 pm »

100% Unlikely!!!!

Google it. They all say the same. Don't forget, they are only talking about penalties that are saved, not missed. When do you remember a keeper saving a penalty heading for the top corner?
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2015, 15:07:00 pm »

Easier said than done. Even elite players are not capable/willing of hitting the top corner with 100mph shots every time.

The problem is that if it is a 100mph shot the chances of missing the aimed spot and therefore the goal raises quite considerably. Statistically the best spot is hard straight down the middle but you look a right idiot if that is saved.

I reckon Rico spotted the goalkeeper going to his left as he ran up and that made him adjust it a few centimetres too much to his right.
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2015, 15:13:33 pm »

Maybe they need to watch how Matt Le Tissier took them he scored all the time..
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2015, 15:30:01 pm »

Google it. They all say the same. Don't forget, they are only talking about penalties that are saved, not missed. When do you remember a keeper saving a penalty heading for the top corner?

Had you said most, even 95% I might have agreed. But 100% is factually incorrect.
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2015, 15:33:14 pm »

Have you got figures for the amount of times a player aims for the top corner and doesn't blast it over the bar? Probably why players don't do it more.
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2015, 15:33:38 pm »

Had you said most, even 95% I might have agreed. But 100% is factually incorrect.

That would be dependant on the time frame of the penalties they researched. If it was every penalty that had ever been taken, EVER, I reckon you'd be right. However it wasn't, in was one league over one season so...

Oh and it's not me that's saying it, it the researchers.
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2015, 15:35:18 pm »

Have you got figures for the amount of times a player aims for the top corner and doesn't blast it over the bar? Probably why players don't do it more.

No I haven't because like I said, they didn't count penalties that missed, only those saved.

Are you really saying professional players aren't capable of placing a ball in the top third of the goal?
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2015, 15:50:44 pm »

Chris Waddle springs to mind
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2015, 15:53:55 pm »

No I haven't because like I said, they didn't count penalties that missed, only those saved.

Are you really saying professional players aren't capable of placing a ball in the top third of the goal?

That's a lot easier said than done when taking penalties. Although I don't have figures to back it, I would feel much more confident about hitting the target when aiming low than high.
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2015, 17:43:11 pm »

The appliance of science
http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zgg334j
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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2015, 17:53:52 pm »

The appliance of science
http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zgg334j

That pretty much backs up what I read, the graph of the goal shows all but one of the penalties in the top third counted.
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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2015, 18:36:02 pm »

That pretty much backs up what I read, the graph of the goal shows all but one of the penalties in the top third counted.
Exactly. Once the keeper has dived, gravity is gonna be doing its thing.
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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2015, 19:14:23 pm »

Guess if penalties were just such an easy nailed on thing...we wouldn't have penalty shootouts as deciders at all...Worcester v Scunny scenarios would certainly be pretty common place!
Still, I don't know, whenever the Cobbs get a pen, superstition gets the better of me and I look away! No idea what direction they're placed!  Grin
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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2015, 20:00:02 pm »

Chris Waddle springs to mind

remember it well and over the bar!
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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2015, 20:09:29 pm »

I knew he was going to miss it when I saw the two people either side of me videoing the peno on their phones.

Why do people do that? I've always been interested to know why people feel the need to do this at football matches. If you are one of them, please tell me  Tongue
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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2015, 20:09:48 pm »

Apparently generally 80% of penalty kicks are scored. There is one interesting factor -  players under 23 score 85% and those over over 29 just 79%. You would have thought it was the other way round.
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« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2015, 20:13:07 pm »

Like somebody else said. If it was as simple as putting it in a certain place, they'd all be doing it. Every now and then you'll get the odd player that can hit it where he wants the majority of the time. But they are few and far between.
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