BedsCobb
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« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2015, 14:04:09 pm » |
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Few years back I was working in Kensington, developing a luxury apartment for a Russian billionaire, (aluminium). Very friendly chap, spoke to both him and his daughter a few times. However it did cross my mind to ask him if he had plans to join Abramovic in buying a football club, as I had one in particular he could have for very little outlay.... But sadly breaking ranks like this was a step to far.... I sometimes wonder, if only?
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Mistical
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« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2015, 16:35:36 pm » |
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I don't think so, no. Northampton is a rugby town and I don't think even a Premiership/Championship side would change that. Look at Wigan.
We need to just enjoy being what we are, a mid-sized League Two club, who occasionally get a tilt at League One. Hopefully we won't go any lower than or else I think our fanbase would be seriously damaged.
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Zen Master
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« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2015, 17:09:20 pm » |
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I think someone should just take this city of Peterborough and just... just flush it down the f***in' toilet
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ajp
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« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2015, 17:11:32 pm » |
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I don't think so, no. Northampton is a rugby town and I don't think even a Premiership/Championship side would change that. Look at Wigan.
We need to just enjoy being what we are, a mid-sized League Two club, who occasionally get a tilt at League One. Hopefully we won't go any lower than or else I think our fanbase would be seriously damaged.
Don't see why we couldn't be a lower mid table championship side with right infrastructure etc.
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everbrite
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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2015, 17:14:39 pm » |
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Don't see why we couldn't be a lower mid table championship side with right infrastructure etc.
agreed or even in the Premier; can be done as we all know
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Deepcut Cobbler
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« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2015, 17:16:43 pm » |
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To me, we ARE a big club...
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“They shall grow not old as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them.” Laurence Binyon
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everbrite
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« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2015, 17:23:53 pm » |
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To me, we ARE a big club...
Good one and pretty impressed by you coming up from the South West to see the game. 5.45AM bedtime
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Deepcut Cobbler
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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2015, 17:37:06 pm » |
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Good one and pretty impressed by you coming up from the South West to see the game. 5.45AM bedtime 'Only' Surrey, not so far...two hours after being dropped off at Sixfields.
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“They shall grow not old as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them.” Laurence Binyon
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« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2015, 17:38:43 pm » |
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We're not a rugby town at all. They just offer a superior product at the moment and so they get more through the gates.
A Cobblers side achieving considerably less than the premier league and European level that the Saints are at would soon draw bigger gates than them.
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everbrite
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« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2015, 17:45:16 pm » |
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We're not a rugby town at all. They just offer a superior product at the moment and so they get more through the gates.
A Cobblers side achieving considerably less than the premier league and European level that the Saints are at would soon draw bigger gates than them.
Spot on
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BedsCobb
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« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2015, 19:09:45 pm » |
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We're not a rugby town at all. They just offer a superior product at the moment and so they get more through the gates.
A Cobblers side achieving considerably less than the premier league and European level that the Saints are at would soon draw bigger gates than them.
Also agree, the Saints have just posted profits for the 17th year running and are not afraid to cash in on their successful product, adult tickets £46 children just £25 In 1982 Franklin gardens consisted of a club house a wooden main stand and a tiny cowshed which on a good day, usually when a welsh team visited, they got bumper crowds of 700 plus. It was only after Keith Barwell realised that with the on set of the professional game that the Saints could become a major player. We have never had a Chairman with genuine visionary ambitions for the club, some well meaning but lacking Mr Barwells vision and some right clowns who shouldn't be allowed near a club. Our day will come only if we take back the surrounding land and hold in trust for a genuine investor who will redevelop the ground and team first and then use the land for enabling and some further growth. What's happening to the land at the moment? Could be the answer to the OPs question.
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Zen Master
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« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2015, 19:27:13 pm » |
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Separating the ownership of club from ground from nearby land spells trouble. Could the Trust still request it to be registered as an Asset of Community Value? Blending threads yet again.
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I think someone should just take this city of Peterborough and just... just flush it down the f***in' toilet
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« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2015, 19:47:14 pm » |
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Separating the club from ownership of the land nearby spells the end of the club. Nobody would ever even consider buying it if the land didn't come as part of the deal.
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« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2015, 20:03:30 pm » |
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Separating the club from ownership of the land nearby spells the end of the club. Nobody would ever even consider buying it if the land didn't come as part of the deal.
It does when you're facing liabilities of almost £20m........it wasn't always the way was it?
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« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2015, 22:12:42 pm » |
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So it is a rugby town right now then?
No, I don't think so. More people go to the rugby but that does not make it a rugby town. Wigan is the obvious example of a rugby town. Regardless of their footballing success, the Rugby Club were and are the big draw. The town never have really got fully behind the football club. I don't think Northampton is anything like that.
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Mistical
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« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2015, 22:57:55 pm » |
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The Saints get more fans than us and I'm sure they'd get even more if they had a bigger stadium. We can't fill our smaller stadium, even with cheaper prices than them. They consistently make profits and are known nationally and continentally. I love NTFC but looking at it realistically we're just a bog-standard lower league football club with very little to distinguish ourselves from other ones in this league.
I don't see how Northampton isn't a rugby town. Apart from the odd play-off final and the Man U game, when has the town ever got behind the Cobblers? This 'potential' of five-figure crowds seems a bit farfetched, I've not seen any signs of this potential, even when we were in League One.
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Zen Master
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« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2015, 06:52:51 am » |
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Separating the club from ownership of the land nearby spells the end of the club. Nobody would ever even consider buying it if the land didn't come as part of the deal.
It comes as part of the deal but the land was transferred from English Partnerships to NBC to NTFC and a private developer ( county group). So although they are connected there is a difference.
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I think someone should just take this city of Peterborough and just... just flush it down the f***in' toilet
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John
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« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2015, 08:23:05 am » |
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The Saints get more fans than us and I'm sure they'd get even more if they had a bigger stadium. We can't fill our smaller stadium, even with cheaper prices than them. They consistently make profits and are known nationally and continentally. I love NTFC but looking at it realistically we're just a bog-standard lower league football club with very little to distinguish ourselves from other ones in this league.
I don't see how Northampton isn't a rugby town. Apart from the odd play-off final and the Man U game, when has the town ever got behind the Cobblers? This 'potential' of five-figure crowds seems a bit farfetched, I've not seen any signs of this potential, even when we were in League One.
In 1965/6 we had over 24,000 in against Fulham and our average gate that season was around the 18,000 mark. I guess sticking to the limited criteria people assess these things by on here that we were then a football town.
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« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2015, 09:19:42 am » |
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If the new owners have the finances then yes. If not, then no. It's as simple as that. Whether or not we are a rugby or football Town is just as easily answered. If we are in the prem then we are a football Town. If we are in the championship or below, then we are a rugby Town. At the moment we are a cast iron guaranteed rugby town. And rightly so. As that is where the investment into sport in this town has gone. And that is where they have/had a chairman who lived up to his own hype. I would guarantee that we would struggle to see crowds much over 13-14 thousand for 90% of games even in the championship.
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