JollyCobbler
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Revell (better than Collins or Marquis) and Zakuani (better than Prosser)
His stats would suggest otherwise. I appreciate he seems more of a hold up player, but (at least on paper) I'd argue he's no better option than Collins, and it remains to be seen how he stacks up compared to Marquis, too.
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I would say Zakuani is probably better than Prosser, although it worries me slightly that he would accept a one year contract from us: what does that suggest about his fitness? Hanley is probably a better long term prospect than Horwood and by the sounds of it Philips is probably a slightly better bet than Lelan given his L1 experience.
Other than that I have to say I'm struggling.
The next few signings will probably be first team starters rather than ones for the future. The signings of attacking midfielders to replace Adams and Holmes will be particularly crucial and will go a long way to deciding our fate this season.
Philips probably so, but I personally thought Lelan had potential and was worth a deal. The thing that worries me with Hanley, he is 22 years old and yet never even been subject to any loan deals. So, how good he is, or isn't, can't really be judged by any of us.
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JollyCobbler
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To give negative chumps something to moan about.................
It does show the like for like replacements and shows that we have a lot of budget to spend on the remaining 4 players, who all need to be an improvement on what we've already got and therefore first team players
So presumably you've seen those players' contracts, yes? While we're on it, how much budget does the manager have to play with this year? And also, if you wouldn't mind sharing, how much did we get for Holmes?
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So presumably you've seen those players' contracts, yes? While we're on it, how much budget does the manager have to play with this year? And also, if you wouldn't mind sharing, how much did we get for Holmes? The chap explains more than once that they are blind estimates. It's just a bit of fun and what these boards are meant for.
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Cobbler78
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His stats would suggest otherwise. I appreciate he seems more of a hold up player, but (at least on paper) I'd argue he's no better option than Collins, and it remains to be seen how he stacks up compared to Marquis, too.
Revell been playing at a higher level for longer. Are you suggesting Dave Smith from Dog and Duck Sunday league who scored one more goal than Harry Kane this season is a better player? Honestly, sometimes I wonder?
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JollyCobbler
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Revell been playing at a higher level for longer. Are you suggesting Dave Smith from Dog and Duck Sunday league who scored one more goal than Harry Kane this season is a better player? Honestly, sometimes I wonder?
Sometimes you wonder, do you? You have a twenty-five year old who has scored 87 goals in 286 games, and a 33 year old, who has scored 94 goals in 494 games. I know which one seems the better long term investment to me. Of course, I'm looking at the facts, and you just like to pull those out of thin air
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Gavntfc
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Anybody heard anymore rumours? Got a feeling we are going to sign 1 or 2 quality players over next few days
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Can see us bring in another Centre mid and Centre forward both have to be better than we have presently got.
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Centre forward, 2 attacking mids/wingers, centre mid and another centre back (assuming Cresswell goes)
Really think we should go for Green from Mansfield.
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im still hoping we will bring in players of quality to help us retain league one status and as a club on the up on push abit , no disrespect to the players brought in but i dont feel we have improved at all in terms of quality other than the left and right back covers , i just hope we will have 3-4 nailed on first teamers coming in , but i think we will wont we
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Hi, long time reader...etc
There's a lot of talk on here about us potentially signing another Striker, especially of the pacey / fox in the box type. If that was to happen then it surely means we are moving away from the 4231 formation which was so good to watch and going 442. How would everyone feel about that?
Obviously the new manager may play that way anyway but I thought we were at our best last season when playing 4231, it would be shame if it was left behind. Of course we need to replace Holmes and Adams and maybe sign one more of that type to play that way. Should be enough goals that we wouldn't need 1 main scorer then.
Thoughts?
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Centre forward, 2 attacking mids/wingers, centre mid and another centre back (assuming Cresswell goes)
Really think we should go for Green from Mansfield.
How many more times - Green is very injury prone and had a fair amount of time out last season due to serious injury.
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How many more times - Green is very injury prone and had a fair amount of time out last season due to serious injury.
You mean the same Matt Green who played 43 games in the League last year? Just because he had a few problems when at Birmingham, doesn't mean he is going to continue having them I was just throwing his name out there again. Any other suggestions?
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Hi, long time reader...etc
There's a lot of talk on here about us potentially signing another Striker, especially of the pacey / fox in the box type. If that was to happen then it surely means we are moving away from the 4231 formation which was so good to watch and going 442. How would everyone feel about that?
Obviously the new manager may play that way anyway but I thought we were at our best last season when playing 4231, it would be shame if it was left behind. Of course we need to replace Holmes and Adams and maybe sign one more of that type to play that way. Should be enough goals that we wouldn't need 1 main scorer then.
Thoughts?
I agree, much prefer the 4231 system but with Rico and Revell there is not much mobility and although I like Hoskins, I believe we should try bring in a more verstile or pacey striker so that we atleast have a futher the option
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You mean the same Matt Green who played 43 games in the League last year? Just because he had a few problems when at Birmingham, doesn't mean he is going to continue having them
I was just throwing his name out there again. Any other suggestions?
He had injury problems last season - source Stags Forum. His movement on off ball has been restricted because of injury problems. For me Matt Taylor !!?
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MKMal
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He had injury problems last season - source Stags Forum. His movement on off ball has been restricted because of injury problems. For me Matt Taylor !!?
Apparently Brentford are in for Matt Taylor
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EssTeeFree
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I agree, much prefer the 4231 system but with Rico and Revell there is not much mobility and although I like Hoskins, I believe we should try bring in a more verstile or pacey striker so that we atleast have a futher the option
Revell by all accounts is pretty mobile and a bit of workhorse. With the 4231 though I think you want your striker to stay central and occupy the Centre Backs, creates space for the 3 to operate. Agree on Hoskins and agree on the need for variety but I can't see us signing an established striker as an option, especially as I'd imagine Revell and Richards take up a decent chunk of budget
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GrangeParkCobbler
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Suffered a serious injury in February 2013 which put him out of action for 18 months, missed the whole of the 13/14 season, only played 6 games in 2014/15 and just 12 appearances last season, the last of which was as a half-time sub against Liverpool in the Cup in January....didn't play another minute of the season. Would you offer him any more than a year??
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Suffered a serious injury in February 2013 which put him out of action for 18 months, missed the whole of the 13/14 season, only played 6 games in 2014/15 and just 12 appearances last season, the last of which was as a half-time sub against Liverpool in the Cup in January....didn't play another minute of the season.
Would you offer him any more than a year??
Nope, I wouldn't.
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