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« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2016, 10:25:29 am »

Now will be the true test of Page , He was brought in to keep things ticking over in an already built team.

And by that measure I'd say he's already failed. Clearly hasn't sold his vision for next season to the players already here. Not a good start at all. I certainly don't feel sorry for him.
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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2016, 10:28:55 am »

If it's Sheff Utd could a deal be done including Calvert-lewin coming our way? Big gamble for Ricky, untested at L1 level and if some of those shots that flew in end up in row z and he faces some smarter, quicker full backs I doubt Utd fans will have the patience with him that we would. That said since his arrival from Pompey he's been great for us and I'll be sorry to see him go. Also gutted for RP, bet the job is looking different now to the one he walked into.
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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2016, 10:29:37 am »

Marquis - Replaceable
Rose - Replaceable
Adams - Replaceable
Collins - Replaceable

Holmes - Irreplaceable

This is not good news for us but there is absolutely nothing we can do about it. Let's just hope it is resolved quickly and we move on.

seriously?Huh?Huh???  He is a great player, but not irreplaceable.
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« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2016, 10:31:56 am »

That's the spirit. We may as well have it written into players contracts that they are free to stay just so long as they feel like it.

We have won the league and all of a sudden become a seemingly very unattractive club to players. Rose, Adams, Holmes and who knows who else wanting out. Is Page that much of an unlikable person? Why were we a bigger pull when we were in League Two??

The irony is the players who were desperate to play for us (Marquis and Lelan) weren't offered terms.

You do realise that most of the players won't have met Page yet?!  The issue is not Page, or anyone at the club.  The issue is that they raised their profile last year, and other clubs are willing to offer them a wage that we cannot afford to without risking our financial stability.  It's not that difficult to understand.
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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2016, 10:34:18 am »

Without Ricky Holmes we are relegation candidates.
It's not so much the playing value that must be taken into consideration it's the cost of his loss to us.
I'd suggest £500,000 isn't much good for the long term future of the club if we are back in league two and all momentum is lost.
It could set us back years.
If we have any ambition we'd make him see his contract out and sod the cash.
We need to consolidate in league one not sell our best players and come back down.
I don't see Oxford or Bristol rovers selling their best players.
Same old cobblers,
A pound note flutters by and we feel compelled to sell.
He is still our player and he should be made to see out his contract.
Whatever cash is offered you are not going to replace Ricky Holmes.
Man Utd couldn't replace Ronaldo
Spurs couldn't replace bale
We as sure as hell won't replace Holmes.
If he goes we are right in the **** as far as I'm concerned.


Didn't Spurs have their best season in years last season WITHOUT Bale.  And suggesting losing Holmes makes us relegation candidates is right up there with the biggest overreactions I have heard in years.
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« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2016, 10:34:26 am »

And by that measure I'd say he's already failed. Clearly hasn't sold his vision for next season to the players already here. Not a good start at all. I certainly don't feel sorry for him.

Page has no way failed - no manager could have kept Holmes here  - clearly he wants to be Wilder if rumours that its Sheffield who are the concerned team are true.

Yes Holmes has done great for us but lets not forget the 17 league games he didnt play for us when we were still winning games and looking like a great team.

NTFC success last year was a team effort and not any individual.

The Holmes lovefest is as nearly nauseating as the Bayo lovefest. We will move on  - the club is bigger than any one player.
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« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2016, 10:35:41 am »

Page has no way failed - no manager could have kept Holmes here  - clearly he wants to be Wilder if rumours that its Sheffield who are the concerned team are true.

Yes Holmes has done great for us but lets not forget the 17 league games he didnt play for us when we were still winning games and looking like a great team.

NTFC success last year was a team effort and not any individual.

The Holmes lovefest is as nearly nauseating as the Bayo lovefest. We will move on  - the club is bigger than any one player.

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« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2016, 10:39:12 am »

And by that measure I'd say he's already failed. Clearly hasn't sold his vision for next season to the players already here. Not a good start at all. I certainly don't feel sorry for him.

I do - after CW left it was always going to be hard !
You clearly don't support Page.
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« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2016, 10:39:55 am »

Without Ricky Holmes we are relegation candidates.
It's not so much the playing value that must be taken into consideration it's the cost of his loss to us.
I'd suggest £500,000 isn't much good for the long term future of the club if we are back in league two and all momentum is lost.
It could set us back years.
If we have any ambition we'd make him see his contract out and sod the cash.
We need to consolidate in league one not sell our best players and come back down.
I don't see Oxford or Bristol rovers selling their best players.
Same old cobblers,
A pound note flutters by and we feel compelled to sell.
He is still our player and he should be made to see out his contract.
Whatever cash is offered you are not going to replace Ricky Holmes.
Man Utd couldn't replace Ronaldo
Spurs couldn't replace bale
We as sure as hell won't replace Holmes.
If he goes we are right in the **** as far as I'm concerned.


Blimey.  

A few months ago the club was on the brink of not existing, on the back of incredible success since then some of our assets have become attractive/valuable.  This is a (relatively) good problem to have.  

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« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2016, 10:40:43 am »

Some of you Dick heads need to get a grip. It was always going to happen.
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« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2016, 10:41:26 am »

How many goals and assists did Holmes and Adams manage between them last year?

Page has a MASSIVE job on his hands!
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« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2016, 10:41:53 am »

Page has no way failed - no manager could have kept Holmes here  - clearly he wants to be Wilder if rumours that its Sheffield who are the concerned team are true.

Yes Holmes has done great for us but lets not forget the 17 league games he didnt play for us when we were still winning games and looking like a great team.

NTFC success last year was a team effort and not any individual.

The Holmes lovefest is as nearly nauseating as the Bayo lovefest. We will move on  - the club is bigger than any one player.
Agree with that but it still hurts! Wilder talking about strengthening his centre of midfield is JJ next?
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« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2016, 10:43:15 am »

SX Cobbler is right. I am very disappointed about Holmes, the most exciting player we have seen for a very long time, but I accept that he is leaving us. The main thing is that for once the club gets the transfer fee that a player of his ability commands and that the bulk of the money received is made available to RP for a replacement.
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« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2016, 10:43:50 am »

anyone who thought Holmes would be here for the start of this season is deluded - his profile has never been higher, its his last chance for a decent contract / payday - he wont get that with us.

it is always hard to replace a match winner obviously, but you cant say how much of a loss it is until we have a replacement in.

DCL will not be the answer.





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« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2016, 10:44:37 am »

I do - after CW left it was always going to be hard !
You clearly don't support Page.

He was my preferred choice as manager.

I'm just stating that he has rather spectacularly failed at his first and arguably most important task which was to keep the damn team together.

So far we've signed a journeyman on his way down and a lad who's never kicked a ball in a 1st team match as replacements. Early days but not very encouraging is it?
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« Reply #35 on: June 15, 2016, 10:50:13 am »

One thing him handing in a transfer request just might do is to alert others of his avalibility - which may just start a bit of a bidding war?
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« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2016, 10:51:34 am »

We always had a challenge to keep him, that was made even harder when Wilder left as he was likely to come in for him.
I wonder if some of his reasoning to leave is based on Adams leaving and some of the comments he said at that time.

One of the annoying things will be the inevitable undisclosed fee!
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« Reply #37 on: June 15, 2016, 10:52:21 am »

Didn't Spurs have their best season in years last season WITHOUT Bale.  And suggesting losing Holmes makes us relegation candidates is right up there with the biggest overreactions I have heard in years.

Spurs got €100m for Bale, enough to build a new team. How many first team new players will the RH money buy us?
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« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2016, 10:54:45 am »

He was my preferred choice as manager.

I'm just stating that he has rather spectacularly failed at his first and arguably most important task which was to keep the damn team together.

So far we've signed a journeyman on his way down and a lad who's never kicked a ball in a 1st team match as replacements. Early days but not very encouraging is it?

How exactly is page at fault with any of this - as people have pointed out he hasn't even met with the players yet. Once wilder left it's obvious that Holmes wanted to leave - just look at his tweets over the last few weeks
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« Reply #39 on: June 15, 2016, 10:55:57 am »

Spurs got €100m for Bale, enough to build a new team. How many first team new players will the RH money buy us?

Depends how far some second hand training bibs and a Nandos voucher stretches these days.
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