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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2016, 19:31:47 pm »

What are fans views on him..........

A luxury winger who shows only flashes but has no work ethic......shades of our old player "Demon"and even he seemed to try harder.

If he showed a fraction of the work rate of Revell it would be a ten fold improvement......he doesn't even seem to want to take players and use his undoubted speed???

He surely has potential ......and video clips show this.....will we see the best of him in a Cobblers shirt?

As most predicted. Lightweight with a lack of desire. Just what you'd expect from a young Dutch unproven premier league player.
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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2016, 20:26:04 pm »

As most predicted. Lightweight with a lack of desire. Just what you'd expect from a young Dutch unproven premier league player.

I don't get the lack of desire. Why would that be?
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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2016, 20:33:46 pm »

I don't get the lack of desire. Why would that be?
Perhaps he thinks he is too good for L1 football? He may be homesick? Feeling slightly hung over? May think "I'm not here for long. Why try"?
Who knows, but it does seem to be a common view from those who saw the match?
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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2016, 20:57:00 pm »

He's what I call a row Z player.  Show him down the outside and he'll always cut in, which becomes vey predictable.  Revell released him down the left 1st half yesterday, their full back as good as said "go outside me" and Gorre backed right out when a real counter attack opportunity was on. 2nd half the same except he kept tracking in and lost the opportunity to release Potter in acres of space.  Taylor gave him a rollicking. Maybe a lack of confidence to back himself to take his full back on and get to the by line? 2nd half he also seemed to get very static and didn't run off the ball or into space. 
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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2016, 07:15:36 am »

Hoskins should be starting ahead of him IMO. Much more experienced, hard worker, tracks back and scores goals - Wilder was starting him in the three towards the end of last season. Oh, and he's also here for more than six months.

Gorre should be used in the same way as DCL last year: pace and impact off the bench. Let him play his way into starting if hes good enough.

Page has arguably improved every aspect of the team except the three attacking midfielders behind the striker. I agree with others that we still need a big player in this department to fill the Holmes-shaped void. I'd like to see us dip into L2 or non-league to bring someone in. Dean Cox has been mentioned and he's the type to fit the bill.
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« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2016, 07:50:15 am »

Gorre is poor at the moment. You can see he's technically good but once he gets the ball at his feet he seems at a loss with what to do with it, usually resulting in him running into a defender. I guess a lot of it is due to a lack of experience, but he should by now be better than he is. There were a few times on Saturday where he got the ball in good areas, with options to either side, and just dithered until he lost the ball. I genuinely couldn't tell if he a) hadn't seen the options b) had seen them but couldn't make up his mind or c) was being greedy and waiting to get an opportunity for himself. Either way, he managed to completely snuff out our attacking impetus by eventually doing nothing!
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« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2016, 08:51:43 am »

Page has arguably improved every aspect of the team except the three attacking midfielders behind the striker.

I find this incredibly frustrating, because every other aspect of our team look very very good.
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« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2016, 09:47:36 am »

I find this incredibly frustrating, because every other aspect of our team look very very good.

Contrary to our preseason campaign which sent me and others into a melodramatic tailspin, Page seems to have assembled a very soild League One outfit with a spine of experience and strength. However, as many have said we are probably two players short of being a team which can genuinely compete rather than simply survive at this level. One is a hardworking creative midfielder in the Holmes mold and one is a fast striker to provide a plan B off the bench,

I think the problem is that we relied on Holmes a lot towards the end of last season. Adams went off the boil, Martin blew hot and cold and D'ath never really got going. He was always going to be a tough one to replace and perhaps we need to be patient. In the meantime however I really don't think Gorre should be starting, particularly as he will be gone by January.
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« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2016, 10:02:21 am »

Good post bungle completely agree
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« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2016, 11:20:30 am »

If moloney is 2nd choice full back behind Phillips, could he be used further forward, decent pace, good link up play, can deliver a cross and one day is going to lash one in from 35yrds. Still time to bring in a couple so not too unhappy with things as they stand, hanley and jak mc to chuck in the equation too.
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« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2016, 11:55:19 am »

In all seriousness as someone pointed out earlier the problem with young loanees from the premiership is that you have to maintain a relationship with the parent club - hopefully page will be ruthless enough to drop/rest him when he feels fit, I don't think Swansea would be too happy though.

Interesting view but if Swansea are not happy it should be with the player rather than us. Loan or not we are in a competitive league and for me lack of work ethic is the cardinal sin - I'm ok for a couple more games "to adjust" -  but if no improvement he should be sent back - totally with Manwork on this one in that there is no room for passengers
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« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2016, 17:30:52 pm »

I only saw him against Fleetwood but think he can be a really good player
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« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2016, 18:20:20 pm »

Interesting view but if Swansea are not happy it should be with the player rather than us. Loan or not we are in a competitive league and for me lack of work ethic is the cardinal sin - I'm ok for a couple more games "to adjust" -  but if no improvement he should be sent back - totally with Manwork on this one in that there is no room for passengers

I think all these excuses for Gorre's performance particularly v Charlton are a bit fanciful. He jumped out of tackles, scared to death of their fullback & when he did have a chance to run at their defence seemed over anxious to part with the ball. Hardly inspiring.
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« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2016, 18:29:02 pm »

i'm not sure why everybody is so scared of Swansea for, if he's not up to it then whose fault is that?
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« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2016, 10:10:05 am »

i'm not sure why everybody is so scared of Swansea for, if he's not up to it then whose fault is that?

.........people who voted Brexit?
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« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2016, 10:54:56 am »

If moloney is 2nd choice full back behind Phillips, could he be used further forward, decent pace, good link up play, can deliver a cross and one day is going to lash one in from 35yrds. Still time to bring in a couple so not too unhappy with things as they stand, hanley and jak mc to chuck in the equation too.

I'd do it the other way round. Moloney back at RB when fit, Phillips right midfield - he can clearly cross a decent ball and lessens the concern about his defensive abilities.
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« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2016, 11:16:22 am »

On the evidence so far, Gorre is not up to it. I shudder to think we'd be selecting him ONLY to please his parent club, that's be dreadful. If that's the reason, Page needs to man up and not play him. If however he sees something in him that the rest of us don't, then we need to see it pretty soon!
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« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2016, 11:28:41 am »

Gorre is poor at the moment. You can see he's technically good but once he gets the ball at his feet he seems at a loss with what to do with it, usually resulting in him running into a defender. I guess a lot of it is due to a lack of experience, but he should by now be better than he is. There were a few times on Saturday where he got the ball in good areas, with options to either side, and just dithered until he lost the ball. I genuinely couldn't tell if he a) hadn't seen the options b) had seen them but couldn't make up his mind or c) was being greedy and waiting to get an opportunity for himself. Either way, he managed to completely snuff out our attacking impetus by eventually doing nothing!
For me, you could be describing Hoskins with the above. If you were in the north for the opening game against Fleetwood there was a perfect example of Hoskins inside the box with the ball at his feet but not having a clue what to do with it. He ended up tamely giving it to their left back.
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« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2016, 11:34:37 am »

If moloney is 2nd choice full back behind Phillips, could he be used further forward, decent pace, good link up play, can deliver a cross and one day is going to lash one in from 35yrds. Still time to bring in a couple so not too unhappy with things as they stand, hanley and jak mc to chuck in the equation too.
I thought Phillips looked quite good going forward too. More wing back than fullback. Him and Beautyman looked like they were beginning to get an understanding of each others play at Charlton, although I haven't seen anything yet from Beautyman that D'ath isn't capable of.
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« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2016, 12:15:32 pm »

i'm not sure why everybody is so scared of Swansea for, if he's not up to it then whose fault is that?

You're forgetting Page has been tracking this lad for over two years! All a tad embarrassing...  Roll Eyes
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