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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2016, 18:20:19 pm »

Well maybe if televised - would they like to pay me the cost of a wasted travel there !!!
I hope we thrash them next time - joke club
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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2016, 21:07:27 pm »

Told you, tinpot northern tw@ts
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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2016, 21:09:29 pm »

Tin pot southerners 🙂
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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2016, 21:18:19 pm »

No frost up north.  All our games were on today.
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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2016, 21:38:23 pm »

Game rescheduled, midweek on TV, more money for Stourbridge. I wonder ..........?

If on TV would probably be the Wed or the Thursday of that week. Personally hope it is not televised
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« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2016, 21:48:27 pm »

Are their floodlights up to TV standard?
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« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2016, 00:02:59 am »

Are they allowed to show another 2nd round match, doesn't it have to be a replay?
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« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2016, 06:16:36 am »

Yep, absolute joke. They have a lot to answer for, no warnings of any pitch inspection either. Complete disgrace.

Maybe they didnt know there would be a pitch inspection and expected the game to be played.

For covers they dont have any (they said so in a news report) so would have had to hire some at their cost. The forecast was for it to be above zero (5) so they would have gambled on it. If it was a TV game they would have had more money so probably would have hired covers!
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« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2016, 08:27:06 am »

Are they allowed to show another 2nd round match, doesn't it have to be a replay?

What occurred to me yesterday was that the 2nd round replays cost the TV companies a lot less than the first games. So regardless of whether you are right or not, I suspect they will televise a replay, especially as it will definitely bring a result on the night as well as it costing them less to show!

On reflection, I think Stourbridge tried to wing it yesterday (by saying nothing in the morning).

Thats the only reason why I was annoyed. I've seen on Twitter plenty of people trying to defend them, but none of them appeared to have dragged them selves up there and killed off an entire Sunday. I even checked on the internet before leaving at 11am, as we know there was nothing. Indeed they were retweeting their fans tweets, hyping the game up etc. W@nkers!

The least they that should do is pay for our fans travel up there and NTFC's expenses. There should be a 'code of conduct' in place that all Clubs have to follow, communication is absolute basic stuff. They would have done the same no doubt if they were playing a team 300 miles away.
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« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2016, 08:29:27 am »

Do we think the game will stay for Tuesday next week?

Was kind of hoping for a move to Wednesday.  Smiley
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« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2016, 08:51:32 am »


  Ve have vey's to avoid a banana skin !!!
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« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2016, 09:37:34 am »

A bit of a shame not getting to watch us play yesterday.

I arrived in Stourbridge just after midday and there was a nice atmosphere building around to the town centre until the news filtered through.

I think the consensus was the game would've gone ahead if it was a normal league game but the ref didn't give it a chance... hence the lack of warning about postponement. I think both teams wanted the game on as it don't think a rearranged game was in anyone's interest.

I hope to make the rearranged match and hopefully i can get my hands on one of those half and half Stourbridge / Northampton scarfs next time.



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« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2016, 21:01:42 pm »

Just for info, BT Sport will show two replays but they will be the week after our rescheduled game. So no TV coverage of the Stourbridge game.

Tues 20th Peterborough v Notts County for the right to play Chelsea at Stamford Bridge
Weds 21st Newport County v Plymouth for the right to play Liverpool at Anfield
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« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2016, 19:56:47 pm »

Just for info, BT Sport will show two replays but they will be the week after our rescheduled game. So no TV coverage of the Stourbridge game.

Tues 20th Peterborough v Notts County for the right to play Chelsea at Stamford Bridge
Weds 21st Newport County v Plymouth for the right to play Liverpool at Anfield

Yep, the reason no games are being covered next week is because Premier league games are taking place, with BT showing games on both Tuesday & Wednesday night. 
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« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2016, 13:42:59 pm »

Well, I thought I'd let the dust settle a little before I chucked my two penn'orth in, but for what it's worth here goes...

Frost covers

In my view we should have hired some in. We don't have our own (and nor do the cricket club - why would they?), but given the money made from the game and the Cup run as a whole this season, the expense would have been minimal.

You can probably tell from the pics, but a section of the pitch is in permanent shadow during the winter. Even on a sunny day like Sunday when the rest of the pitch is perfect it always lags well behind in thawing out. The overnight temp was forecast everywhere I saw to go no lower than +2C, in which case I'm as certain as I can be that we'd have been fine. However, forecasts can be wrong (as we saw) and it would have been an expense worth "wasting".

Would covers have ensured the game went ahead? We'll never know, but I doubt it. The temp was reportedly -5C overnight, and the pitch was (in my experienced view, after 40+ years as a supporter) unlikely to recover in time.

However, if +2 would have been fine, and -5 was never going to be ok (as I say, just my belief) there must be borderline territory somewhere in between where covers would have made a difference. For that reason alone, we should have used them.

Winging it...

No. There was never a chance that the re-arranged game was going to be televised. We had too much to lose to save a few bob relatively speaking. I think we just relied on the forecast being our "friend".

Early inspection

For a run-of-the-mill League game, or an early rounds Cup tie, we would normally call in a local qualified ref to make an inspection if necessary early in the morning, with the power to call the game off. Of course, if he decided it was ok (or worth giving a chance) the match ref would still have the final say nearer kick-off. I'm told this was not within our remit on Sunday, presumably due to FA Cup "Proper" rules (as opposed to Qual Rounds), or possibly because of the game being part of the TV coverage.

Communication

Cards on the table (because I'm happy to take the flak) - I run the club's twitter account.

I was up early on Sunday, having to ferry my daughter to Malvern for cricket training. When I drew the curtains at 7.30 my first thought was we might be in trouble - as I say, 40 years of experience. So I texted my contact at the Club to let him know I'd be waiting for any relevant news and that I'd be driving between 8-9 and 11-12 and, being a good, law-abiding citizen, wouldn't be able to deal with anything. So I arranged a back-up to deal with anything during those times. I also put out a tweet (as I would always do if any doubt at all) saying if there was any news of an inspection we'd let people know.

Between 10 and 11 I asked twice by text if there was any news but only got slightly ambiguous replies that didn't tell me anything concrete I could put out on twitter. Had I not had my mind on other things I should have pushed harder for something to announce. As it was I assumed someone would have the good sense to advise me if there was anything to tell.

Driving in to Stour at about 12 I remember thinking to myself, "Well, we've said nothing all morning, so if it's off now we're going to look a right bunch of twonks".

By the time I got to my parents house to park the car and walk down to the ground I thought perhaps I'd been over-dramatic first thing, as I hadn't heard anything, until checking through incoming tweets I found the BBC announcing the game was off. Still not having heard from the club I checked twitter until I was certain enough this was correct and then tweeted it myself, by which time, of course, I was getting "all sorts"!

I left it at that for the rest of the day - I know many people have lambasted us (me) for the silence, but the honest answer is I was steaming. I would have ended up saying something I regretted to somebody, or quite possibly about my own club.

(Thanks, by the way, for all the tweets on Sunday and through the week - some have been plain stupid, some have made me laugh - especially the lunatic conspiracy theories - but most have been absolutely spot on)

Communication on Sunday was a shambles. Had it been a bog-standard League game against Corby or Barwell it would still have been a shambles but, frankly, it would have been forgotten within 24 hours. To **** it up on the big day was ridiculous. Had I been able to be at the ground it wouldn't have happened because I'd have had my own eyes to tell me what was happening. Had I pushed harder for concrete info, likewise. Have to take my share of the blame for that.

I emailed the Chairman about it on Sunday evening and said that a proper apology was needed. He didn't see the need, and again I haven't pushed it. In fairness to him, he spent most of the day, and into the evening, with sponsors - as any chairman would do an a big day like this, and I doubt at that point he had the full picture of what had gone on. I suspect he thought it was literally "just a few whingers like you always get". I suspect also that the same innocent ignorance applies to his "jovial" TV and radio interviews - he just wouldn't have been close enough to what was actually going on to know all the details at that immediate point in time.

I haven't discussed it with him since (still too steamed up most of this week!) but will do at some point. The time for a proper statement has probably been and gone though.

Just thought some form of explanation and apology was needed somewhere along the line.

PS. The forecast for Monday/Tuesday is significantly milder!  Cheesy
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« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2016, 14:31:29 pm »

It was evident that the twitter account was ran by a fan/volunteer. My Wife does social media for a living, I am extremely aware of the score in that regard. I think your tweet saying 'in a professional capacity' or something similar gave that away!  Grin

Your chairman needs a course in PR. He clearly is totally detached from the real world. Which at your level is even more sad in a way. (respectfully meant). That said, no body died, no body got hurt etc.

I stand by what I said. Every club should sign up to a communication code of conduct. The irony on this occasion is that I and most likely the rest of us would have still gone even if the game had officially been made a doubt early doors, BUT the bad taste wouldn't have been there.

People like your goodself shouldn't be expected to take the flak. Anyway, thanks for coming on here and giving a detailed response in an unofficial capacity, its appreciated. Enjoy the game Tuesday, Im dragging myself up there again and my motivation to see us win has gone up about 10 fold!  Wink

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« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2016, 14:57:39 pm »

Find it hard to believe the amount of stick some supporters are giving a non-league club for having a game postponed.
It happens at short notice to nearly all teams at some point. I've been to Sixfields only for the game to be called off as I've arrived, that was against a team who's supporters had to travel a lot further than a hour up the road.
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« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2016, 16:05:27 pm »

Surely they could have just asked to borrow our covers for the night?
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« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2016, 16:49:16 pm »

Well, I thought I'd let the dust settle a little before I chucked my two penn'orth in, but for what it's worth here goes...

Frost covers

In my view we should have hired some in. We don't have our own (and nor do the cricket club - why would they?), but given the money made from the game and the Cup run as a whole this season, the expense would have been minimal.

You can probably tell from the pics, but a section of the pitch is in permanent shadow during the winter. Even on a sunny day like Sunday when the rest of the pitch is perfect it always lags well behind in thawing out. The overnight temp was forecast everywhere I saw to go no lower than +2C, in which case I'm as certain as I can be that we'd have been fine. However, forecasts can be wrong (as we saw) and it would have been an expense worth "wasting".

Would covers have ensured the game went ahead? We'll never know, but I doubt it. The temp was reportedly -5C overnight, and the pitch was (in my experienced view, after 40+ years as a supporter) unlikely to recover in time.

However, if +2 would have been fine, and -5 was never going to be ok (as I say, just my belief) there must be borderline territory somewhere in between where covers would have made a difference. For that reason alone, we should have used them.


Thanks for this TRM - what I could not quite grasp is that knowing that a portion of your pitch becomes dodgy in cold weather that Stourbridge FC failed to take even reasonable precautions let alone a pitch inspection. Cancelling at such a late hour was not in anybodies interest. As the Marquis suggests you could have borrowed ours. These covers are useful for both frost and rain protection!
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« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2016, 18:20:18 pm »

Agree with the borrowing our covers, surely in everyone's interest to get the game played. We'd literally just got a drink in Stourbridge town centre when it was called off, disgraceful from the chairman up there.
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