Should he stay or should he go?

[BackOfTheNet]

I'm not usually one for starting these but I'm intrigued. Cobbler78 says the naysayers are in the minority. Are we? No ifs, buts or maybes; yes or no - should we make a change?

[Another Pedj]

Has to go.

[Cobbler78]

Stay for me, 13th in L1 is very good for NTFC

[corno_ntfc]

Not yet.  But unwillingness to make changes (personnel or tactics) during a game becoming concerning

[memyhead]

Want him to walk but he won't and KT will not sack him...yet!

He is the most boring & totally reactive manager I can ever remember us having...

I do not trust him whatsoever with any funds made available for the Jan window.

Not many managers get the opportunity to take over a title winning side that needs little surgery and even has the WHOLE summer to tweak the squad, yet he has destroyed/is destroying everything CW built. Should have spent the compo on getting in Neil Ardley...

[Ormen]

Stay. His remit this season is stay in L1 , not win the FA cup. Some though games coming up but so is the January transfer window.

[Tom]

Stay for me, 13th in L1 is very good for NTFC

League table is not a good or sensible way to look at things, look at our form - it's terrible. Our position is propped up by a (very lucky - if you ask anyone who was at games) good run early at the season.

[guest2487]

I don't trust him in the transfer window.

[Cobbler78]

League table is not a good or sensible way to look at things, look at our form - it's terrible. Our position is propped up by a (very lucky - if you ask anyone who was at games) good run early at the season.

And a very unlucky run in the four games we lost in a row. If you don't judge a team on the league table , what do you judge it on? What we need is some sort of points system to work out where a team should be..........wait a minute........

[Tom]

And a very unlucky run in the four games we lost in a row. If you don't judge a team on the league table , what do you judge it on? What we need is some sort of points system to work out where a team should be..........wait a minute........

Unlucky? were you at the games? because we've been terrible. If we continue this form we'll be relegated, I'm sure you'll take a lot of comfort in the fact at the end of the year that we were mid table at this point and playing terribly?

You're snarky comment would be perfectly fair, if this was the end point in the season. Our position would be great if that was where we were heading, but we are not.

[606 Parklands_Cobbler]

Stay for me, 13th in L1 is very good for NTFC

As has been said in multiple posts, YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT. Everybody would be happy with this in different circumstances. The lies, man management, 15-16 mean PAGE HAS TO GO

(This is coming from a guy who didn't even want Boothroyd or Johnson to go at the times they did, which in hindsight was absolutely ridiculous on my behalf)

[sxcobbler]

Give it till the end of the year and see where we are....but with the difficulty of those games and the ones coming up after......I think he is hardly the right man to be trusted with the funds needed to keep us in this league.

What has he done to this all-conquering side.

[Ormen]

I don't trust him in the transfer window.

Good job he won't be spending your money then   Think of the positive side of the window, we might get rid of a few  

[Cobbler78]

Unlucky? were you at the games? because we've been terrible. If we continue this form we'll be relegated, I'm sure you'll take a lot of comfort in the fact at the end of the year that we were mid table at this point and playing terribly?

Yep, only game I missed was Bradford. Could have won all 3 of the others with a bit of luck. All things being equal a win a draw and a lose from the 3 I saw would probably be fair, and would put us in 8th

[Tom]

Yep, only game I missed was Bradford. Could have won all 3 of the others with a bit of luck. All things being equal a win a draw and a lose from the 3 I saw would probably be fair, and would put us in 8th

10 points out of the last 33 available points. I don't need to say anything else, less than a point a game if you think we're sitting pretty at 14th and everything is ok, you need to up your meds.

[alstare]

I would be happy to see RP resign.  Appears to have lost some of the players and it may need wholesale changes to put this right.  Might just be easier to change the manager.

[tcobb]

Wasn't impressed when he was first appointed.
Even less so as time has worn on. Most of his signings are baffling to say the least, his choice of his assistant was just as puzzling. Tactics in games have confused supporters and players alike.

Then to play a team 89 places lower without even having a shot on goal, when going a goal down what did he do? Bring on substitutes straight away and go for goal ? No, he did nothing.
He really is Clueless, he needs to go taking his cronies  and awful signings with him.

[Ormen]

 his choice of his assistant was just as puzzling.

I am with you here and would also add some of the other coaching staff. Wilder had a very good sidekick in Alan Knill who I feel didn't get the full amount of credit he deserved for his time at our club.

[guest1269]

10 points out of the last 33 available points. I don't need to say anything else, less than a point a game if you think we're sitting pretty at 14th and everything is ok, you need to up your meds.

Actually you do need to say something else, because unfortunately like most one dimensional internet chat you are exercising you simplistic right to selectively use only the facts that suit your argument.

How about a Chris Wilder run of 6 points from an available 33 points - you and your short term views would have certainly had him sacked on that form - and how correct would that have been? 

So I'm not going to up my meds but you should possibly grow up and match expectation with reality - I'm not blind & certainly not over impressed with a lot of things on the pitch this season - we were certainly s***e at both Bradford & Peterborough but only an idiot would say we were not unlucky not to get something against Bolton or Peterborough at home -  overall I think we a good enough to stay up and frankly that's enough for our first season in L1

[Tom]

Actually you do need to say something else, because unfortunately like most one dimensional internet chat you are exercising you simplistic right to selectively use only the facts that suit your argument.

How about a Chris Wilder run of 6 points from an available 33 points - you and your short term views would have certainly had him sacked on that form - and how correct would that have been? 

So I'm not going to up my meds but you should possibly grow up and match expectation with reality - I'm not blind & certainly not over impressed with a lot of things on the pitch this season - we were certainly s***e at both Bradford & Peterborough but only an idiot would say we were not unlucky not to get something against Bolton or Peterborough at home -  overall I think we a good enough to stay up and frankly that's enough for our first season in L1

Page is no Wilder, Wilder never looked anywhere near as utterly incompetent as page does. We've played worse in the majority of recent games than most people will be able to remember playing for a long long time. Time will tell who's right, but I can tell you it won't be you.