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« Reply #120 on: March 28, 2017, 19:49:56 pm »

Yea, probably competing about as well as we were in the first half of the season. 

Pretty much this, like for like results haven't changed, JED was lucky to join before a run of much easier games.
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« Reply #121 on: March 28, 2017, 19:58:26 pm »

Bury 1 down
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« Reply #122 on: March 28, 2017, 20:13:22 pm »

I appreciate this is the relegation watch thread but I would prefer Oxelana to lose as we are much more likely to overhaul them as to be caught by Bury
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« Reply #123 on: March 28, 2017, 20:55:25 pm »

Pretty much this, like for like results haven't changed, JED was lucky to join before a run of much easier games.

You still chirping???

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« Reply #124 on: March 28, 2017, 21:05:50 pm »

Bury 1 down
Now 4-0 down, how good does that make us, stopping Oxelona from scoring  Smiley
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« Reply #125 on: March 28, 2017, 21:09:29 pm »

Three goals in 5 minutes for AFC Dons against Rochdale who have had Keane sent off, so he'll be out for Saturday.
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« Reply #126 on: March 28, 2017, 21:15:01 pm »

You still chirping???

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Yep, I just love proving people like you wrong.
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« Reply #127 on: March 28, 2017, 21:20:59 pm »

Yea, probably competing about as well as we were in the first half of the season. 

JED...been here 13 games.....record is Won 6, Drawn 2, Lost 5, scored 21  conceded 20

PAGE..first 13 games this season record was Won 4, Drawn 6, Lost 3,  scored 20  conceded 16

PAGE..last 13 games of his tenure was Won 4, Drawn 0, Lost 9, scored 14 conceded 26

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« Reply #128 on: March 28, 2017, 21:24:25 pm »

Keane sent off for Rochdale, so suspended for when we play them at the weekend, 3 other players on bookings an playing with 10 men for 45 mins 4 days before our visit. Nice!
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« Reply #129 on: March 28, 2017, 21:25:12 pm »

Yea, probably competing about as well as we were in the first half of the season. 

Some people are capable of differentiating between results and performances.  We are also capable of differentiating between how opponents and the threat they pose can differ with months in between.  We are also capable of seeing a marked improvement in our own side and our approach to matches.

Other than the initial couple of settling in matches we've been competitive i.e. A good match for our opponents in all subsequent games under JED whether that be top middle or bottom of the table irrespective of the final result.  If you think that was the case for the whole of the first half of the season I'm guessing you fell into a coma around November time.
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« Reply #130 on: March 28, 2017, 21:34:01 pm »

Some people are capable of differentiating between results and performances.  We are also capable of differentiating between how opponents and the threat they pose can differ with months in between.  We are also capable of seeing a marked improvement in our own side and our approach to matches.

Other than the initial couple of settling in matches we've been competitive i.e. A good match for our opponents in all subsequent games under JED whether that be top middle or bottom of the table irrespective of the final result.  If you think that was the case for the whole of the first half of the season I'm guessing you fell into a coma around November time.

Very good post, a few others could do a lot worse than look to you for advice on how to explain this point of view.............even if like for like results have not improved 😉
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« Reply #131 on: March 28, 2017, 21:40:26 pm »

[quote  Grin=Cobbler78 link=topic=15982.msg315652#msg315652 date=1490732101]
Yep, I just love proving people like you wrong.
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Yeah love it when a theory works!!

Did you forget to till Bristol rovers the plan on Saturday as they played there easiest game of the season against Coventry? What about millwall at Swindon??? Even Rochdale tonight?Huh?

But I do love I when someone gets things right!!!

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« Reply #132 on: March 28, 2017, 21:51:12 pm »

I appreciate this is the relegation watch thread but I would prefer Oxelana to lose as we are much more likely to overhaul them as to be caught by Bury
I would just prefer Oxelona to lose...full stop!  Grin
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« Reply #133 on: March 28, 2017, 21:51:23 pm »

Very good post, a few others could do a lot worse than look to you for advice on how to explain this point of view.............even if like for like results have not improved 😉

Think we've had this discussion before.  Don't really give much importance to like for like results and don't see why anyone should...other than in a rather vain attempt to prove a point  Wink There's a massive difference between playing home or away.  A lot of teams are completely different prospects with months in between fixtures.  Also suspensions and injuries make a big difference not to mention the Cobblers have a completely different manager and play a totally different style.
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« Reply #134 on: March 28, 2017, 21:54:28 pm »

Yeah love it when a theory works!!

Did you forget to till Bristol rovers the plan on Saturday as they played there easiest game of the season against Coventry? What about millwall at Swindon??? Even Rochdale tonight?Huh?

But I do love I when someone gets things right!!!

 Grin Grin Grin

I support Northampton, so I'm looking at our results, there will always be the odd anomaly but the overall trend is very consistent.

Ps It's "their", Millwall and Rovers have capital letters.
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« Reply #135 on: March 28, 2017, 21:57:19 pm »

Think we've had this discussion before.  Don't really give much importance to like for like results and don't see why anyone should...other than in a rather vain attempt to prove a point  Wink There's a massive difference between playing home or away.  A lot of teams are completely different prospects with months in between fixtures.  Also suspensions and injuries make a big difference not to mention the Cobblers have a completely different manager and play a totally different style.

Again, hard to argue with the points you make, but still, our points per game haven't improved based on the skewed strength of teams we have played.
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« Reply #136 on: March 28, 2017, 22:08:02 pm »

Yep, I just love proving people like you wrong.
Like you did for the Oldham game when we lost at home?
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« Reply #137 on: March 28, 2017, 22:12:32 pm »

Like you did for the Oldham game when we lost at home?

Jesus, you won't win or lose every match, but there is a definite overall trend. Surely you can see that?
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« Reply #138 on: March 28, 2017, 22:16:58 pm »

Surely you can see that?
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« Reply #139 on: March 29, 2017, 14:57:08 pm »

Again, hard to argue with the points you make, but still, our points per game haven't improved based on the skewed strength of teams we have played.
Exactly. Under Page there were many performances and results that I'm sure would not have been bettered by the current stewardship. E.g Walsall (H), Southend (H), Swindon (A), Sc***horpe (A), Oxford (A), Sheff Utd (A), Shrewsbury (A) and a few others. We had a few poor performances, like Posh, Bristol Rovers, Milwall etc but then again we've had a few poor ones under JDE like Oldham and Fleetwood and who have we beaten since Page left that we wouldn't have expected to? Results have, by and large, consistently ALL season depended on the quality of the opposition.
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