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« Reply #160 on: March 30, 2017, 09:05:31 am »

I have been watching NTFC since before they had floodlights at the County Ground. Just my personal opinion but I would say Page was amongst the poorest Managers we have ever had.
I have been reading this board for a number of years although without posting much. Just my personal opinion but I would say Cobbler78 is right up there with the most irritating posters ever.
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« Reply #161 on: March 30, 2017, 10:18:08 am »

I have been watching NTFC since before they had floodlights at the County Ground. Just my personal opinion but I would say Page was amongst the poorest Managers we have ever had.
I have been reading this board for a number of years although without posting much. Just my personal opinion but I would say Cobbler78 is right up there with the most irritating posters ever.

Because......?
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« Reply #162 on: March 30, 2017, 10:35:52 am »

I fail to see how anyone can defend Page at all .
We had a modicum of success early in the season , despite not playing that well when the opposition hadn't worked out our one dimensional tactics of hitting Revell at every opportunity .
They soon worked out how slow and powder puff we were in midfield and that the team couldn't last 70 minutes .
Anyone that supports Page fails to appreciate the dressing room was in turmoil and very few players supported him or his staff . They were unprofessional and unorganised in their approach .
There is no doubt we would have been relegated under that clown and maybe even bottom of the league . It was an embarrassment at the end .
That's before you start to talk about his signings / treatment of players / no connection with supporters / tactics / substitutions / fitness levels / bung he took from Barry Fry to put out an embarrassment of a team selection at Borough etc etc
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« Reply #163 on: March 30, 2017, 10:42:22 am »

We beat Southend at home because their keeper basically threw two in for us and they had an unfortunate red card for the penalty at 2-0.
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« Reply #164 on: March 30, 2017, 10:44:25 am »

We were 5th, are we the 5th best team in the league?
I'm hoping that you appreciate the fact you have tied yourself in a knot here.

You're saying that because Southend are now high up the league it was a great result to beat them when second bottom but have insisted elsewhere that the teams at the bottom are 'easy' games and those above us are 'harder' games. By your own logic, the day we beat Southend was an 'easy' game!

With regards to someone saying that Sheff Utd away was a good performance. That was the game I decided enough was enough. I have no issue with parking the bus against teams like that at ground like that but you need an out which we didnt have towards the end. Poor selection, lack of fitness and a team not knowing their roles was clear
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« Reply #165 on: March 30, 2017, 10:54:41 am »

Because.......?
I have no problem with making a point or an opinion which differs from mine, it's your relentless and monotonous quest to prove yourself right.
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« Reply #166 on: March 30, 2017, 11:34:11 am »

Because.......?
I have no problem with making a point or an opinion which differs from mine, it's your relentless and monotonous quest to prove yourself right.

Unfortunately, it still needs explaning to some.
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« Reply #167 on: March 30, 2017, 11:58:56 am »

I'd say that's a damning indictment of the chairman that went all out to secure him Shocked

Whilst not quite agreeing with that it was clearly a major error of judgement.
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« Reply #168 on: March 30, 2017, 13:00:00 pm »

Im visualising Cobbler78 sat in the sun, decked out in all of the latest fisherman clothing and surrounded by big nets 
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« Reply #169 on: March 30, 2017, 13:07:31 pm »

Im visualising Cobbler78 sat in the sun, decked out in all of the latest fisherman clothing and surrounded by big nets 

Quite a few "whoppers" lurking.
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« Reply #170 on: March 30, 2017, 15:06:09 pm »

Because.......?
I have no problem with making a point or an opinion which differs from mine, it's your relentless and monotonous quest to prove yourself right.
Good point Knocker..its like having an annoying wasp in the car. You open the window but it doesn't fly out.
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For goodness sake Doc we are NOT going down  Grin   you heard it here 1st  Wink

(I damn well hope that does not come back to haunt me)
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« Reply #171 on: March 30, 2017, 16:36:51 pm »

We didn't play well v Southend (h) and Sheff Utd (a). Oxford (a) was fine but they were toothless up front and we nicked a win with a late set piece, rather than beating them with a great performance.
Bit like Swindon, Charlton,  AFC etc recently. Nice that a 4-0 against a play off team can be achieved without playing well. Would take that now.
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« Reply #172 on: March 30, 2017, 16:38:21 pm »

Quite a few "whoppers" lurking.

Say something stupid, be called out on it, immediately claim you were fishing. Good tactic.
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« Reply #173 on: March 30, 2017, 16:41:24 pm »

Personal opinion is that anyone who truly believes RP is a manager equal to JE then they're ridiculously stupid.
OK, I'll take that. Let's see in 5 years whether JE is managing Man. U and Page has disappeared.
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« Reply #174 on: March 30, 2017, 16:51:16 pm »

The only reason I keep chipping in on this topic is because a) Cobbler78 makes some valid points but he just keeps getting knocked back by unsubstantiated comments, and b) because we have employed 2 managers this season who are where they are, managing 3rd tier teams, one is not an idiot who deliberately tried to screw our club, and the other is not a messiah.

ALSO, even though everyone keeps harping on about how bored they are with this topic, everyone keeps rising to the bait.
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« Reply #175 on: March 30, 2017, 18:00:50 pm »

The only reason I keep chipping in on this topic is because a) Cobbler78 makes some valid points but he just keeps getting knocked back by unsubstantiated comments, and b) because we have employed 2 managers this season who are where they are, managing 3rd tier teams, one is not an idiot who deliberately tried to screw our club, and the other is not a messiah.

ALSO, even though everyone keeps harping on about how bored they are with this topic, everyone keeps rising to the bait.

Thanks, glad a couple can see sense and refuse to be shouted down by the noisy negative type who only rise to the bait because they hate it to have been proved wrong.
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« Reply #176 on: March 30, 2017, 22:00:53 pm »

The only reason I keep chipping in on this topic is because a) Cobbler78 makes some valid points but he just keeps getting knocked back by unsubstantiated comments, and b) because we have employed 2 managers this season who are where they are, managing 3rd tier teams, one is not an idiot who deliberately tried to screw our club, and the other is not a messiah.

ALSO, even though everyone keeps harping on about how bored they are with this topic, everyone keeps rising to the bait.

One last attempt then I'll leave you and Cobbler78 to it.  No one claims JED is the messiah.  Most if not all don't believe Page screwed it up deliberately.

But let's look past results, though I realise this is all you two are basing your opinions on.

Take a look back at the fixture list under Page.  I did earlier.  Honestly hand on heart think about how many games we played well in and actually matched our opponents.  I reckon there was about 5 and that's being generous.  The rest we were negative, dour and dull.  That was also against a mixture of teams top, middle and bottom for the record.  Remember we are talking about performances not just results.  Add to that all you have heard in interviews since about what trainng was like and what the players felt.

Then compare it to JED.  Pretty much every game post MK Dons we have been better than if not equal to our opponents.  Even the ones you listed earlier we could have been 3 up at half time against Fleetwood....who by the way were in an unbelievable run of form at the time.  Even Oldham though admittedly not great we lost to last minute winner.

This is what people have been trying to say to you guys over the last couple of months with no joy.  Think how ridiculous it is to say that results under a new manager prove the previous manager would have done equally as well.  Maybe Page would have turned it round....maybe he wouldn't have.  We will never know.  Therefore any points scoring or proving of points is just plain daft because nobody can ever or will ever prove they are right.

What people can say with certainty is that we were under a terrible run of form under Page both results and performance wise when he got sacked.  when you look back over his tenure as a whole you see a team that was generally so concerned with not losing it forgot about trying to win.  Things aren't perfect under JED but they are better and you'd be a fool not to see that.  Of course if your opinion is purely based on results only then.....here we go again.

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« Reply #177 on: March 30, 2017, 22:59:49 pm »

I think the above post says it all and should be the final post in the Page v Edinburgh argument . This for you Cobblers 78 and Saint Cobbler.
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« Reply #178 on: March 31, 2017, 04:37:52 am »

I cannot believe this forum at times.  There is so much negativity for a small football club who are competing in a very good league with lots of big football clubs.

We would have been relegated by now under Page.  We were mentally weak, very predictable and boring.  Long balls to a lone striker, 11 men in our box at an opposition corner.  Conceding last minute goals due to unfit players and crap training sessions. No thank you.

Going into the last third of the season you are playing against teams scrapping for survival or fighting for promotion.  No way were we set up to play against those teams.

JED is much better ln interviews and has raised the confidence levels of the squad.

Well done to Kelvin for making the right move at the right time.  Those who understand the game knew Page could not continue.

Page was boring and unfortunately this thread is going the same way

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« Reply #179 on: March 31, 2017, 05:10:50 am »

One last attempt then I'll leave you and Cobbler78 to it.  No one claims JED is the messiah. 



JED is the messiah.
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