Starmer87
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« on: March 23, 2017, 01:51:48 am » |
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Can't believe nobody has mentioned what happened in London yesterday best wishes to everyone affected especially those not going home to their families
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#Frank
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2017, 10:18:27 am » |
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Can we also talk about the 33 dead innocent civilian people in a Syrian school in al-Mansoura bombed by the Americans led force a day before? I am not condoning what the individual driven to hate did yesterday in London but no mention of the Syrian bombing reached our main media outlets other than The Independent and The Guardian . Why?
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Starmer87
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2017, 17:41:52 pm » |
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Thoughts go out to victims and their loved ones in sickly Manchester attack yesterday evening R.I.P
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andycobbler
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2017, 18:18:33 pm » |
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Thoughts go out to victims and their loved ones in sickly Manchester attack yesterday evening R.I.P
+1. Lets not forget these are not religious terrorists, they are the scum of the earth who deserve tor rot in hell.
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if you hate peterborough clap your hands and Fxxk off poxford.
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Starmer87
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2017, 19:02:18 pm » |
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+1. Lets not forget these are not religious terrorists, they are the scum of the earth who deserve tor rot in hell.
they are not scum because unfortunately scum rises to the top. They are the lowest form of cowardly animals possible to describe
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606 Parklands_Cobbler
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2017, 19:50:12 pm » |
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I've seen this said alot, I'm not really sure cowardly is the right term to describe it. Going into a situation knowing that you are about to blow yourself up into tiny pieces is anything but cowardly. The media/politicians are not really helping these situations at all-24 coverage, terms like 'solidarity, 'what unites us' are being constantly batted around and have lost all meaning. 'They will not win' etc ...Well they are winning. Their names are going down as martyrs amongst their people. Social media spectulation etc
The only news/journalism reported should be on the lives lost, with as little intrusion into their personal lifes and families as possible. A small section on what happened and no 'eyewittness' (most of which are not) accounts on tv.
I'm not sure what can be changed, but something needs to. We can only be thankfull to MI5/GCHQ etc that this is very limited.
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Starmer87
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2017, 21:17:45 pm » |
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I've seen this said alot, I'm not really sure cowardly is the right term to describe it. Going into a situation knowing that you are about to blow yourself up into tiny pieces is anything but cowardly. The media/politicians are not really helping these situations at all-24 coverage, terms like 'solidarity, 'what unites us' are being constantly batted around and have lost all meaning. 'They will not win' etc ...Well they are winning. Their names are going down as martyrs amongst their people. Social media spectulation etc
The only news/journalism reported should be on the lives lost, with as little intrusion into their personal lifes and families as possible. A small section on what happened and no 'eyewittness' (most of which are not) accounts on tv.
I'm not sure what can be changed, but something needs to. We can only be thankfull to MI5/GCHQ etc that this is very limited.
very well said hit the nail on the head I think
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Terryfenwickatemyhamster
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2017, 16:25:00 pm » |
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Can we also talk about the 33 dead innocent civilian people in a Syrian school in al-Mansoura
No.
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#Frank
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2017, 22:28:53 pm » |
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No.
That kind of short sighted attitude is a big part of the problem. When you grow up you will understand.
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Tabasco Kid
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Six fully armed Paras, guarding Charing Cross station this morning. Now theres something you dont see everyday.
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Were in the pipe 5 by 5.
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Terryfenwickatemyhamster
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That kind of short sighted attitude is a big part of the problem. When you grow up you will understand.
So not agreeing with you sanctions their behaviour... It's the sort attitude that you deserve. These people will attack because of race, religion, sexual persuassion, culture, gender, our laws, our education values, or any number of things that fail to fit into their ridiculously narrow perspective on what is acceptable. Your naive and simplistic assessment that it is down to bombing them, is no more than a myopic glance at the real issues at play here. And a total and utter simplification of the broader agenda.
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#Frank
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So not agreeing with you sanctions their behaviour... It's the sort attitude that you deserve. These people will attack because of race, religion, sexual persuassion, culture, gender, our laws, our education values, or any number of things that fail to fit into their ridiculously narrow perspective on what is acceptable. Your naive and simplistic assessment that it is down to bombing them, is no more than a myopic glance at the real issues at play here. And a total and utter simplification of the broader agenda. I am not sure why you think that the big grin smiles are appropriate here. I am not up for joking about this matter. You say "these people will attack" but why have we attacked? Why do we think that their lives matter less than ours? How many "people" from the 209.1 million Islamic Indonesian population have come here to attack us? We haven't bombed them yet though have we! Mr Corbyn is absolutely spot on with his view on this. I agree with him entirely. Is he also naive having spend many years in the thick of it? If you expect to get away scott free after throwing your weight around in the manner that Britain (and others) has it's you that is the naive. We need to reel our neck in and minimise the sadly inevitable continued atrocities by way of retaliation against us. Yes, the individuals committing the attacks are warped but they weren't born that way. We should also stop funding the completely redundant nuclear deterrent and spend the money on something that will save lives like police and soldiers stationed in our own country. Nuclear weapons won't save you if you happen to be in near one of "these people" when they do attack. A policeman investigating a possible radicalised subject might. I would also like to say that I agree with 606 Parklands_Cobbler on his views above.
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Terryfenwickatemyhamster
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Why do we think that their lives matter less than ours?
I don't know why you feel like that. I don't. Perhaps you should address that first. As for the smilies.... They were a response to your sanctimonious attitude.
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#Frank
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I don't know why you feel like that. I don't. Perhaps you should address that first. As for the smilies.... They were a response to your sanctimonious attitude. Yes YOU do. You proved that when you stated NO when I suggested discussing the 33 dead innocent civilian people in a Syrian school. How many more have died their since I mentioned it? That's right you don't know because you don't care and our media don't report it because they don't want you to care.18 people have just died in Afghanistan after a car bomb attack but will it be reported or even mentioned at all? It just might get a mention but you will have to dig through bulls*** about Trump to get at it. Did those people deserve to die? As for attitude it's you that has a concerning one and deep down you know what kind of attitude that is don't you? It's plain for everyone to see. I am not saying you are a bad person, I have probably never spoken to you in face to face but what you have typed here to me suggests that you like many people can only ever see things from one side. Them bad ...us good. Stay safe and enjoy the cup final.
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Tabasco Kid
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We should also stop funding the completely redundant nuclear deterrent and spend the money on something that will save lives like police and soldiers stationed in our own country. Nuclear weapons won't save you if you happen to be in near one of "these people" when they do attack.
Rogue states like North Korea, and Iran, prove that nuclear missiles are not redundant. A balance has to be maintained. Comrade Corbyn would not just scrap such a valuable asset such as Trident, he would be more likely to sell it. The only problem being, who would he sell it to? He is a dangerous liability, and has proven in the past, that he has an anti British bias. http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/night-jeremy-corbyn-stood-in-honour-of-dead-ira-terrorists-1-7008757
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Were in the pipe 5 by 5.
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Terryfenwickatemyhamster
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Yes YOU do. You proved that when you stated NO when I suggested discussing the 33 dead innocent civilian people in a Syrian school. How many more have died their since I mentioned it? That's right you don't know because you don't care and our media don't report it because they don't want you to care.18 people have just died in Afghanistan after a car bomb attack but will it be reported or even mentioned at all? It just might get a mention but you will have to dig through bulls*** about Trump to get at it. Did those people deserve to die?
As for attitude it's you that has a concerning one and deep down you know what kind of attitude that is don't you? It's plain for everyone to see. I am not saying you are a bad person, I have probably never spoken to you in face to face but what you have typed here to me suggests that you like many people can only ever see things from one side. Them bad ...us good. Stay safe and enjoy the cup final.
Like I said.. Sanctimonious. I haven't demonstrated any preference/prejudice or political affiliation on this thread. Everything you have written is a figment of your exceptionally fertile imagination and over sensitive disposition. The reason I said "no" was simple. I knew that rather than establishing facts, people would fire a volley of assumptions from the hip. You didn't disappoint. It is a measure of how little balance you hold, that you have automatically assumed that I condone the killing of anybody, without even an hint to suggest that is the case. Take your hands away from the keyboard and think before you pop your overly stressed cork again.
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#Frank
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Lets look at the facts. How many country's have North Korea and Iran attacked recently? What about us, how many attacks have we been involved in? Don't let the media tell you what to think! North Korea are out of range even if they did want to attack us and no proof that Iran is even capable has come to light. Right next ..Corbyn has denounced the IRA and Loyalist terrorist groups on more than one occasion. The Conservative party however have a serving councilor who was once an actual member of the IRA......Maria Gatland. https://tompride.wordpress.com/2017/05/21/former-active-ira-member-serving-as-tory-party-councillor/ They don't want you to know this though.
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#Frank
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Like I said.. Sanctimonious.
I haven't demonstrated any preference/prejudice or political affiliation on this thread. Everything you have written is a figment of your exceptionally fertile imagination and over sensitive disposition.
The reason I said "no" was simple. I knew that rather than establishing facts, people would fire a volley of assumptions from the hip. You didn't disappoint. It is a measure of how little balance you hold, that you have automatically assumed that I condone the killing of anybody, without even an hint to suggest that is the case.
Take your hands away from the keyboard and think before you pop your overly stressed cork again.
I would rather come over to you as sanctimonious than how you have to me. Every thing I have written is a figment of my imagination is it. Well did 33 people die in a school in Syria or did I imagine it? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/s-coalition-syria-air-strike-raqq-isis-school-killed-al-mansoura-human-rights-observatory-a7642781.htmlAt no point have I said you condoned any killings but I do say that you value a life here more than you do a life there and it's you stating that I hold no balance. By the way I am not stressed, why should I be? My direct family aren't lying in a morgue either here or there. I can only imagine that what that amount of stress could be like.
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Tabasco Kid
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Lets look at the facts. Right next ..Corbyn has denounced the IRA and Loyalist terrorist groups on more than one occasion.
Lets look at the facts... As you wish. My apologies for linking to The Sun, but there you go. /www.thesun.co.uk/news/3624310/jeremy-corbyn-is-the-worst-hypocrite-in-modern-uk-politics-he-poses-as-a-caring-man-of-peace-after-career-dominated-by-links-to-murderous-extremists/ Despite my link to a red top, the media does not tell me what to think. I have my own opinions. And you are not going to change them. Dont even bother. And if you are who I think you are, little dude, black biker jacket, Doc Marten boots, and used to drink at The Lupus. Yes or No?
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Were in the pipe 5 by 5.
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