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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2017, 15:55:58 pm »

Basing it on the fact we had two managers in League 1 last season,  neither of them rated McDonald good enough to command a starting place in a team that let in over 70 league goals.
 
He looked ok in League 2, but still struggled to be a first choice centre back.
 So that suggests he might just be good enough for League 2 rather than league 1.

I was just about to say the same thing - there's got to be more to this than meets the eye, one manager was an international captain at centre back and the other was a premiership  left back and obviously neither of them rated him enough to use him much.
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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2017, 15:56:48 pm »

Rod was a training ground sulk.  Let's hope his sulking sidekick is moved on soon too.
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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2017, 15:58:50 pm »

Rod was a training ground sulk.  Let's hope his sulking sidekick is moved on soon too.

Assume this is Hanley?
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« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2017, 15:59:31 pm »

Rod was a training ground sulk.  Let's hope his sulking sidekick is moved on soon too.

This is what I mean when I talk about managers seeing players day in day out, where most fans do. We simply have to trust their judgement on players whether we like it or not.

A manager is not going to ignore someone he thinks will help him win games
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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2017, 16:02:34 pm »

Rod was a training ground sulk.  Let's hope his sulking sidekick is moved on soon too.
all about man management isn't it.
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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2017, 16:06:37 pm »

This is what I mean when I talk about managers seeing players day in day out, where most fans do. We simply have to trust their judgement on players whether we like it or not.


Well, we'll have to agree to disagree there. Page's judgement was awful (as proven by the stats) and Edinburgh's doesn't seem to be much better so far.
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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2017, 16:12:35 pm »

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree there. Page's judgement was awful (as proven by the stats) and Edinburgh's doesn't seem to be much better so far.

Bloody hell how long has JE had?
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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2017, 16:13:36 pm »

Bloody hell how long has JE had?

Oh don't get me wrong, he has my full support. But there has been some dreadful stuff in there so far.
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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2017, 16:18:21 pm »

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree there. Page's judgement was awful (as proven by the stats) and Edinburgh's doesn't seem to be much better so far.

I think you have missed the point a little. We simply cannot prove that we would have done better last season had MacDonald played instead of Nyatanga, Byrom instead of Taylor and D'ath instead of P Anderson. The only way we will ever know if Page's judgement was flawed is if the players he ignored / froze out / moved on come back up to at least League One level and perform.

He was a poor manager, his recruitment was poor - we can objectively prove that with the stats. We can't do that with these players as they have no stats at that level to back that up, we're just guessing
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« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2017, 16:29:13 pm »

I think you have missed the point a little. We simply cannot prove that we would have done better last season had MacDonald played instead of Nyatanga, Byrom instead of Taylor and D'ath instead of P Anderson. The only way we will ever know if Page's judgement was flawed is if the players he ignored / froze out / moved on come back up to at least League One level and perform.

He was a poor manager, his recruitment was poor - we can objectively prove that with the stats. We can't do that with these players as they have no stats at that level to back that up, we're just guessing
Yeah. Just think the league 2 champions deserved the benefit of the doubt and a proper go at league 1 based on how well they did the year before. The other promoted clubs seemed to do well enough although not sure how much of a change in personnel they went through.
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« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2017, 16:39:52 pm »

Yeah. Just think the league 2 champions deserved the benefit of the doubt and a proper go at league 1 based on how well they did the year before. The other promoted clubs seemed to do well enough although not sure how much of a change in personnel they went through.

Completely agree with you, I would have loved to see them flourish in the league above but, for whatever reason, some were deemed not to be good enough - by two different managers in some cases.

Until they prove the decision to be wrong it is hard to argue objectively against the managers judgement, no matter what we think of him.

I say all this as someone who was a big fan of Rod's - out of those that were cast aside last season (that is Byrom, D'ath, Potter & Rod in my book) he was the one I thought was good enough for League 1
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« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2017, 16:40:16 pm »

Thanks Rod, after a poor start you proved everyone wrong and became our best centre half.
Don't worry apparently we are in for a young lad from the Northants combination div1 for an undisclosed flavour of crisps.  Tongue
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« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2017, 16:42:52 pm »

Thanks Rod, after a poor start you proved everyone wrong and became our best centre half.
Don't worry apparently we are in for a young lad from the Northants combination div1 for an undisclosed flavour of crisps.  Tongue

Have you not heard? The lad turned us down to go to Sileby because he'd heard the away fans facilities were better there. Also he lives in Moulton and didn't fancy making the long, arduous trip to Sixfields for match day  Grin
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« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2017, 16:48:29 pm »

 Grin Grin
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« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2017, 16:54:12 pm »

When he got up to speed and league football fit I thought he was very good. Could play, anticipate the flow of the game and in some games totally had the forwards in his pocket.
Personally thought he would keep improving as a player the more game time he got.
He still might but in the wrong shirt.

Best of luck Concrete.

Fell about laughing at this tribute - for a start he performed poorly at Bury.
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« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2017, 17:17:23 pm »

TBF Evers they were all pi55 poor at Bury.
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« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2017, 17:26:46 pm »

I do have to laugh at some of the things above. Hypothetical arguments of whether players can cut it at leagues they haven't played in.

Page didn't want him, JED didn't either and now he has been sold. So good business regardless of the fee!

Do I think he was rubbish? no. Do I think we can find better centre backs? easily.


To turn some of the arguments on their heads, Hoskins couldn't cut it at L2 for a manager who has had 2 successive promotions.  Yet he could cut in L1 for a manager who many (not me) refer to as clueless!

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« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2017, 17:27:51 pm »

Fell about laughing at this tribute - for a start he performed poorly at Bury.

It's all about opinions. Life would be boring if we all agreed. Thankfully this rarely happens on this forum
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« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2017, 17:28:16 pm »

TBF Evers they were all pi55 poor at Bury.

Cornell wasn't!
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« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2017, 17:29:25 pm »

Cornell wasn't!

Cornell was sh1t at Bury! Useless in fact!
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