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« on: August 12, 2017, 17:59:26 pm »

Why do we have to play Richards (who doesn't win a header) or Revell (who only flicks a ball on, which is easy to read)? They contribute very little to getting goals and it invites route one football.
I believe Waters playing on the last defender and Long would give more movement but it would still need support from our midfield.
Obviously we need O'Toole next week playing alongside Crooks.

If JE is going to play wing backs then it has to be Moloney (Phillips) and Smith so they supply the crosses.
Please some goals because even the Kettering and Rushden friendlies we were bereft of chances!
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2017, 18:03:18 pm »

Good sensible post.
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2017, 18:05:09 pm »

Agree totally.
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2017, 18:58:14 pm »

First game for me although I saw the feed from the Derby friendly.
I still think Rico can do a job for us, not so much Revell. People who accuse Richards of being lazy miss the point, he will score goals if he gets the supply. Crooks looks like he could be a very important player for us, similar to JJ in his presence but with quicker better feet. The two together will should be very good for us although I do wonder if they are a little too similar to each other. Having said that we are missing those late runs into the danger area from JJ.
Would agree it needs to be Smith (because is not a wingback) and Phillips who I thought was excellent today or Maloney, though Maloney works better as an attacking fullback rather than wing back for me.
Pierre, A Taylor, Poole all upgrades on last year's central defence.
Rest of the new boys looked OK without particularly impressing.
We need a goal and 3points. With a little bit of luck we could have been sitting on 4 points this evening.
Don't see JE going anywhere unless we are in the bottom four and in danger of losing contact with the teams above us but only after at least 12 games.
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2017, 22:39:40 pm »

Only Long is going to do anything upfront this season!
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2017, 22:43:45 pm »

Been saying for a couple of seasons Richards is overrated and he is.

Revell also not good enough.
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2017, 22:50:41 pm »

Also the insistence on being playing Rico/revs means having to shoehorn waters in the attacking midfield position which I don't feel gets the best out of him. Waters got 15 odd goals for a struggling team last year so how about playing him up top? I know it's fantasy football but what about a fluid front 3 of long, waters and harry forrester?!
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2017, 08:10:03 am »

Both Richards and Revell are too imobile, its not because they are bad players its their age. Its easy to defend against them and whilst both will still score goals their contribution won't be enough. We need another player like Long who is in comparison a breath of fresh air. Or we go with Waters and Long and another player picks up the role behind them two (JJOT when fit), the issue then is what if they pick up an injury, we woudl be back to Revell and Richards, Apprecaite Rico has been a good servant for the Club but we really shouldn't have extended his stay.
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2017, 08:22:45 am »

Been saying for a couple of seasons Richards is overrated and he is.

Revell also not good enough.
           Good post. Richards has been a very good servant, But he is well past his best, Revel is not and never has been good enough, JED seems to have the defending  sorted, Which is the right way to go. But we must find a good centre forward, not easy, but it has to be done
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2017, 08:53:18 am »

I think we need two decent quality strikers
Move revell on if he can no longer do it at this level and put rico out on loan to a league two/conference club till Jan.
It's all well and good investing in the squad but we all know that goalscorers win matches.
Three games
Three defeats
No goals

It's also well known that strikers are the most expensive commodity to bring in which is why we as a club haven't.
Fancy trumpeting an investment but not purchasing decent attackers for the final third!!
Let's just stick with the ones who nearly got us relegated and couldn't score for toffee at the backend of last season when we desperately needed goals to save our skin!!!
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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2017, 09:23:50 am »

I think we need two decent quality strikers
Move revell on if he can no longer do it at this level and put rico out on loan to a league two/conference club till Jan.
It's all well and good investing in the squad but we all know that goalscorers win matches.
Three games
Three defeats
No goals

It's also well known that strikers are the most expensive commodity to bring in which is why we as a club haven't.
Fancy trumpeting an investment but not purchasing decent attackers for the final third!!
Let's just stick with the ones who nearly got us relegated and couldn't score for toffee at the backend of last season when we desperately needed goals to save our skin!!!

We spent money on a striker.
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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2017, 09:28:26 am »

If we have spent money on a striker why on earth do the old farts get a game? They are past it and any insistence to play them will just drag the team down.
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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2017, 09:31:37 am »

And why pay money for a striker who scored 15 goals in a poor side last season and then play him in a withdrawn role where he is nowhere near as effective.
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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2017, 09:39:44 am »

For me I would have let Rico go and brought in M Smith from Pompey, far more mobile and can play the role of a lone striker if needed.
The problem though is not the strikers, Revell and Long are decent for this level, it's the service they are getting or not getting.
The system we are playing is dreadful to watch no width, no midfield, no chances created.
What it does make you is hard to break down because most of the time you have 5 at the back.
With Charlton away and then boro at home I can't see a goal let alone a win.
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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2017, 10:12:58 am »

If you are going to play either then give them what they thrive on, crosses into the box. I don't think we have enough quality in the wide area's, which in turn is depriving our old school centre forwards scoring opportunities
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« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2017, 10:20:18 am »


 What about James Collins from Luton, he looks like a good bet to me.
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« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2017, 13:50:47 pm »

What about James Collins from Luton, he looks like a good bet to me.

The same one that Luton just paid 250,000 for?

I've said it before but the only way I'd play either of them would be the central striker in a front 3. I'd instruct them to just sit right between the opposition centre backs and make a nuisance of themselves to create room for the wider 2 and midfield. Turn any decline of mobility into a strength basically.
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« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2017, 14:04:29 pm »

I agree, Waters should be up front.

What do we know though eh!
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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2017, 14:13:20 pm »

Give Rico the service into the box and he'll score plenty, play him up front on his own and he won't. Simple.
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« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2017, 14:16:04 pm »

Revell and Richards are past it. Simple.
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