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« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2017, 17:08:15 pm »

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« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2017, 17:31:22 pm »

Is it possible that Page didn't do a very good job and that JED has also been a poor choice? Just because Justin isn't working out, doesn't mean that Page was all of a sudden some messiah - like manager who was getting results on the pitch. KT has made 2 managerial appointments in 15 months and neither has worked out.  Page lost to Stourbridge and got humped 5v1 at Gas, so it wasn't as if he was sacked in the middle of a winning run


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« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2017, 17:32:15 pm »

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« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2017, 17:44:46 pm »

Is it possible that Page didn't do a very good job and that JED has also been a poor choice? Just because Justin isn't working out, doesn't mean that Page was all of a sudden some messiah

Of course it doesn't. Unless you've sat at home like some sad act, preying for another manager to fail the team you "support" so you can resurrect a ridiculously weak point.

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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2017, 18:19:31 pm »

Behind the boasting, there is a serious point here.

JED has been inferior to his less than illustrious predecessor in every respect (save for the fact that he has yet to describe his players as 'girls'). Sacking Page was absolutely the right decision and if KT has any notion of consistency and ambition (and I think he does) then he has to act decisively again ASAP.

The lesson to learn from both JED and Page is that tactical flexibility is a vital component of modern management. Atkins-style one-dimensional dinosaur management just doesn't cut it anymore. I want a manager with a tactical brain.
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« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2017, 18:52:27 pm »

Taking aside what league we are in, the football we have witnessed since around October last season has been as bad as it can possibly get.

Page should have been fired after Stourbridge, its not even debatable given hindsight. However, he lasted until January where a 5-0 defeat finally did it for him.

In comes JE. We benefitted (initially) from the new manager bounce, took a few points off of our struggling rivals and that was enough to see us over the line. My personal belief is that if Page had stayed for the duration of the season we'd have been relegated. JE effectively did the 'trouble shooting role'.

Since we got these points, we've succumbed to an even worse state on the pitch that we were under Page. It was time last week to get shot of Page, KT once again didn't do the job that any decent chairman would do and that would have been to sack the manager. As such, we've surrendered any chance of getting points on the board today before the team sheet was even given out. If he still doesn't act he will look very very stupid, in my eyes. Page fluked a win at Oxford, that ultimately kept things dragging on for longer than it should have and my fear at the moment is that the current team under JE will somehow do the same at some point. That will ultimately mean that we bag less points over the 46 games.

78 is looking for bites, but that said its a topic for debate and he was a big fan of Page and argued his case until he was finally sacked. So its no surprise that he sees the current incumbents struggles as a way to justify his reasonings for sticking with RP. We will never have the benefit of hindsight as to where we would be now if RP had stayed on, my belief is that we would be in league2.

Either way, the criteria for the next manager (assuming KT grows a pair) must be that he plays attacking football. This nonsense of 'trying to play for a draw from kickoff' must be kicked into touch, especially now as we have a reasonable budget to play with.

Jimmy Floyd H for me. it might work, it might not work. A bit like Johnsons appointment to be fair.

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« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2017, 20:31:12 pm »

Cobbler78  likes to gloat whenever possible. But neither of the two managers should have been appointed in the first place. Blame lays solely at the feet of KT.
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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2017, 20:41:30 pm »

Cobbler78  likes to gloat whenever possible. But neither of the two managers should have been appointed in the first place. Blame lays solely at the feet of KT.

Not gloating, just pointing out that I was correct. Two lots of managerial packages and 1 pay off to Port Vale for Page from Port Vale to pay off in less that 12 months, great business sense! If we had stuck with Page we would have stayed up last season, JED came in and did a worse job, game for game(this point is not a debate, it's a fact)

As I said, I'm against sacking managers, is bad for business and long term continuity, however 99% of sensible fans (obviously this excluded the majority on this forum) would do a better job that JED.
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« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2017, 20:45:53 pm »

Not gloating, just pointing out that I was correct. Two lots of managerial packages and 1 pay off to Port Vale for Page from Port Vale to pay off in less that 12 months, great business sense! If we had stuck with Page we would have stayed up last season, JED came in and did a worse job, game for game(this point is not a debate, it's a fact)

As I said, I'm against sacking managers, is bad for business and long term continuity, however 99% of sensible fans (obviously this excluded the majority on this forum) would do a better job that JED.

Crikey - you have returned to form big time.
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