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« Reply #220 on: October 07, 2017, 21:54:56 pm »

How certain cretins on here can say Buchanan  was poor amaze me how many times did they get past him how many goals came from his side of the pitch some on here habe no clue just jump on the bandwagon and follow other comments like sheep.
He was awful .
Defensively poor and have the ball away constantly
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« Reply #221 on: October 07, 2017, 22:03:45 pm »

Usually I agree with you Irchy but I thought Grimes played okay today .
He wanted the ball and was brave with it .
He carried the midfield I thought and was the only outfield player with credit , apart from Hoskins maybe

You must agree that he was playing ridiculously deep - obviously on the orders of the manager - and that his set pieces are poor?
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« Reply #222 on: October 07, 2017, 22:25:48 pm »

You must agree that he was playing ridiculously deep - obviously on the orders of the manager - and that his set pieces are poor?
He was playing deep but that’s not his fault .
I thought him and foley should have swapped .
Grimes always looks to be positive though and doesn’t shy from the ball .
Set pieces could be better , I agree
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« Reply #223 on: October 07, 2017, 22:27:28 pm »

How certain cretins on here can say Buchanan  was poor amaze me how many times did they get past him how many goals came from his side of the pitch some on here habe no clue just jump on the bandwagon and follow other comments like sheep.

Got to agree, he threw his body in front of at least two efforts.....he was far from the worst today!
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« Reply #224 on: October 07, 2017, 22:51:33 pm »

I  think am sure that was JFH thinking. Well not so sure but its a strong possibility.
But if it was , why didn’t he change it when it was obvious it wasn’t working ?
Waters or Hoskins could have come on
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« Reply #225 on: October 07, 2017, 23:04:56 pm »

Not being funny but will JFH walk after this?... So damaging to confidence a hammering like this.  Will he be able to pick them off the floor.  


It's not as if it is getting better for him; listening to him after the game he sounded a defeated man. I am worried about Ingram's situation as he must be fed up to.
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« Reply #226 on: October 07, 2017, 23:10:16 pm »

I have had the advantage of sleeping on this and yet I feel worse this morning. Yes we've got a shocking injury list, yes JFH made mistakes. Yes the squad is unbalanced with no width and no obvious leader on the pitch. However, when you have all this against you and are on the ropes that is when you earn your corn. You go man for man, you press, you work and you get right up the arse of the opposition and scrap for everything. What you don't do is rock back on your heels, shrug your shoulders, stick your hand down your shorts and play with your bell end. Forget the excuses it's the ineptitude that is both unexplainable, unacceptable and unforgivable. Form, injuries and selection issues you couldn't do much about on the pitch yesterday, effort you can. JFH has probably learned more yesterday than in his previous games put together. But It's only one game and it doesn't make our season however sickening it was, the same as the first win under Jimmy didn't either. But we can't have back to back or indeed any more performances like that, cause there is no excuse for ineptitude.
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« Reply #227 on: October 07, 2017, 23:27:15 pm »

I have had the advantage of sleeping on this and yet I feel worse this morning. Yes we've got a shocking injury list, yes JFH made mistakes. Yes the squad is unbalanced with no width and no obvious leader on the pitch. However, when you have all this against you and are on the ropes that is when you earn your corn. You go man for man, you press, you work and you get right up the arse of the opposition and scrap for everything. What you don't do is rock back on your heels, shrug your shoulders, stick your hand down your shorts and play with your bell end. Forget the excuses it's the ineptitude that is both unexplainable, unacceptable and unforgivable. Form, injuries and selection issues you couldn't do much about on the pitch yesterday, effort you can. JFH has probably learned more yesterday than in his previous games put together. But It's only one game and it doesn't make our season however sickening it was, the same as the first win under Jimmy didn't either. But we can't have back to back or indeed any more performances like that, cause there is no excuse for ineptitude.

Decent post MC - I was so shocked by our overall performance and complete ineptitude of many of the players. Think I will do what you claim to have done - is sleep on it. Actually how did you manage to sleep on it?
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« Reply #228 on: October 07, 2017, 23:31:00 pm »

One of the strange things about this game was the touch line reaction .
Neither JFH or his coaches were demonstrively trying to shore things up .
They all retreated when the players were shell shocked .
He also started to argue with supporters behind him .
A lot of lessons were learnt yesterday and true characters come to the fore .
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« Reply #229 on: October 08, 2017, 00:51:56 am »

Decent post MC - I was so shocked by our overall performance and complete ineptitude of many of the players. Think I will do what you claim to have done - is sleep on it. Actually how did you manage to sleep on it?
Tossed and turned Evers, tossed and turned. Tossing more than turning if I'm honest.
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« Reply #230 on: October 08, 2017, 04:41:29 am »

One of the strange things about this game was the touch line reaction .
Neither JFH or his coaches were demonstrively trying to shore things up .
They all retreated when the players were shell shocked .
He also started to argue with supporters behind him .
A lot of lessons were learnt yesterday and true characters come to the fore .

Both him and Austin apparantly told fans behind the dugout to shut up and bloody support the team.  Remember Wilder having a crack at fans in that section before.
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« Reply #231 on: October 08, 2017, 05:37:13 am »

Having slept on it, albeit badly, I'm of the thinking that maybe this is just a one off. We've been solid, professional and hardworking recently with some good football at times with our biggest worry being how to score goals. I will worry next week if we don't shake this performance off and bounce back against Wimbledon. That match could be the one that shapes our season. We need a reaction. I am still shell shocked about witnessing our second biggest home league defeat EVER but we now have to focus on the Dons and JFH will have to earn his corn and pick the players up and also find a goal scoring solution. At least Revell can't play. I'd recall the two loanees.. Stick Hoskins in from the start, try Waters up top with Rico and have young Joe and Leon on the bench. Moloneys injury could be the real worry as we don't have a natural replacement with Phillips out.
I'm glad I have booked Monday off work. Hoping people will have forgotten about it come Tuesday..... Huh?
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« Reply #232 on: October 08, 2017, 06:21:10 am »

Both him and Austin apparantly told fans behind the dugout to shut up and bloody support the team.  Remember Wilder having a crack at fans in that section before.

That’s where I sit and to be fair there are one or two negative bell ends in that section (no different to anywhere else in the ground I would imagine) but it was ill advised for JFH and Austin to start arguing with some of the supporters after the third went in (they didn’t have a leg to stand on when the fourth, fifth and sixth went in). To be faiir the supporters were also arguing with each other which is never pleasant and just put the cherry on top of a horrible day.
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« Reply #233 on: October 08, 2017, 06:28:28 am »

Injuries are no excuse for what happened yesterday.

That's the second time this season I've left a home game with 20 minutes left.
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« Reply #234 on: October 08, 2017, 06:41:58 am »

Did Hoskins also have words with some fans in the West Stand mid way between our dug out and the singing section?
It has to be kept in mind that Jimmy arrived when it was too late to bring any further signings in. Took over a completely over balanced squad heavy with midfielders that look only good enough for league 2 and either forwards that are wringing out the last season or two of their career or young lads that shouldn’t be thrown in at the deep end right now while the atmosphere amongst the fans is still toxic with the odour of Page and Edinburgh. Throwing in Lobjoit and Joe at this point could ruin them, our fans have been admirably patient but I think the patience of most broke yesterday.
Patience is needed right now. Just think if Jimmy manages to find a couple of mobile, younger forwards (We all know he has to) and they can be backed up by a midfield of McWilliams, O’Toole, Crookes, Grimes and McGugan? I find that prospect quite exciting.

Having said all that and trying to remain calm after yesterday’s embarrassment Jimmy and Austin did themselves absolutely no favours yesterday.

It was interesting to see the group of maybe 15 Chinese in the directors area clapping like seals with big grins on their faces as our players trooped down the tunnel while I walked past them on the stair feeling more embarrassed to be a Cobblers fan than I have done in quite some time. Different cultures I guess.
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« Reply #235 on: October 08, 2017, 06:50:47 am »

Did Hoskins also have words with some fans in the West Stand mid way between our dug out and the singing section?
It has to be kept in mind that Jimmy arrived when it was too late to bring any further signings in. Took over a completely over balanced squad heavy with midfielders that look only good enough for league 2 and either forwards that are wringing out the last season or two of their career or young lads that shouldn’t be thrown in at the deep end right now while the atmosphere amongst the fans is still toxic with the odour of Page and Edinburgh. Throwing in Lobjoit and Joe at this point could ruin them, our fans have been admirably patient but I think the patience of most broke yesterday.
Patience is needed right now. Just think if Jimmy manages to find a couple of mobile, younger forwards (We all know he has to) and they can be backed up by a midfield of McWilliams, O’Toole, Crookes, Grimes and McGugan? I find that prospect quite exciting.

Having said all that and trying to remain calm after yesterday’s embarrassment Jimmy and Austin did themselves absolutely no favours yesterday.

It was interesting to see the group of maybe 15 Chinese in the directors area clapping like seals with big grins on their faces as our players trooped down the tunnel while I walked past them on the stair feeling more embarrassed to be a Cobblers fan than I have done in quite some time. Different cultures I guess.

I want to echo your optimism on the couple of younger, quick strikers/wingers comment and agree that with the return of some of the key injured players it would be crucial but we’ve got to remember that we’re going to have to wait 3 months for any newcomers to be brought in, by then where are we likely to be if we keep churning performances like yesterday out?
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« Reply #236 on: October 08, 2017, 07:10:55 am »

Think the problem being is Grimes, Foley, Taylor, Pierre, Revell, Hanley, Waters, Barnett,Powell arent good enough.If they were we wouldnt be in this mess.

I would have said Bowditch but yesterday he looked only one with a tad of footballing brain. His ball through to Rico for our offside goal was a peach.

2 bad managerial appointments have destroyed a good team. Need to get over it. Be thankful we are league 1 club for however long it lasts.

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« Reply #237 on: October 08, 2017, 07:23:11 am »

Where's cobbler 78??  Still the Wimbledon game is a home banker surely.
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« Reply #238 on: October 08, 2017, 07:25:11 am »

Against Milton Keynes we played well, and looked like a very well drilled if somewhat weak up front mid table L1 side.

A solid 4-4-1-1 formation seemed to suit the personnel deployed, and everyone knew their jobs.

All JFH needed to do yesterday was replace the injured Crooks with Hoskins/Bowditch/Waters.

Instead he ripped the tactics to shreds, had Revell on the right wing and players looked completely lost. What on earth went through his mind on Friday when he picked the XI?
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« Reply #239 on: October 08, 2017, 07:31:21 am »

Think the problem being is Grimes, Foley, Taylor, Pierre, Revell, Hanley, Waters, Barnett,Powell arent good enough.If they were we wouldnt be in this mess.

I would have said Bowditch but yesterday he looked only one with a tad of footballing brain. His ball through to Rico for our offside goal was a peach.

2 bad managerial appointments have destroyed a good team. Need to get over it. Be thankful we are league 1 club for however long it lasts.


Don't agree with that, so Taylor isn't good enough but Buchanan is? Grimes isn't good enough but Bowditch doesn't quite make the list, Foley is written off after one game where he clearly wasn't match fit, to name a few. Seems completely knee jerk
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