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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2017, 09:51:24 am »

A town and catchment area the size of Northampton should be enjoying football at Championship level.  On this I agree with Beds - success has to have the foundations of reliable continuing investment combined with the infrastructure of a good stadium with modern facilities.  Add to this having your own training ground also with state of the art facilities and a player recruitment team that is more than one man and a car.  KT alone with David Bower cannot and will not deliver this but with KT plus the Chinese we may have a chance although writing this after yesterday's dismal performance watched by a large Chinese contingent I wonder what they are thinking today.  The Council also need to get off their backsides and sort out the land issues at Sixfields. The Council is serving no one including themselves well.  The message has to be you created a big part of the current problem so solve it.
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« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2017, 09:59:10 am »

...we may make the championship some day we may end up in the conference.


Edging your bets a little with that one...
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« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2017, 10:22:12 am »

A town and catchment area the size of Northampton should be enjoying football at Championship level.  On this I agree with Beds - success has to have the foundations of reliable continuing investment combined with the infrastructure of a good stadium with modern facilities.  Add to this having your own training ground also with state of the art facilities and a player recruitment team that is more than one man and a car.  KT alone with David Bower cannot and will not deliver this but with KT plus the Chinese we may have a chance although writing this after yesterday's dismal performance watched by a large Chinese contingent I wonder what they are thinking today.  The Council also need to get off their backsides and sort out the land issues at Sixfields. The Council is serving no one including themselves well.  The message has to be you created a big part of the current problem so solve it.
No ones really got a clue who owns what,who has invested what and what the future holds.
Is KT a money man or just a figurehead of a group of investors hoping to turn a profit.
Has KT invested himself?
Was the money running out and investment hurriedly acquired or was it really an attempt to improve the clubs fortunes?
This is beginning to seem like a stuck record to me.
Investors see an opportunity to profit from ntfc,they find its trickier than anticipated and will take a long while,if indeed at all to recover their investment or turn a profit and then the club is sold on to the next group hoping for a profit whilst the previous incumbents shuffle away.

Meanwhile there is no progress on a ground redevelopment and we are left with a dilapidated half built ground that has been mothballed.
Wouldn't it be great to actually have owners whose main objective was to invest in the club,build a new ground from scratch away from sixfields leaving the council to argue over what to do with the ground and its variously owned parcels of land?
Instead we only seem to attract owners because they are seeking a jackpot return on an investment which seems to be a pipe dream
I may well be completely biased but I still believe if we actually had wealthy owners who could pump £20M pounds into building a brand new stadium and another £10M into the team you could eventually rise to the championship and the way footballs going actually sell the club on for a substantial profit.

Instead we go round in the bargain basement with owners trying to make a few bob out of the club spending as little as possible on the ground until they can get the green light to make a profit,leaving us with at best a slightly less delapidated stadium in a best case scenario.

Oh how I wish for a proper football investor to spot a golden opportunity with ntfc and turn dreams into reality.
If the Chinese owners actually realised what an opportunity they have purchased I'd be looking for a very wealthy owner to sell onto for a substantial profit straight away.
Instead we stay at sixfields with constant arguments about a council holding back the club(you know the same council who managed to get us £10M investment and even after losing the lot refused to have the club liquidated) and fail to see any plan B.
The reason is that it takes a shrewd businessman to realise they are actually sitting on a potential goldmine but it's easy to overlook it if you yourself are unlikely to be the ones who may fully benefit financially further down the line due to lack of capital at the present time.
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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2017, 11:08:38 am »

Shoemaker's comments are pipe-dreams.  Moving away from Sixfields is not going to happen.  Why the likes of this poster are impliedly supporting the Council in stating that it lent £10 million and then didn't liquidate the club is ridiculous.  There was nothing to be gained from liquidation and the situation would not have happened if the loan had been properly managed and advances under the loan only released against engineer's interim certificates for work completed.  Easy you would think. Apparently, not for NBC.  Of course there may have been another agenda but we have to leave that to those still investigating the matter. No, so far as NBC is concerned it is in it it so deep it can't get out.  Therefore, it needs to sort out the further mess it made by creating two leases over the same land and also resolve queries over the boundaries.  Our future is unfortunately tied up with NBC.

We don't know about the Chinese but for as long as they are here they are our only hope.  I think it likely that KT and David Bower have recouped whatever they invested in the club on the entry of the Chinese to their company.  We are told that what the Chinese are interested in is education.  All a bit vague but if it is to learn how to run a successful football club welcome to the school of hard knocks. 
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« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2017, 15:56:29 pm »

Small amounts of sustainable growth in order to gradually  grow our supporters base/ attract more visiting fans/ day trippers by on average 2000 per game attracting attendances of between 7 and 10,000  which is the least we should have for our catchment playing league 1 football.
All working closely to involve our supporters and general catchment to be part of tge growth.
Those belittling tactics used to deny our club proper redevelopment need to be ignored and perpetrators forced to step into line with our clubs needs.
We are not an insignificant football club getting in the way of some land deal.
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« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2017, 20:06:57 pm »

Hi

False dreams is the problem

Wilder gave us a belief that Northampton Town might achieve something sometime in the future
but that never will happen,
We are a yo yo team bottom division for 90% of our history,
then a miracle season.....
Then never invest in the team then back to the bottom division,

The latest players brought to this club...
nobody really wanted
Where is the BIG signing,
the 15-20 goal a season striker,that is needed even to stay up.....






It doesn't even rhyme!
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« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2017, 22:09:10 pm »

It doesn't even rhyme!

I thought that...  Grin
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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2017, 08:11:24 am »

to be able to read is easy to be able to understand what is written is a gift
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« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2017, 12:59:01 pm »

in 2 years we will be mid to bottom league 2 side.

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« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2017, 20:47:19 pm »

Doesn't Wilder pleading "Just do the deal" and Pompey away, followed by the Market Square party seem like a generation ago?!
At least it's a lower league rollercoaster following the Cobblers. It must be very dull following someone like Stoke.
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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2017, 20:57:05 pm »

Doesn't Wilder pleading "Just do the deal" and Pompey away, followed by the Market Square party seem like a generation ago?!
At least it's a lower league rollercoaster following the Cobblers. It must be very dull following someone like Stoke.
Sure does, all under the watch of KT.
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« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2017, 20:21:06 pm »

We're s hit people with s hit lives who support a s hit club from a s hit town. That's the way it's always been. But we have our moments and it keeps us going. Come on Cobblers!
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« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2017, 21:12:10 pm »

We're s hit people with s hit lives who support a s hit club from a s hit town. That's the way it's always been. But we have our moments and it keeps us going. Come on Cobblers!
A bit harsh, it depends who you are comparing yourself to? You might disagree if you were reading this and came from North Korea, Mogadishu or Peterborough?
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« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2017, 21:46:58 pm »

Right I blame Wilder for the mess we're in.
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For goodness sake Doc we are NOT going down  Grin   you heard it here 1st  Wink

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