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« Reply #100 on: November 14, 2017, 21:53:08 pm »

Well the only thing tonight confirms is that our "squad" players are not good enough for league 1.

I would expect at least Richards, Revell, Smith, Kasim, Waters, Barnett and Hoskins to be shipped out in January.

For a progressive league 1 club all do not have enough quality

How has 1 game confirmed that? Football fans are so reactive and never give players time. Lots of people wanted O'Toole out at the start.
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« Reply #101 on: November 14, 2017, 21:57:41 pm »

Why, do we always get these points made after defeats.

Revell, Barnett & Hoskins didn't even play tonight so a bit harsh.

Nothing to do with tonight, I'd have said the same on Saturday.  Results and performances like tonight just reaffirm that.

It's not harsh, if we want to push on and move forward then we need better than the above

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« Reply #102 on: November 14, 2017, 22:08:46 pm »

JFH can say what he likes tonight , but he has ripped off the supporters .
We all love a cup run and expect the best side put out , not the stiffs .
If that was a league game tonight , it would have been a different side .
Not acceptable in my opinion and supporters are being ripped off .
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« Reply #103 on: November 14, 2017, 22:53:36 pm »

JFH can say what he likes tonight , but he has ripped off the supporters .
We all love a cup run and expect the best side put out , not the stiffs .
If that was a league game tonight , it would have been a different side .
Not acceptable in my opinion and supporters are being ripped off .


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« Reply #104 on: November 14, 2017, 22:59:55 pm »

Bit of a summary. Bowditch and Kasim have surely blown their last opportunities at NTFC. They were both abysmal tonight. Richards should seriously think about hanging his boots up too. He's done as a footballer.

Crooks was our best player by an absolute mile tonight. It's a huge boost having him back in the team.
I'm not a massive fan but Cornell had a decent game too.

The line up was a bit disappointing but i felt that it was a good opportunity for some of them to show that they were good enough and could challenge for a place in the 1st team squad. Unfortunately, some of them did not take advantage of that opportunity.
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« Reply #105 on: November 14, 2017, 23:14:49 pm »

Just got back (I live in Lincoln so a nice easy jaunt for me!) - I got in and paid at the ground btw ;-)

Just read people comments on here and I think it's a tad harsh. The first half was similar to the first half of the chuckle trade match last week. A weakened team, devoid of any real quality, a very limited attacking threat and only really Crooks could take any credit in the oppositions half. That said I thought taylor continued with his normal dominance and organisation at the back, Cornell was solid and there was the moment of magic that opened us up. He hit it so hard I was convinced it had hit the side netting but fair play. You have to applaud that, he'll never hit one like that again in his career! Scunny absolutely deserved their lead at half time.

Second half we certainly came back into it, defended well and attacked with more purpose and direction. Crooks held up the ball and distributed well. Smith became a greater outlet on the left and tried his best with limited skill set to get the ball in the box. Bowditch on the opposite flank worked hard but is a very average footballer and despite his best attempts you felt when it went right for him, even he was surprised he'd pulled it off.

McWilliams struggled a little at right back in my opinion and got caught out of position a few times. It will be nice to get him back in the middle of the park to not stunt his development. Foley I thought had a much improved game and tried to carry the ball more. Kasim is a lumbering, luxury player who, with time, is a good passer of the ball but we are often found wanting with him in the middle as he has no real speed to keep up, track back and is often bypassed in the middle.

Rico puts himself about but again, he cannot play the lone role any longer. With support higher up the pitch, particularly when crooks became a target man and with better calibre players (as demonstrated with JJOT & McG came on) he seems more comfortable to play off and becomes more effective.

The comments slating team line up tonight is just a little short sighted. Jimmy is just trying to rotate squad members and rest key players in the team for more important league battles ahead. Don't get me wrong a cup run is nice but certainly not important and I think his general direction was to nullify Sc***horpe and even be willing to chase a 1-0 down and push the likes of foley, Bowditch, kasim, smith, Rico etc for as long as possibly without using key subs. It nearly worked as well. Crooks put a good effort narrowly wide from inside the box and so nearly prodded home late on after a nice inter change with him and Rico. Waters had a chance after a mazy run and Foley should have done better with a free header on the 6 yard box.

Tough on them tonight but congrats to Sc***horpe. They edged it with their first half display and their moment of quality was enough.
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« Reply #106 on: November 14, 2017, 23:24:24 pm »

Very poor 1st half, midfield was total rubbish with Kasim, Foley and Richards having ineffective games to put it mildly. For all that the defence played ok and were only undone by a superb drive from their right hand side. Possibly Ingham might have saved it? As the second half wore on things got better and we began to get on the front foot. Perhaps JFH might have pulled on the subs sooner? Believe it or not we began to camp in their half but Richards was so poor that it was all for nothing. The defence saved us first half , but the side which started particularly the midfield and fwds were so poor that given Sc***horpeís lack of cutting edge in front of goal didnít matter. Which brings me to team selection. Bowditch, Kasim,Foley, the new year centre half, Richards, Smith perhaps McW are not good enough as a side. Perfectly obvious to me. Perhaps 2 or 3 might be ok surrounded by more accomplished players but not wholesale selection. Playing Bowditch on the right was a disaster; better to have started him on the left where he did ok Saturday.
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« Reply #107 on: November 14, 2017, 23:28:15 pm »

Bit of a summary. Bowditch and Kasim have surely blown their last opportunities at NTFC. They were both abysmal tonight. Richards should seriously think about hanging his boots up too. He's done as a footballer.

Crooks was our best player by an absolute mile tonight. It's a huge boost having him back in the team.
I'm not a massive fan but Cornell had a decent game too.

The line up was a bit disappointing but i felt that it was a good opportunity for some of them to show that they were good enough and could challenge for a place in the 1st team squad. Unfortunately, some of them did not take advantage of that opportunity.

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« Reply #108 on: November 15, 2017, 00:00:25 am »

Just got back (I live in Lincoln so a nice easy jaunt for me!) - I got in and paid at the ground btw ;-)

Just read people comments on here and I think it's a tad harsh. The first half was similar to the first half of the chuckle trade match last week. A weakened team, devoid of any real quality, a very limited attacking threat and only really Crooks could take any credit in the oppositions half. That said I thought taylor continued with his normal dominance and organisation at the back, Cornell was solid and there was the moment of magic that opened us up. He hit it so hard I was convinced it had hit the side netting but fair play. You have to applaud that, he'll never hit one like that again in his career! Scunny absolutely deserved their lead at half time.

Second half we certainly came back into it, defended well and attacked with more purpose and direction. Crooks held up the ball and distributed well. Smith became a greater outlet on the left and tried his best with limited skill set to get the ball in the box. Bowditch on the opposite flank worked hard but is a very average footballer and despite his best attempts you felt when it went right for him, even he was surprised he'd pulled it off.

McWilliams struggled a little at right back in my opinion and got caught out of position a few times. It will be nice to get him back in the middle of the park to not stunt his development. Foley I thought had a much improved game and tried to carry the ball more. Kasim is a lumbering, luxury player who, with time, is a good passer of the ball but we are often found wanting with him in the middle as he has no real speed to keep up, track back and is often bypassed in the middle.

Rico puts himself about but again, he cannot play the lone role any longer. With support higher up the pitch, particularly when crooks became a target man and with better calibre players (as demonstrated with JJOT & McG came on) he seems more comfortable to play off and becomes more effective.

The comments slating team line up tonight is just a little short sighted. Jimmy is just trying to rotate squad members and rest key players in the team for more important league battles ahead. Don't get me wrong a cup run is nice but certainly not important and I think his general direction was to nullify Sc***horpe and even be willing to chase a 1-0 down and push the likes of foley, Bowditch, kasim, smith, Rico etc for as long as possibly without using key subs. It nearly worked as well. Crooks put a good effort narrowly wide from inside the box and so nearly prodded home late on after a nice inter change with him and Rico. Waters had a chance after a mazy run and Foley should have done better with a free header on the 6 yard box.

Tough on them tonight but congrats to Sc***horpe. They edged it with their first half display and their moment of quality was enough.

Good write FW perhaps a tad generous to some of the fringe players! Good appraisal of JFH selection as was Dans summary. Still cannot understand why Bowditch was played on the right for 70mins! The caustic comments made against JFH by two experts on here appear to be by disappointed Radio Listeners who clearly donít understand football at all!
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« Reply #109 on: November 15, 2017, 00:09:32 am »

Good write FW perhaps a tad generous to some of the fringe players! Good appraisal of JFH selection as was Dans summary. Still cannot understand why Bowditch was played on the right for 70mins! The caustic comments made against JFH by two experts on here appear to be by disappointed Radio Listeners who clearly donít understand football at all!
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« Reply #110 on: November 15, 2017, 03:49:27 am »

Good write FW perhaps a tad generous to some of the fringe players! Good appraisal of JFH selection as was Dans summary. Still cannot understand why Bowditch was played on the right for 70mins! The caustic comments made against JFH by two experts on here appear to be by disappointed Radio Listeners who clearly donít understand football at all!

What fucking experts?

FW is bang on. Support whoever the manager puts out and wherever he may play them, his little finger knows more than any of the half baked dicks on here, let him try whatever he wants in a real match environment.

I never moaned as much after the 7-0. Some right whinging bastards here.
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« Reply #111 on: November 15, 2017, 07:04:21 am »

Hats off to the travelling few.
I think it shows the fringe players aren't as good as the regulars, which is good as it means he's picking the best players normally.
It is sad though to treat the FA Cup as a 'b' fixture. The only remaining opportunity to play one of the big boys. It's sad in general that many teams don't play their best 11 in the cup. Understandable with teams in 4 or 5 competitions but IMO for anyone below the Championship the FA cup should be seen as important as any game, especially at this stage of the season.
Anyone at Anfield knows they don't come around very often.

....and however big this squad, we still need two strikers. A bit of pressure now to turn them over at the weekend after last night.
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« Reply #112 on: November 15, 2017, 07:32:58 am »

I think if you asked most Cobblers supporters which of last night or Saturday is the more important match the answer would be heavily in favour of this Saturday.  There is also the added factor of a long trip to Plymouth next Tuesday followed by a home fixture against Bury.  So it is easy to understand JFH's thinking and, let's face it, the FA Cup has sadly become a diminished competition, talk it up though the BBC try to do.  The money bags Premier League clubs much more concerned about Europe or survival in that league are to blame for its demise.  If the winner of the FA Cup gained a Champions league place it might help but I think UEFA would not allow this.  In continental European countries domestic cup competitions are not considered important.

I am not sure that many of the fringe players did their cause any good last night and I expect Saturday's team to be very close to the one that did well at Oxford.
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« Reply #113 on: November 15, 2017, 08:17:37 am »

Whether JFH was right to make changes last night or not will be proven in the next week or so - if we take say a minimum of 5 points from Sc***horpe, Plymouth and bury then it was probably the right decision, if we end up with 3 or less then possibly less so. What does confuse me is that if we were going to ďrotateĒ the squad so much for the replay then why did we go with such a strong team in the first game?  On the McWilliams subject I think the previous poster makes a good point when he says that he hopes that Shaun doesnít end up being a jack of all trades - my fear is that on Saturday with the abundance of options in central midfield heís going to end up on the bench again with moloney coming back in as specialist right back.
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« Reply #114 on: November 15, 2017, 08:23:50 am »

You really shouldn't talk about cj and Glasto like that Cecil. They will get their feelings hurt.

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« Reply #115 on: November 15, 2017, 09:09:13 am »

The frightening thing is, had the Chinese money not arrived we'd be stuck with the likes of Kasim & Bowditch as our first team players.
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« Reply #116 on: November 15, 2017, 09:12:29 am »

Why, do we always get these points made after defeats.

Revell, Barnett & Hoskins didn't even play tonight so a bit harsh.

Not exactly harsh on Revell if he can't get into our heavily rotated cup teams any more. I'd imagine the vast majority of our supporters would prefer his first team wage being redistributed elsewhere. Bowditch and Kasim were both signed as first teamers as well (pre-investment money), so you'd expect we could sign some real quality in our forward positions if we can move some of these players on.

We have a squad of about 30ish players at the moment. I hope the people who travelled surely expected we'd have a heavily rotated squad for this fixture.
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« Reply #117 on: November 15, 2017, 09:16:03 am »

The frightening thing is, had the Chinese money not arrived we'd be stuck with the likes of Kasim & Bowditch as our first team players.

the way Edinburgh was shaping us up

Cornell

Moloney Barnett Poole Buchanan

Waters Kasim Foley Bowditch

Richards Revell

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« Reply #118 on: November 15, 2017, 09:33:50 am »

Bit hard to judge the performances of Kasim and Foley etc when there was no orthodox wingers on the pitch and Rico as the strike threat. Have to assess the team as a unit.

Shame we didn't go for this as Sc***horpe were ravaged by injuries and Donny were beatable in the next round.

Unless JFH Hasselbaink thinks we'll have a good go at the league this year with the players he has lined up...
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« Reply #119 on: November 15, 2017, 09:39:43 am »

the way Edinburgh was shaping us up

Cornell

Moloney Barnett Poole Buchanan

Waters Kasim Foley Bowditch

Richards Revell

 Shocked

With this lineup we would have been relegated by Christmas - youíve also got to remember that he employed buchs as left wing back where he was like a fish out of water.  Luckily the Chinese money enabled us to bring in amongst others Ash Taylor who has been a great JED signing.  Regarding revs, my understanding was that he is currently out with a groin injury, he hasnít been frozen out - having said that I would be very surprised if he is still here in January.
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