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January 2018 Transfer Rumours Thread

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« Reply #780 on: January 10, 2018, 09:15:58 am »

If that is a summary of what you believe JFH's thoughts to be then you've got O'Toole in the wrong place, he's shown no desire to play him deeper despite most of us lot thinking he's better there.

Would he not keep Moloney / Phillips and Buchs as backup to new first choice full backs, or do we think they wouldn't stay / would be too expensive as a backup?

Also, if we are playing a solo striker would we want 4 in the squad? 3 would probably be sufficient with maybe Iaciofano as a cheap wild card backup if he progresses?
And also , Waters has never once played as a striker , or Coddington in preference to Cornell. Foley has also rarely played on the middle and deep , despite it probably being his natural position .
One of the right backs will be kept I would think .
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« Reply #781 on: January 10, 2018, 09:49:19 am »

He's only playing one up front because in our current situation that is the only option available for us.

Any squad needs four strikers to provide flexibility, variety, cover and competition.

Striker 1 - Target man type used when need to play direct / chasing a game. Chips in 5 or 6 goals a season
Striker 2 - Mobile workhorse type who can score 10-12 goals a season (Long)
Striker 3 - Goalscorer / fox in box type who can score 15 goals a season (Richards in his prime)
Striker 4 - Quick, pacey type who can stretch teams / be an impact substitute who chips in with 5 or 6 goals a season

Our promotion season had this balance perfectly with Richards, Collins / DCL, Marquis and Hoskins.
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« Reply #782 on: January 10, 2018, 10:01:26 am »

He's only playing one up front because in our current situation that is the only option available for us.

 

Are you sure about this? He could have paired Long with Rico, Revell, Waters and Hoskins pretty much every game he has been in charge. JFH predominantly played 1 up front at Burton and QPR as well I believe, it seems to be his preference.
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« Reply #783 on: January 10, 2018, 10:37:02 am »

He might prefer one up front but he did play Revell & Long together a couple of times earlier in the season so I wouldn't entirely discount it. It'll be interesting to see the forwards he brings in
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« Reply #784 on: January 10, 2018, 11:02:02 am »

He might prefer one up front but he did play Revell & Long together a couple of times earlier in the season so I wouldn't entirely discount it. It'll be interesting to see the forwards he brings in

Agree on both counts just think in his ideal squad he will have no more than 3 strikers. I guess you can add Hoskins as a fourth as you mentioned with the promotion season but JFH clearly see's him as more of a wide player.
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« Reply #785 on: January 10, 2018, 11:16:25 am »

Are you sure about this? He could have paired Long with Rico, Revell, Waters and Hoskins pretty much every game he has been in charge. JFH predominantly played 1 up front at Burton and QPR as well I believe, it seems to be his preference.

Rico has been disappointing, Hoskins and Revell injured, with Waters you may have a case. Is he deemed by current management good enough?
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« Reply #786 on: January 10, 2018, 11:32:20 am »

Rico has been disappointing, Hoskins and Revell injured, with Waters you may have a case. Is he deemed by current management good enough?

No argument from me that the current striking options have been underwhelming (although I'd still argue that has much to do with poor service), was just pointing out that if Jimmy's preference was for 2 up front he's had ample opportunity to do it. It's not like the midfielders have been demanding selection and therefore we've had to play 5 each game.
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« Reply #787 on: January 10, 2018, 11:41:51 am »

Rico has been disappointing, Hoskins and Revell injured, with Waters you may have a case. Is he deemed by current management good enough?

Revell Injured??? PLEASE!!!!
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« Reply #788 on: January 10, 2018, 11:46:35 am »

He's only playing one up front because in our current situation that is the only option available for us.
Any squad needs four strikers to provide flexibility, variety, cover and competition.
Striker 1 - Target man type used when need to play direct / chasing a game. Chips in 5 or 6 goals a season
Striker 2 - Mobile workhorse type who can score 10-12 goals a season (Long)
Striker 3 - Goalscorer / fox in box type who can score 15 goals a season (Richards in his prime)
Striker 4 - Quick, pacey type who can stretch teams / be an impact substitute who chips in with 5 or 6 goals a season
Our promotion season had this balance perfectly with Richards, Collins / DCL, Marquis and Hoskins.

Striker 1 could be Revs, he should manage that amount of goals if he can stay fit and certainly works hard for the cause if we ever get this high pressing game going properly.

Striker 2 is Long as you suggest, if we can get him the service/players around him then he can reach that target.

Striker 4 could still be Hoskins, or maybe even Waters if they get a run of games up front. Sammy has looked threatening enough with the ball since returning from injury. It just depends if he starts finding the net. Waters has had one game up front that I recall, I think he should be given a chance at least or if JFH doesn'r rate him then he should be offloaded if possible.

Striker 3 is what we are looking at for me, but only if we are playing two upfront. Nobody is going to want to sign on permanently to share the main striking role with Long that could net that many goals I wouldn't have thought. We would be lucky to get another loanee of Long's quality unless JFH works some magic.
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« Reply #789 on: January 10, 2018, 12:05:37 pm »

Revell Injured??? PLEASE!!!!

For what other reason has he been absent?
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« Reply #790 on: January 10, 2018, 12:06:43 pm »

Any rumours?
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« Reply #791 on: January 10, 2018, 12:11:18 pm »

Striker 1 could be Revs, he should manage that amount of goals if he can stay fit and certainly works hard for the cause if we ever get this high pressing game going properly.

Striker 2 is Long as you suggest, if we can get him the service/players around him then he can reach that target.

Striker 4 could still be Hoskins, or maybe even Waters if they get a run of games up front. Sammy has looked threatening enough with the ball since returning from injury. It just depends if he starts finding the net. Waters has had one game up front that I recall, I think he should be given a chance at least or if JFH doesn'r rate him then he should be offloaded if possible.

Striker 3 is what we are looking at for me, but only if we are playing two upfront. Nobody is going to want to sign on permanently to share the main striking role with Long that could net that many goals I wouldn't have thought. We would be lucky to get another loanee of Long's quality unless JFH works some magic.



Striker 4 - Hoskins finishing and decision making in the final 3rd is awful - there is no way on this planet he will ever score 10 goals a year let alone 15 unless he signficantly improves - he is league 2 at very best - same with Waters
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« Reply #792 on: January 10, 2018, 12:13:06 pm »

For what other reason has he been absent?

I would have thought his reaction/celebration on Saturday alongside Jimmy's reaction and subsequent interview should tell you everything you need to know
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« Reply #793 on: January 10, 2018, 12:21:10 pm »

I would have thought his reaction/celebration on Saturday alongside Jimmy's reaction and subsequent interview should tell you everything you need to know

No? His first game back after a prolonged injury absence, he scores and he celebrates.
Unless you are aware of another rumour?
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« Reply #794 on: January 10, 2018, 12:21:37 pm »

Revell Injured??? PLEASE!!!!

Yes he WAS!

post edit : 'was' in the past tense.
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« Reply #795 on: January 10, 2018, 12:27:53 pm »

 i hear Revell has had the same injury as Bowditch now is suffering from.
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« Reply #796 on: January 10, 2018, 12:38:06 pm »


Striker 4 - Hoskins finishing and decision making in the final 3rd is awful - there is no way on this planet he will ever score 10 goals a year let alone 15 unless he signficantly improves - he is league 2 at very best - same with Waters

Striker 4 in Poggy's list was only down for 5 or 6 a season, I reckon Hoskins could get close.

Re: Waters, I'd like to reserve judgement on him until I've seen him play a run of games up front.
 
The only game I remember him starting up front was when we went with the twin aerial threat of him and Hoskins and spent all day pumping it up to them. If we've decided he is not good enough then we're fully trusting Jimmy's judgement, in which case we also need to trust him on Lobjoit/Iaciofano as well.
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« Reply #797 on: January 10, 2018, 12:53:21 pm »

i hear Revell has had the same injury as Bowditch now is suffering from.

Funny that hey ;0)
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« Reply #798 on: January 10, 2018, 13:01:17 pm »

I would have thought his reaction/celebration on Saturday alongside Jimmy's reaction and subsequent interview should tell you everything you need to know

I honestly believe JFH told Revell he was coming on. Patted him on the back, and said; "Show me why on earth you think you should be playing in my team".

Revell subsequently scores, and starts shout; "That's why!".

I don't see any other reason Revell would be shouting "That's why"?

All this being said. If Saturday comes about, and Revell isn't in the matchday squad... then I'll agree it'll be down to 'personal issues'.
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« Reply #799 on: January 10, 2018, 13:12:29 pm »

I honestly believe JFH told Revell he was coming on. Patted him on the back, and said; "Show me why on earth you think you should be playing in my team".

Revell subsequently scores, and starts shout; "That's why!".

I don't see any other reason Revell would be shouting "That's why"?

All this being said. If Saturday comes about, and Revell isn't in the matchday squad... then I'll agree it'll be down to 'personal issues'.

In the absence of a decent target man; after his well taken goal on Saturday I would hope Revell plays as he has plenty to prove with his career here in the balance.His wife works locally!
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