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« Reply #180 on: December 09, 2017, 16:32:21 pm »

I’d have a lot more respect for him if he actually had the balls to explain what he meant by his comments - all he’s done now is created an environment where rumours and speculation are going to be flying around.
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« Reply #181 on: December 09, 2017, 16:33:54 pm »

I’d have a lot more respect for him if he actually had the balls to explain what he meant by his comments - all he’s done now is created an environment where rumours and speculation are going to be flying around.

100% agree.

Come out and state the issues or keep quiet.
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« Reply #182 on: December 09, 2017, 16:37:36 pm »

Trying to find something...I thought Smith acquitted himself well, got stuck in, won tackles and header, a decent cross and all that with the extra burden of having to carry Buchanan.
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« Reply #183 on: December 09, 2017, 16:44:20 pm »

I really want to say "Well done" to all fans who travelled. I know how much it hurts when the side you love is an embarrassment, and it really is ! These are testing times in the extreme and the club has to somehow fashion a solution...letting it drift is not acceptable. Why are we so naff at finding the right person to manage our club?
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« Reply #184 on: December 09, 2017, 16:45:24 pm »

Everbrite, it's not about the usual negatives, as you put it, but about survival in this division.  JFH has been our manager for several months now and all I can say is that the situation is getting worse. I don't enjoy being critical of him but there is not a glimpse of this side improving and as Martin Smith said on the radio there is a lack of effort on the pitch with too many players were going through the motions.  That has to be completely unacceptable and the buck must stop with the manager. JFH should go and immediately. He will take us down to L2 and then goodness only knows where this club goes. Thomas has made his money from the Chinese and is sitting pretty. We are not.
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« Reply #185 on: December 09, 2017, 16:45:48 pm »

JFH saying problems behind the scenes when he took over and still not sorted.

Here we go again.
That's obviously the East stand debacle!!! Excuses, excuses, excuses!!! I'm getting very disillusioned with the current manager. I've said that before!
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« Reply #186 on: December 09, 2017, 16:52:16 pm »

That's obviously the East stand debacle!!! Excuses, excuses, excuses!!! I'm getting very disillusioned with the current manager. I've said that before!

Sounded more like player issues.
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« Reply #187 on: December 09, 2017, 16:54:23 pm »

Sounded more like player issues.

Well there's very obvious player issues. They aren't very good.
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« Reply #188 on: December 09, 2017, 16:55:52 pm »

Well there's very obvious player issues. They aren't very good.

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« Reply #189 on: December 09, 2017, 16:56:42 pm »

I should think it’s more likely to be a reference to funds that he has been promised for January? Like I say at a time when everything should be focussed on getting things sorted on the pitch he’s managed to create even more uncertainty. Oh for the wilder days - a proper manager who actually told the truth.
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« Reply #190 on: December 09, 2017, 16:58:57 pm »

That's obviously the East stand debacle!!! Excuses, excuses, excuses!!! I'm getting very disillusioned with the current manager. I've said that before!

That was my first reaction too, excuses to try and buy yourself more time.

The fact of the matter is he is the bloody manager and he should get on with his job regardless.

Look at what wilder did when the club was totally falling apart.

It just makes me more resentful towards him.

The facts are the group of players he has is not the best, but Jimmy is getting less out of them than JED or Page did and they will go down as 2 of the worst managers in our history.

He seems tactically inept, no real plan, inconsistent teams week in week out, players disappear with mysterious injuries. And a stubbornness of not being willing to recall young joe or give leon a go even tho they could do no worse than Revell or Richards, so similar to jed.

My concern is a host of new players coming in, in jan may not be our salvation. They may take weeks/months to settle and gel and who's to say they will be any better anyway


We may also be detached at the bottom by then.

It's really worrying and I'm not sure what the answer is? But the warning signs have been there for weeks and jimmys inability to react should cost him his job in my opinion.
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« Reply #191 on: December 09, 2017, 17:18:56 pm »

It can’t be as simple as ‘cost him his job’ when on a 3 year deal.
With our track record we should only ever give one year rolling deals. If managers have any success they leave us anyway.
With this big, expensive squad and poor expensive manager, we’ve found ourselves in a pretty difficult hole to dig out of. It could cost the kind of money which isn’t viable to preserve L1 status.
All part of the Cobblers cycle.
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« Reply #192 on: December 09, 2017, 17:20:23 pm »

It is a right mess isn't it?

I did have concerns about JFH before he was taken on. What's he done in management - took over a successful team, already built for him, at Burton. Followed by a failure at QPR where fans were very unhappy at his negative football.

However, KT will not sack him. We have to hope they have some good players lined up for January otherwise it could be curtains to league 1 football.

I think he was suggesting player unrest as the problems behind the scenes so we should find out soon who he's referring to when players are made available or released.
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« Reply #193 on: December 09, 2017, 17:25:20 pm »

Either that or he was just referring to the fact that he inherited a team with no wide players or prolific strikers and crap players on ludicrous contracts but he was well aware of that before he took over. Maybe he was hinting that he would have liked to have brought more out of contract players in but just look at the waste he is making out of mcgugan. I’ve no idea what he’s going on about but I do know that there’s always an excuse that doesn’t involve his own deficiencies.
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« Reply #194 on: December 09, 2017, 17:37:20 pm »

That was my first reaction too, excuses to try and buy yourself more time.

The fact of the matter is he is the bloody manager and he should get on with his job regardless.

Look at what wilder did when the club was totally falling apart.

It just makes me more resentful towards him.

The facts are the group of players he has is not the best, but Jimmy is getting less out of them than JED or Page did and they will go down as 2 of the worst managers in our history.

He seems tactically inept, no real plan, inconsistent teams week in week out, players disappear with mysterious injuries. And a stubbornness of not being willing to recall young joe or give leon a go even tho they could do no worse than Revell or Richards, so similar to jed.

My concern is a host of new players coming in, in jan may not be our salvation. They may take weeks/months to settle and gel and who's to say they will be any better anyway


We may also be detached at the bottom by then.

It's really worrying and I'm not sure what the answer is? But the warning signs have been there for weeks and jimmys inability to react should cost him his job in my opinion.
Very sensible post. My thoughts exactly. I refuse to accept that "these aren't his players" excuse. JFH has been a top footballer. He is qualified to coach/ manage a team. He is dealing with footballers every day of the week so nothing is strange there. He changes the team and formation every week with little success or idea. Little or no continuity which must affect players' confidence. Admittedly there are injuries along the way but his team simply isn't working.  The players aren't working. Something has to change and quickly or else we're off to the land of Vegan food next season.
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« Reply #195 on: December 09, 2017, 17:39:03 pm »

Everbrite, it's not about the usual negatives, as you put it, but about survival in this division.  JFH has been our manager for several months now and all I can say is that the situation is getting worse. I don't enjoy being critical of him but there is not a glimpse of this side improving and as Martin Smith said on the radio there is a lack of effort on the pitch with too many players were going through the motions.  That has to be completely unacceptable and the buck must stop with the manager. JFH should go and immediately. He will take us down to L2 and then goodness only knows where this club goes. Thomas has made his money from the Chinese and is sitting pretty. We are not.

My comments are based on the Plymouth, Portsmouth and today’s game. I do not include Bury! Today’s display was not acceptable and I think quite a few more have been similar.  Ok he has had injuries but would have started with JJOT and Richards. The only person who knows how to manage us is Calderwood and not many on here would accept that! What his disappointing is to see Oldham play with spirit and endeavour and certainly more organised. Everything we were not. Lot a people blaming Cornell for all the goals, the first goal was hit and hope. Second goal was poor defensive work all round. The third I thought was goal keeping error as was the 4th the 5th was truly shambolic. With Ingram it might have been about 2-0! What is wrong with Powell , McC and McW?
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« Reply #196 on: December 09, 2017, 17:41:09 pm »

Yes to Glastonbury's and Old Stratford's comments. Would you let JFH spend your money in January based on what he has done to date? If the answer is no then he has to go.
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« Reply #197 on: December 09, 2017, 17:42:40 pm »

Yet another shambolic performance.

Cornell just not inspire confidence.

Defensively we were poor throughout, stood off too much for the first goal, poor marking for the second, and again half hearted attempt to close down for the third.

We had the usual problems in midfield giving Oldham far too much space and time.

Upfront, attacking threat very limited .... Apart from a 10 minute spell at the beginning of the second half.

The only plus was JJOT coming on at half time - giving us some "added bite"  
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« Reply #198 on: December 09, 2017, 17:50:22 pm »

Yet another shambolic performance.

Cornell just not inspire confidence.

Defensively we were poor throughout, stood off too much for the first goal, poor marking for the second, and again half hearted attempt to close down for the third.

We had the usual problems in midfield giving Oldham far too much space and time.

Upfront, attacking threat very limited .... Apart from a 10 minute spell at the beginning of the second half.

The only plus was JJOT coming on at half time - giving us some "added bite"  

Some good and realistic comments there.
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« Reply #199 on: December 09, 2017, 18:00:19 pm »

For what it's worth I thought Calderwood was a good manager. KT doesn't know how to appoint the right man. 3 strikes and out?!
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