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« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2018, 07:28:20 am »

Rob Page was in charge for 34 games......Won 10, drew 8 and lost 16.
Hasselbaink has now been in charge for 34 games.....Won 10, drawn 9 and lost 15.

Thats progress folks!! 
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« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2018, 07:45:04 am »

There are plenty of comments to make about JFH's team and positional selections and constant tinkering but the one thing that is as clear as daylight is that he has to play JJOT "in the hole" behind the striker where he can challenge for the ball, set up attacks and makes runs into the opposition penalty area where he takes a lot of chances.  Why on earth JFH played JJOT in a deeper role last night completely defeats me. Foley or McWilliams could do that role if Crooks was injured which begs another question of why have Crooks on the bench if he was carrying a knock. If Buchanan had been a sub Bunney's nightmare match could and should have ended in an early bath.

I worry about JFH but I am worrying more about this fight against the drop. 
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« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2018, 07:51:40 am »

I can only echo what most of the previous comments have said re moving John Joe,Bunney who looks such a poor defender,Powell who should not be playing league football.
Going back to the game JFH played Revell right midfield,his baffling team selection,inability to change tactics quickly,in my opinion he will go down as one of our poorest ever Managers.
Whether we can stay up or get relegated I am not looking forward to next season with him in charge.
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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2018, 08:55:22 am »

What a terrible comparison.

Page came in and took on a team that had just walked league 2, JFH inherited utter garbage.


how many of that team was page allowed to keep and play in his first game?
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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2018, 11:22:36 am »

Before he got the job I said I was concerned that JFH had succeeded at Burton thanks to Gary Rowett laying a fantastic foundation, and had been sussed out at QPR.

I'm concerned that this may be proved to be correct..
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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2018, 12:13:21 pm »

All I can say is that so far his tactical nous has proved totally naff and it's in all our interests that he gets it right asap!
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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2018, 12:53:27 pm »

You only have to read Lovells comments from his post match interview to see the difference between the managers.

He "knew" we'd only play one up front so switched to a back 3....no point in having a full back there he said. Therefore he loaded the midfield and won the battle.

Lovell went to exploit our tactics and weaknesses....Hasselbaink looks to negate opposition strengths. He's too worried about trying to stop our opponents from playing rather than just play our own game and give THEM something to think about.

Lovell has done a good job at Gillingham....his first managerial post. Won 12 out of 25 games and only lost 5. They have only failed to score in 2 of those 25 games.
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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2018, 13:21:30 pm »

You only have to read Lovells comments from his post match interview to see the difference between the managers.

He "knew" we'd only play one up front so switched to a back 3....no point in having a full back there he said. Therefore he loaded the midfield and won the battle.

Lovell went to exploit our tactics and weaknesses....Hasselbaink looks to negate opposition strengths. He's too worried about trying to stop our opponents from playing rather than just play our own game and give THEM something to think about.

Lovell has done a good job at Gillingham....his first managerial post. Won 12 out of 25 games and only lost 5. They have only failed to score in 2 of those 25 games.

Opposition manager tries to negate our strengths and is successful. Praised for his approach.

Our manager tries to negate their strengths and is unsuccessful. Criticized for his approach.

I understand the team and manager will come under scrutiny on the back of another poor home defeat. But you have to be consistent with how you criticize managers.
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2018, 13:26:21 pm »

Jimmy unfortunately seems clueless most of the time and seems unwilling and inflexible to adapt.

The straight forward and correct thing to have done yesterday if van veen and crooks were both injured was just staight swaps for long and Mcwilliams.  Instead Tinkerbank tries to reiver the wheel.
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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2018, 13:28:45 pm »

Opposition manager tries to negate our strengths and is successful. Praised for his approach.

Our manager tries to negate their strengths and is unsuccessful. Criticized for his approach.

I understand the team and manager will come under scrutiny on the back of another poor home defeat. But you have to be consistent with how you criticize managers.

Depends how you read it!! If you are calling us playing one up front a "strength" then fair enough. He knew how we'd play so worked a system to exploit that. IMO Hasselbaink looks to nullify opposition teams rather than impose on them.

4 defenders and two holding midfielders, with only one player up front, at home.....really?? What is the "strength"Huh?
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« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2018, 13:30:38 pm »

Depends how you read it!! If you are calling us playing one up front a "strength" then fair enough. He knew how we'd play so worked a system to exploit that. IMO Hasselbaink looks to nullify opposition teams rather than impose on them.

4 defenders and two holding midfielders, with only one player up front, at home.....really?? What is the "strength"Huh?

The strength is where the criticism lays (in my opinion). And that is with the O'Toole and Long combo.

Rochdale nullified it successfully playing 3 at the back, and it looked like Gillingham tried the same.
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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2018, 14:04:56 pm »

How many times did he change the players and the system around last night causing confusion amongst most on the pitch? He's so tactically brilliant its scary! 22 mins on the clock last night before our first meaningful attack, as the home side we should take the initiative early on it very rarely happens. Seven home league games lost under him now, some with his own players!
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« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2018, 14:12:04 pm »

We need to get our best team picked, create our own style and stick with it. Stop focusing so much on the opposition and build on our own strengths.

I'm not calling for JFH to go or anything drastic like that but our lack of consistency is pretty much because of his constant chopping and changing.

The first half yesterday has to be as bad a half as we have had for years and only being 2 down was a miracle. Yes we got back into it in the second half but Gillingham managed to completely shut us back down and had a very comfortable last 10 / 15 minutes.

When so many of our fans only attend matches at Sixfields and haven't seen our recent away improvements how many season tickets will be renewed on 9 home defeats and a series of diabolical home performances?

 

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« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2018, 14:20:01 pm »

In my opinion JFH is still unsure of his best team and all the time he is worrying about the opposition he is never going to find it. He needs to settle on a way of playing and a team to play that way with back up players in each of the roles. That way the team will gel more quickly and we will start to see vast improvements on the pitch. If we then lose someone through injury we don't have to change things around to accomodate whoeer comes on. On paper we have a very strong squad, we just need them to be confident in the way they need to play no matter who the opposition is.
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« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2018, 14:32:30 pm »

Fundamentally, he's been financially backed like no other manager in our history and can have no excuses if he does not succeed. If we go down he'll have to go and he could not complain if he did.
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« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2018, 14:38:13 pm »

I wish he was sure of our best 11, then we could stick to it. But we're never going to have a best 11 when he's making 2/3/4 changes per game.

Is he a manager who would get a DVD through the post of our upcoming oppositions last game, get the squad together to watch the DVD and then look at the strengths of the opposition and primarily look to counter that.

Whereas, with the squad he has at his disposal he should be looking at the DVD, identifying weaknesses and going after them.

He's too negative IMO......

Plus...the whole "wait till he's got his own players" thing......well didn't he bring in 9 newbies?  He only started three of them last night (O'Donnell, Bunney, Turnbull) with another three brought on as subs (Perreira, Ariyibi, Mathis) with 3 more (Facey, Bridge and van Veen) not featuring at all.
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« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2018, 14:41:20 pm »

To be fair to him of the 3 that didn't feature, 2 of them were out injured. But yes he does now have his own squad and I would hope he will start to play a settled team. I am a great believer in play to your strengths and let the opposition worry about you not the other way round.
Time will tell if JFH is the right man, I hope he is but still not sure.
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« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2018, 14:45:04 pm »


Plus...the whole "wait till he's got his own players" thing......well didn't he bring in 9 newbies?  He only started three of them last night (O'Donnell, Bunney, Turnbull) with another three brought on as subs (Perreira, Ariyibi, Mathis) with 3 more (Facey, Bridge and van Veen) not featuring at all.

So every new player (who is fit and available) played, except Bridge?

JFH is a monster.
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« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2018, 15:06:21 pm »

I don't believe Crooks was injured or he wouldn't have been on the bench. I think JFH was protecting him from the card trigger happy referee who sent him off earlier in the season
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« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2018, 15:12:19 pm »

                   HA. HA HA. VERY GOOD.
Ahh there you are Baldy's been worried sick..
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