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« on: April 28, 2018, 16:57:43 pm »

Can we get this lazy feckless **** on the transfer list tonight please? Think I could have contributed more in that last 10 minutes. His continual flopping about like a dying salmon when competing for headers, and casually wandering round the pitch like a lost child, typified what has gone wrong for us this season. Not a lack of quality but a lack of application.
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2018, 17:03:36 pm »

Substitutions totally to blame for that defeat...fresh legs were needed yes but didnít need that change. Players on the bench like Foley who has worked hard every game and could have done a much better job coming on today.
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2018, 17:05:00 pm »

Substitutions totally to blame for that defeat...fresh legs were needed yes but didnít need that change. Players on the bench like Foley who has worked hard every game and could have done a much better job coming on today.

Correct subs imo we needed to win and pushed for it
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2018, 17:07:36 pm »

Well I agree with 78...I'd have rather had Foley on. That would have actually been a more positive change rather than willingly going down to 10 men.
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2018, 17:08:25 pm »

Correct subs imo we needed to win and pushed for it

Draw would've been enough to take it to next week so stop talking ****
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2018, 17:29:27 pm »

Correct subs imo we needed to win and pushed for it
Disagree mate there was a gap in midfield when McWilliams and Crooks came off Crooks was playing great. I would have brought on Foley and Long for Hoskins and McWilliams. KVV is rubbish and should have stayed on the bench.

As someone mentioned as draw wouldn't have been the end of the world.



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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2018, 17:47:39 pm »

Can we get this lazy feckless **** on the transfer list tonight please? Think I could have contributed more in that last 10 minutes. His continual flopping about like a dying salmon when competing for headers, and casually wandering round the pitch like a lost child, typified what has gone wrong for us this season. Not a lack of quality but a lack of application.

Well I was there and we should have got a draw. In hindsight the subs were flawed. Would have kept Crooks and Foley for McWilliams. vV when on never had a chance; except one half chance! Hoskins for all his running never had a shot on goal(AFAIK). We missed at least two good chances.
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2018, 17:57:43 pm »

Well I was there and we should have got a draw. In hindsight the subs were flawed. Would have kept Crooks and Foley for McWilliams. vV when on never had a chance; except one half chance! Hoskins for all his running never had a shot on goal(AFAIK). We missed at least two good chances.

Disagree, we needed to go for it today. Imagine the outcry had we settled for a point today, beat oldham and still gone down (which is likely to gave happen if rochdale and walsall equal/ better our results and remember walsall have a game in hand)
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2018, 18:02:45 pm »

 To be fair, I think Van Veen is a decent player and (like many people) I was pleased when we signed him. Granted, he's been absolutely **** in every appearance for us so far but it seems he has been carrying a knock for that time. Either way, he's only been here for a short time and he's likely to be a key player for us next season, so let's not make him a scapegoat for this whole, sorry car crash of a season.
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2018, 18:14:22 pm »

Disagree, we needed to go for it today. Imagine the outcry had we settled for a point today, beat oldham and still gone down (which is likely to gave happen if rochdale and walsall equal/ better our results and remember walsall have a game in hand)

There is absolutely no basis for your argument.

The fact is we are now down because we lost.

Had we drawn the game we wouldn't be down.

You are talking absolute rubbish.
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2018, 18:16:23 pm »

Disagree, we needed to go for it today. Imagine the outcry had we settled for a point today, beat oldham and still gone down (which is likely to gave happen if rochdale and walsall equal/ better our results and remember walsall have a game in hand)

Changing shape was a mistake, we could have gone more attacking without doing that. Long for McWilliams for example JJ back into midfield. Crooks coming off was also a mistake, he was troubling them. That all said I kind of understand why he did what he did but it felt a bit naive.

What I donít understand was, after changing shape and us being under the cosh he chucked Taylor upfront. Thatís the sort of move you do when you are down if you donít score. Itís poor game/situation management and itís a black mark against Austin.

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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2018, 18:17:44 pm »

To be fair, I think Van Veen is a decent player and (like many people) I was pleased when we signed him. Granted, he's been absolutely **** in every appearance for us so far but it seems he has been carrying a knock for that time. Either way, he's only been here for a short time and he's likely to be a key player for us next season, so let's not make him a scapegoat for this whole, sorry car crash of a season.
Can't you see how useless this bloke is? He really is not fit to wear the shirt and probably one of the worst players I have ever seen since Leon bloody Constantine. When Van Veen came on it was like going down to ten men. Absolute rubbish.
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2018, 18:28:00 pm »

Can't you see how useless this bloke is? He really is not fit to wear the shirt and probably one of the worst players I have ever seen since Leon bloody Constantine. When Van Veen came on it was like going down to ten men. Absolute rubbish.

Disagree - vV is a decent footballer and is a proven goal scorer at lower league level. Personally thought that Long was worse today.
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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2018, 18:28:31 pm »

Can't you see how useless this bloke is? He really is not fit to wear the shirt and probably one of the worst players I have ever seen since Leon bloody Constantine. When Van Veen came on it was like going down to ten men. Absolute rubbish.

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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2018, 18:34:22 pm »

There is absolutely no basis for your argument.

The fact is we are now down because we lost.

Had we drawn the game we wouldn't be down.

You are talking absolute rubbish.

No we would have delayed it till next week. By going for the 3 points we were attempting to give ourselves a chance next weekend.
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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2018, 18:40:01 pm »

No we would have delayed it till next week. By going for the 3 points we were attempting to give ourselves a chance next weekend.

If we win next week and go down on goal difference will you still feel the same?
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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2018, 18:46:04 pm »

If we win next week and go down on goal difference will you still feel the same?

Yep because that won't happen. Rochdale will pick up at least a point next week. We were always going to need to take 6 points from these last two games regardless to give ourselves a chance.
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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2018, 18:50:16 pm »

Yep because that won't happen. Rochdale will pick up at least a point next week. We were always going to need to take 6 points from these last two games regardless to give ourselves a chance.

You may be right, weíll find out next week. Personally Iíd rather have the chance of staying up on the last day than be relegated a week earlier. Donít forget a win today wouldnít have guaranteed us anything.
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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2018, 18:54:25 pm »

You may be right, weíll find out next week. Personally Iíd rather have the chance of staying up on the last day than be relegated a week earlier. Donít forget a win today wouldnít have guaranteed us anything.

No, but it would have given us a much better opportunity next week as well as keeping walsall in the mix. Also don't forget rochdale were heading for a point today too till very late on. It's just my opinion but I'd have gone for it today too. Maybe hoskins should have made way rather than Mcwilliams or crooks tho.
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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2018, 19:09:01 pm »

Disagree - vV is a decent footballer 
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