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« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2018, 18:42:26 pm » |
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Either way, he's only been here for a short time and he's likely to be a key player for us next season
Hahahahaha. If he can't be arsed to play for us in League One what makes you think he can be arsed to play for us in League Two? You must be on a wind up. I'd rather pay for his flight back to the Netherlands than watch him play another minute in a Cobblers shirt.
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« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2018, 18:58:50 pm » |
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Disagree - vV is a decent footballer and is a proven goal scorer at lower league level. Personally thought that Long was worse today.
VV is a decent footballer you say. Hes earning at least 3 or 4 grand a week, maybe a lot more. He's been here 3 months. He's not scored a single goal or even come close to scoring a goal. I don't believe he's set a goal up. He bottles challenges, he never wins headers and he wished both teams luck when we played his old club. He's a grade A w@nker. I couldn't believe we brought him on to try and get a goal. But fair enough, football is subjective I suppose. If you believe him to be a decent footballer then Id argue that makes it even worse that he hasn't bloody tried since he's come here! The saving grace of relegation is that I believe him to be one of the players with a clause in his contract. Im assuming this, I may be wrong. But If Im right then we can effectively get shot at no cost to us come the end of the Season. He's the first player we need to get shot of, we cannot afford him and we certainly won't be able to offload him to another club given the wages he's on if a clause isn't in place! He's got to be quite literally the worst signing we've made in the last 30 years. We actually paid for him FFS! And his wages are without doubt massive!
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« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2018, 19:15:58 pm » |
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I don't really buy that there are professional footballers that don't care about relegation. Even if he's on decent money, it's a short career and a poor spell with us could mean he'd struggle to be pick up another league contract afterwards, like many other past players we've released.
Suspect he hasn't got anywhere near to match fitness since his arrival, and fatigue / low confidence can easily be confused with lack of effort.
Could still be a dud next a season, but I wouldn't be surprised if he came back a completely different player after a full pre-season. Similar to Langmead's transformation after looking horrendously off the pace in his loan spell.
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« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2018, 19:20:20 pm » |
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Hahahahaha.
If he can't be arsed to play for us in League One what makes you think he can be arsed to play for us in League Two?
You must be on a wind up. I'd rather pay for his flight back to the Netherlands than watch him play another minute in a Cobblers shirt.
I'm not on a wind up at all. I recall a national newspaper doing a "cut out and keep" guide to where the goal is and what you do with it for Dennis Bergkamp when he first signed for Arsenal. I'm not for one second equating Van Veen with Bergkamp (despite the shared nationality), but sometimes strikers don't hit the ground running; it doesn't mean they are bad players. I genuinely rate Van Veen as a good player and, if we can keep hold of him, think that next year he could be the 20 goal a season striker we've been missing.
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« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2018, 19:26:41 pm » |
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I genuinely rate Van Veen as a good player
Based on what exactly?
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« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2018, 19:40:24 pm » |
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Based on what exactly?
Performances prior to joining us.
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« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2018, 19:45:03 pm » |
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we were down before Austin made those subs..... f*** me to win 4 games in a row is and was impossible.
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« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2018, 20:05:40 pm » |
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VV is a decent footballer you say.
Hes earning at least 3 or 4 grand a week, maybe a lot more. He's been here 3 months. He's not scored a single goal or even come close to scoring a goal. I don't believe he's set a goal up. He bottles challenges, he never wins headers and he wished both teams luck when we played his old club.
He's a grade A w@nker. I couldn't believe we brought him on to try and get a goal. But fair enough, football is subjective I suppose. If you believe him to be a decent footballer then Id argue that makes it even worse that he hasn't bloody tried since he's come here!
The saving grace of relegation is that I believe him to be one of the players with a clause in his contract. Im assuming this, I may be wrong. But If Im right then we can effectively get shot at no cost to us come the end of the Season. He's the first player we need to get shot of, we cannot afford him and we certainly won't be able to offload him to another club given the wages he's on if a clause isn't in place!
He's got to be quite literally the worst signing we've made in the last 30 years. We actually paid for him FFS! And his wages are without doubt massive!
He scored 5 goals in 9 games before coming to us.....and has not looked like scoring a goal in the 10 games he's played for us!! Why does that happen? Why the extremes in form? That said, his only two goals this season before that run came in games in the Checkatrade against U-21 sides and overall he only scored 23 goals in 116 games for Scunny.....1 in 5, so I don't really get why he was ever so highly rated!!
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Another Pedj
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« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2018, 20:06:41 pm » |
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Substitutions totally to blame for that defeat...fresh legs were needed yes but didn’t need that change. Players on the bench like Foley who has worked hard every game and could have done a much better job coming on today.
What a load of Cobblers. Yes they didn't work but to say that was the sole reason suggests your head is so far up your Arsenal you need surgery
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« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2018, 20:21:18 pm » |
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Steve Howard Steve Morrison etc etc etc,
stop being an arse......
he is a person trying to do a job,
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« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2018, 20:29:28 pm » |
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He scored 5 goals in 9 games before coming to us.....and has not looked like scoring a goal in the 10 games he's played for us!! Why does that happen? Why the extremes in form?
That said, his only two goals this season before that run came in games in the Checkatrade against U-21 sides and overall he only scored 23 goals in 116 games for Scunny.....1 in 5, so I don't really get why he was ever so highly rated!!
When we signed him, I thought rightly or wrongly, that we'd signed a 'target man'. God I couldn't have been more wrong. Injured or not, he has zero ability to bring others into play, hold the ball up etc. He is, quite literally, a not very good finisher! And thats it! If he's still here in August, taking up a huge percentage of our wage bill, we will *probably go down to the national league. I very much doubt he will be though. Total and utter waste of space!
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Another Pedj
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« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2018, 20:38:08 pm » |
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He's only a good player if he is interested. At the moment he just displays the attitude of someone who wants to be elsewhere. If so Bye asap
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« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2018, 20:41:40 pm » |
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...so I don't really get why he was ever so highly rated!!
Because he is Dutch...as is Lukassen!
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« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2018, 20:46:24 pm » |
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To be fair, I think Van Veen is a decent player and (like many people) I was pleased when we signed him. Granted, he's been absolutely **** in every appearance for us so far but it seems he has been carrying a knock for that time. Either way, he's only been here for a short time and he's likely to be a key player for us next season, so let's not make him a scapegoat for this whole, sorry car crash of a season.
Nah f*** him, let's scapegoat the lazy prick. He gets brought on for 10 minutes at the end of a game and if we score, we're on course to stay up, if we concede, we go down. He then produces possibly the most half arsed 10 minute cameo I've ever had the misfortune of witnessing. I really hope he's not a key player for us next season because that'll mean the wage-thieving dickhead is still here. I can cope with players whose ability is limited, but not with those who really can't be bothered.
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« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2018, 21:41:17 pm » |
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Disagree, we needed to go for it today. Imagine the outcry had we settled for a point today, beat oldham and still gone down (which is likely to gave happen if rochdale and walsall equal/ better our results and remember walsall have a game in hand)
Us beating Oldham and Rochdale losing to Charlton is hardly a ridiculous scenario that could not happen. And that is completely ignoring the possibility of Walsall losing their last two as a further chance at survival. I don’t want to slate Austin but it is the most frustrating part for me that we went so kamikaze today without seemingly even considering the above scenario.
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« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2018, 21:46:57 pm » |
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Van veen lazy useless lightweight tosser,
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« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2018, 06:17:46 am » |
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Whilst we are on the subject of players who don’t really care - did folks notice Grimes totally jib two 50-50 balls and give the ball away dangerously in midfield - undoubtedly a talented player but not one I’d want next to me in the trenches.
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« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2018, 06:32:21 am » |
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Grimes is NOT a defensive midfielder, JFH please note, BUT he is a skillful creative midfielder, which many do not exist. Foley and McWilliams are your holding midfielders not Crooks and Grimes.
It goes back to my comment in August we have good players BUT the manager makes a team........they failed!!!
re Van Bellend, he must show persperation before applying his skill.........he has failed!
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« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2018, 06:52:42 am » |
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Maybe he is injured to tge point where we haven't actually seen a true him yet?
I might be clutching at straws but the lad scored 6 in 7 for scunny in this very league before joining us, so he must have something about him?
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