Kevin van Veen

[everbrite]

Those sentiments might be admiral, had the **** not said what he said at the awards ceremony!
I guess there is the thin chance it was 'out of context' - ie, "I'I don't think I'm a League 2 player and want to do everything to prove that next season and help get Northampton out of this mess"
Unlikely, as would have been reported as such!

The injury excuse has also worn thin!

JFH said he was injured after the Wdon game! Somewhat unusual to see you follow the route of hearsay and dogma prior to establishment of any relevant information. Is there a slight relaxation of your harsh opinion/attitude towards vV?
Normally you have such high principles especially where the facts are somewhat distorted. For instance your beer guides on here are generally accepted by many based on your accuracy/integrity.

[JollyCobbler]

Those sentiments might be admiral, had the **** not said what he said at the awards ceremony!
I guess there is the thin chance it was 'out of context' - ie, "I'I don't think I'm a League 2 player and want to do everything to prove that next season and help get Northampton out of this mess"
Unlikely, as would have been reported as such!

The injury excuse has also worn thin!

Who actually heard him say this 'League 2 player' comment? And to be honest, unless it was more than one poster on here, then i'd be inclined to take it with a large pinch of salt. Firstly, there is an awful lot of bollox posted on here, and secondly, it could also be something he said which was taken completely out of context during the course of a conversation.

And, for the record, yes KVV has been abysmal since joining us, but the title of this thread is a disgrace given it is about one of our players. There is no continuity around here, mods jump all over threads and lock them over the slightest thing that irks them, and then they themselves spend too much time belittling certain posters (Beds, Evers), while allowing infantile headings like the title of this thread.

[Coolcat]

Who actually heard him say this 'League 2 player' comment? And to be honest, unless it was more than one poster on here, then i'd be inclined to take it with a large pinch of salt. Firstly, there is an awful lot of bollox posted on here, and secondly, it could also be something he said which was taken completely out of context during the course of a conversation.

And, for the record, yes KVV has been abysmal since joining us, but the title of this thread is a disgrace given it is about one of our players. There is no continuity around here, mods jump all over threads and lock them over the slightest thing that irks them, and then they themselves spend too much time belittling certain posters (Beds, Evers), while allowing infantile headings like the title of this thread.

Actually Jolly, the context issue I've clearly laid out in the post you've quoted!

Point 2 (how do we know authenticity...) In short we don't!
However, this isn't an agenda driven tabloid journo source...it's from a Cobblers fan(s). As mentioned by another poster, why on Earth would a fellow Cobblers fan make up such a story?*

*This is a rhetorical question Lukey/Evers et-al...I don't need predictable answers to this...other than 'they wouldn't!'

Bunney also in the Ceremonygate mix!

[everbrite]

Actually Jolly, the context issue I've clearly laid out in the post you've quoted!

Point 2 (how do we know authenticity...) In short we don't!
However, this isn't an agenda driven tabloid journo source...it's from a Cobblers fan(s). As mentioned by another poster, why on Earth would a fellow Cobblers fan make up such a story?*

*This is a rhetorical question Lukey/Evers et-al...I don't need predictable answers to this...other than 'they wouldn't!'

Bunney also in the Ceremonygate mix!

Surprisingly somewhat naive comments from you on this issue. The context issue you claim is clearly laid out in your post - well it is if you  believe wholeheartedly in Owls report.  You of all people from a debating POV would question the validity of hearsay comment. If Owly had asked the question himself then that might have had some credibility. It is not unusual for posters to embellish their comments with supportive 'facts' which in this case was all to rapidly assumed as 'gospel', particularly if it supports their argument.  The vilification of vV is partly driven by theories arising from our relegation; none of us are in the know [except one ], but if vV did utter those words in the manner claimed then of course, he deserves no sympathy. To be frank I am surprised you have adopted/assumed the popular viewpoint without first deliberating on the known facts.

[guest2235]

Who actually heard him say this 'League 2 player' comment? And to be honest, unless it was more than one poster on here, then i'd be inclined to take it with a large pinch of salt. Firstly, there is an awful lot of bollox posted on here, and secondly, it could also be something he said which was taken completely out of context during the course of a conversation.

And, for the record, yes KVV has been abysmal since joining us, but the title of this thread is a disgrace given it is about one of our players. There is no continuity around here, mods jump all over threads and lock them over the slightest thing that irks them, and then they themselves spend too much time belittling certain posters (Beds, Evers), while allowing infantile headings like the title of this thread.

100% true and furthermore mentioned his agent was looking for a move. I would never post something like that without it being true... no salt needed!

[Mathius]

I said some weeks ago that he had his agent working on his exit but their were some doubters then. Even if we'd stayed up he would have wanted out. For whatever reason he wasn't/ isn't happy at the club. Best for all concerned if we part company. If he was committed I would be happy to see him stay and attempt to turn his form around. Let's hope he can find another club after his miserable stay with us.

[Coolcat]

Surprisingly somewhat naive comments from you on this issue. The context issue you claim is clearly laid out in your post - well it is if you  believe wholeheartedly in Owls report.  You of all people from a debating POV would question the validity of hearsay comment. If Owly had asked the question himself then that might have had some credibility. It is not unusual for posters to embellish their comments with supportive 'facts' which in this case was all to rapidly assumed as 'gospel', particularly if it supports their argument.  The vilification of vV is partly driven by theories arising from our relegation; none of us are in the know [except one ], but if vV did utter those words in the manner claimed then of course, he deserves no sympathy. To be frank I am surprised you have adopted/assumed the popular viewpoint without first deliberating on the known facts.

What do you mean "you of all people"? I'm just a tw*t who likes drinking ales...and hates guys with beards! 

[guest2995]

The biggest surprise of all is that he was even involved on Saturday .
He is not interested .

[guest1269]

And, for the record, yes KVV has been abysmal since joining us, but the title of this thread is a disgrace.....

I think you are being a bit precious on this one - sure not a great title, lacking in respect and language I would not choose but remember it was posted emotionally, minutes after we had been relegated and I’m sure the poster (like anyone who saw the game) was angry at another ineffective and seemingly can’t be arsed display by KVV - I guess the title could be changed to “KVV has been abysmal since joining us” - you couldn’t really object to that could you?😉

[everbrite]

I think you are being a bit precious on this one - sure not a great title, lacking in respect and language I would not choose but remember it was posted emotionally, minutes after we had been relegated and I’m sure the poster (like anyone who saw the game) was angry at another ineffective and seemingly can’t be arsed display by KVV - I guess the title could be changed to “KVV has been abysmal since joining us” - you couldn’t really object to that could you?😉

So if you would not personally choose the title you then make excuses for poster who did. You can't have it both ways! As an aside I thought DA erred in bringing both out of form players on. If anybody - Long.

[guest1269]

So if you would not personally choose the title you then make excuses for poster who did. You can't have it both ways! As an aside I thought DA erred in bringing both out of form players on. If anybody - Long.

You really don’t understand the concept of having it both ways do you? - does it not occur to you people are different, they behave differently under different circumstances - I’m not making excuses for anyone, simply offering an opinion on why that thread title may have been chosen. For the record I also dislike abusive songs sung by any supporters but I guess in your blindly loyal and myopic world they might be acceptable if sung by traveling cobblers fans but obviously not if sung by opposition fans.
I think a sense of perspective is required here as I’m not aware that calling someone a bellend is the worst crime in the world.

[BackOfTheNet]

I’m not aware that calling someone a bellend is the worst crime in the world.

I dunno, in these sensitive and rarified times I think it's pushing the boundaries of decency. Only yesterday someone on the Moulton community Facebook page had the audacity to say that some of the local kids were behaving like "nobs". It caused such an outcry amongst the delicate flowers that run the page the post was immediately closed to further comments and an edict issued that anyone being that rude in future would be thrown out of the group.

If someone had dropped a bellend in there I think they'd have spontaneously combusted.

[bri77]

I take more offense to a wage thief that 'appears' to not give two hoots about our club than i do a phrase that actually seems quite accurate.

[NTFC Nut]

I make no apologies for calling him a bellend. Respect works both ways and he's never shown us any, from the moment he first took to the turf at Sixfields for Scunny and baited the North Stand, to the half-arsed displays he's put in since he signed for us (on big money I might add).

[Coolcat]

I don't think the thread title goes far enough!

Expletives, like strong adjectives, serve a purpose! After all, winning a million on the lottery, a weekend with the dream girl (or guy) of your choice, following a Cobblers promotion into the championship wouldn't  expect a response of "Ooh, that's nice" any more than hearing that your whole family have gone down in an air crash...and responding "oh, how disappointing"!

So let's get Bellend removed...something a tad stronger I propose!

[JollyCobbler]

I think you are being a bit precious on this one - sure not a great title, lacking in respect and language I would not choose but remember it was posted emotionally, minutes after we had been relegated and I’m sure the poster (like anyone who saw the game) was angry at another ineffective and seemingly can’t be arsed display by KVV - I guess the title could be changed to “KVV has been abysmal since joining us” - you couldn’t really object to that could you?😉

I seem to remember you lambasting those who made personal insults against David Cardoza, right?

[Coolcat]

I seem to remember you lambasting those who made personal insults against David Cardoza, right?

Yes, but he's almost bald! 

[JollyCobbler]

Yes, but he's almost bald! 

And a c***!

[Mathius]

Given his performances, why don't we call him Kevin Un Seen?

[Coolcat]

And a c***!

I like them!