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Last season he looked like he didn't give a toss. People didn't like that about him and thought we'd be better off without him. This season he's looked bothered. People like that about him. Just like any decision people might have made in the past, when the situation changes they can change their minds. This applies in all aspects of life. Do you understand?
Can't make it clearer than that.
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Last season he looked like he didn't give a toss. People didn't like that about him and thought we'd be better off without him. This season he's looked bothered. People like that about him. Just like any decision people might have made in the past, when the situation changes they can change their minds. This applies in all aspects of life. Do you understand?
Yep - I get your drift. Personally I think that some of the original criticism at least from some was somewhat OTT. What is generally forgotten is that vV was injured at AFC and was out injured for a few games. He played well at AFC and his subsequent form deteriorated probably because he was still carrying an injury. People are entitled to change their minds; you make it all sound so easy when in some aspects of life this is not always the case. I hope you understand my point of view?
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Unfortunately I think KVV is going continually alternate between delighting and frustrating us - undoubtably a talent and at his best alway should be in the starting XI - but possibly perhaps a luxury we can’t afford.
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Unfortunately I think KVV is going continually alternate between delighting and frustrating us - undoubtably a talent and at his best alway should be in the starting XI - but possibly perhaps a luxury we can’t afford.
I remember the Skunny post saying he is either loved or not! After recent performaces that just about sums it up! For example the Chron gave him 8/10 last Sat which effectively suggests he won the match for us last Sat which is a tad debatable. Some of the more perceptive critics on here appear to have taken to him and he is probably our ace hope for achieving promotion this season. I am not sure if any of the other players have his ability and charisma except perhaps Crooks. I look upon him as an investment! You seem to be a hedge sitter.
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I remember the Skunny post saying he is either loved or not! After recent performaces that just about sums it up! For example the Chron gave him 8/10 last Sat which effectively suggests he won the match for us last Sat which is a tad debatable. Some of the more perceptive critics on here appear to have taken to him and he is probably our ace hope for achieving promotion this season. I am not sure if any of the other players have his ability and charisma except perhaps Crooks. I look upon him as an investment! You seem to be a hedge sitter.
Get his head on board and we have a chance . Without him we don’t have enough to make an impression goals wise . It’s as simple as that
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the Chron gave him 8/10 last Sat
That's where most of us stopped reading your point. Can we stick to decent sources for our comments.
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I look upon him as an investment! You seem to be a hedge sitter.
Fair comment - I just find players like that extremely frustrating - interesting, and not my words, but from Martin Smith when commentating says pretty much the same thing
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Unfortunately I think KVV is going continually alternate between delighting and frustrating us - undoubtably a talent and at his best alway should be in the starting XI - but possibly perhaps a luxury we can’t afford.
Who else is going to score the goals? Crooks has 5 but surely cannot rely on him scoring 20+?
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Who else is going to score the goals? Crooks has 5 but surely cannot rely on him scoring 20+?
Again, it is a fair question but I personally don't think it is going to be KVV - he scored 19 goals in 94 appearances for Sc***horpe - his goal to game ratio has to improve massively to achieve the 20 plus target - I'd love to be wrong but I just don't see it. Unfortunately whilst Andy William always puts in an honest shift anything more than very low double figures is likely to be wishful thinking - and then you are left with a collection of goal contributions from midfielders and defenders.
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That's where most of us stopped reading your point. Can we stick to decent sources for our comments. Actually Tel, I enjoy reading the Chrons version of the game the reporter is a paid professional sports writer! In short I often find them a reasonable accurate report of the game. I agree that some of the opinions on the game on here are informed and are always an enjoyable read. I agree tho’ that it is naive to quote the Chron on here!
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I don't bother with the Chron anymore. Too many adverts and other crap. Shame how downhill they have gone.
van Veen is on target for 15/16 goals this season. I would hope this would pick up a little in a winning confident team.
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I don't bother with the Chron anymore. Too many adverts and other crap. Shame how downhill they have gone.
van Veen is on target for 15/16 goals this season. I would hope this would pick up a little in a winning confident team.
I dont bother with the paper only the web site which is easy to access whilst on the Forum!
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Again, it is a fair question but I personally don't think it is going to be KVV - he scored 19 goals in 94 appearances for Sc***horpe - his goal to game ratio has to improve massively to achieve the 20 plus target - I'd love to be wrong but I just don't see it.
Unfortunately whilst Andy William always puts in an honest shift anything more than very low double figures is likely to be wishful thinking - and then you are left with a collection of goal contributions from midfielders and defenders.
Van Veen has 5 in 11 starts + 4 sub appearances. He's pretty close to being on track for 20 this season. I expect him to do better from here on in now the team as a whole is beginning to improve under Curle and fancy him to reach his target. Morias has only played a bit part so far, he could well weigh in when he returns and don't write off Andy Williams. His record was good in L1, unfortunately for him he missed the best part of a season due to injury so at a quick glance his stats may look a bit ropey. They're not. Certain players are beginning to play with more confidence under Curle. JJOT (now he's actually playing at full fitness), McWilliams (now he is in the team), Powell (if he is going to be get chances as a second striker especially) and Waters can all begin to contribute from here on in. Even Pierre could well get close to double figures at the rate he's going. Then of course there's Crooks. I don't think goals are going to be a problem from here on in. Also worth noting that MK have only scored 2 more goals than Cobblers and they sit in second. Yes, they've only conceded 10 in 16 so far so they can afford to not score as many, unlike our 'leaky' defence, right? However since Curle has come in we have conceded 4 in 6 (and 1 of those was a direct free-kick). That's an almost comparable record. The way things are going I fancy us to continue to be as difficult to score against as we have been in the last 6 matches, especially when Curle is able to make a couple of 'tweaks' in January.
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Time for a Van Veen hatrick me thinks........
He's here to save us. That headed assist for JJ's header last week
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Time for a Van Veen hatrick me thinks........
Any decent odds love to make a 100 or two £!
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Any decent odds love to make a 100 or two £!
Only 40/1 with Hills. I usually do it along with my other standard bet which also never comes in - BTTS in all 3pm Conference (National League games), that’s about 1200/1 this week.
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Only 40/1 with Hills. I usually do it along with my other standard bet which also never comes in - BTTS in all 3pm Conference (National League games), that’s about 1200/1 this week.
time to give up gambling i think wadey!!
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I like that the first thing KvV did after the 2nd goal went in was complain that Powell didn't square it.
Do they do retrospective red cards in L2?
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