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« Reply #360 on: June 02, 2018, 19:21:34 pm »

Mad how people choose to believe politicians.
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« Reply #361 on: June 02, 2018, 20:28:52 pm »

Mad how people choose to believe politicians.
speculators all day long😉
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« Reply #362 on: June 02, 2018, 20:37:40 pm »

Perhaps we can learn from the German 50% + 1 ownership model. I think that Supporters Trusts should have representation on the club's board but, as we know from our history, the appointed representatives have got to be up to the task.  If the Trust had a director on the board of NTFC we wouldn't be scratching around looking for basic information denied to us by both KT and the Council.  

My impression is that the Trust directors have no more information than the rest of us of the detail behind the NBC - KT impasse.  It represents a truly shoddy state of affairs.

If you follow the German model you can damn well know they have tried and tested it. 51% wouldn't be a bad model for NTFC.
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« Reply #363 on: June 02, 2018, 20:51:52 pm »

If you follow the German model you can damn well know they have tried and tested it. 51% wouldn't be a bad model for NTFC.
plenty have been saying it on here, and I am all for it myself.
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« Reply #364 on: June 02, 2018, 23:32:20 pm »

If you follow the German model you can damn well know they have tried and tested it. 51% wouldn't be a bad model for NTFC.

Who from the club would fund the purchase of the 51%?
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« Reply #365 on: June 02, 2018, 23:46:51 pm »

climbed into Cardozas bed, so nul and void as a trust.
The latest version are only a little pro kt so less likely to wear their knee pads out.
You talk some complete bollocks mate, if you are not 100% sure on what you post, you really need to be careful because someone, sometime is going to call you to account. As always, your post contain your vision of things which, most of the time, are nothing like reality.
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« Reply #366 on: June 03, 2018, 06:59:31 am »

Who from the club would fund the purchase of the 51%?
Well, there’s the key question right there. As with all of the dreaming on here, the reality presents a whole different perspective. Still the best plan on here in my view mind. Just got to figure out a way of getting our hands on the cash, lottery then?
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« Reply #367 on: June 03, 2018, 08:35:32 am »

Who from the club would fund the purchase of the 51%?

There are various ways depending on how much the club is worth. With little in the way of freehold infrastructure and a shell of an East Stand to complete the valuation shouldn't be excessive.

Community Share Issues like at FC United of Manchester are interesting.

https://communityshares.org.uk/case-studies/fc-united-0

Again I think Thomas and Bower's legacy will be measured to whom they pass the club on to and a democratic member-owned element would be positive.
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« Reply #368 on: June 03, 2018, 09:02:40 am »

You are confusing worth with price.

Worth only comes into the equation with a compulsory purchase order. Otherwise it is what the owners are prepared to sell for and any prospective buyer will pay to gain control.The two parties have to agree. It will only go to any local consortium if they make the BEST offer.To imply they should be gifted it or offered at a much reduced price is naive.
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« Reply #369 on: June 03, 2018, 09:17:12 am »

You are confusing worth with price.

Worth only comes into the equation with a compulsory purchase order. Otherwise it is what the owners are prepared to sell for and any prospective buyer will pay to gain control.The two parties have to agree. It will only go to any local consortium if they make the BEST offer.To imply they should be gifted it or offered at a much reduced price is naive.

Some fair points but I have never mentioned a "much reduced price". Thomas has said regarding a sale of the club that "We would love those conversations to be with local people" and that would obviously have to be for a fair price.

With a healthier ownership model it's likely that the stadium would be in better shape than we currently find it and the land behind in a state to provide a proper sporting and community legacy to the town.
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« Reply #370 on: June 03, 2018, 12:45:23 pm »

There are various ways depending on how much the club is worth. With little in the way of freehold infrastructure and a shell of an East Stand to complete the valuation shouldn't be excessive.

Community Share Issues like at FC United of Manchester are interesting.

https://communityshares.org.uk/case-studies/fc-united-0

Again I think Thomas and Bower's legacy will be measured to whom they pass the club on to and a democratic member-owned element would be positive.

I believe that some people are missing the key part of the 51%.  It has to be owned and run by the club, not a consortium, not a community scheme or a fan investor. Or are you talking about another 51% scheme that isn't the German model?
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« Reply #371 on: June 03, 2018, 13:34:07 pm »

NTFC AGM 10am this Tuesday, any shareholders going or NTFC Trust?
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« Reply #372 on: June 03, 2018, 13:47:53 pm »

Any news from the AGM ?
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« Reply #373 on: June 03, 2018, 14:07:30 pm »

It's not started yet.
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« Reply #374 on: June 03, 2018, 14:41:35 pm »

Any news from the AGM ?

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« Reply #375 on: June 03, 2018, 15:54:45 pm »

NTFC AGM 10am this Tuesday, any shareholders going or NTFC Trust?
Ive been invited and will attend but Im only allowed to have a pre meeting chat and leave before the secretive stuff is discussed...
I really hope they dont turn against our council in which we have to work with in the future, this in favour of the consortium who are mostly interested in  seeking unconditional land/leases/ boundaries/ other,  but nothing gaureenteed for our clubs future growth and redev... (Apologies again all guesswork and assumptions in the absence of any official statement these past near 3 years.)

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« Reply #376 on: June 03, 2018, 16:08:06 pm »

Beds - so you have non-voting shares?
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« Reply #377 on: June 03, 2018, 17:43:48 pm »

Beds - so you have non-voting shares?
I have a 50 years service thats allows me to do and say what I want shares..
Someone needs to oversee these lot😂 only joking
From what Im hearing these lot are no push overs and fully believe we have a proper progressive future..
Just keep the club and towns folk  in the loop please.
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« Reply #378 on: June 03, 2018, 18:38:16 pm »

I believe that some people are missing the key part of the 51%.  It has to be owned and run by the club, not a consortium, not a community scheme or a fan investor. Or are you talking about another 51% scheme that isn't the German model?
I'm intrigued. my understanding was that the 51% was owned by the club members - so, as long as you are allowed membership then you can purchase shares? Which means that a consortium or fan investor could run the club, as long as existing members approved. Is that how it works in Germany?
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« Reply #379 on: June 03, 2018, 20:56:42 pm »

As with any solution the German model comes with compromise and is not without problems. Still like it though.

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/Bundesliga/german-soccer-rules-50-1-fifty-plus-one-explained-466583.jsp

https://www.ft.com/content/5b6146cc-11a3-11e8-940e-08320fc2a277

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