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« Reply #140 on: May 24, 2018, 10:03:13 am »

I don't think there will be much sympathy for NTFC from the wider populace if the perception is that the club that apparently NBC wasted 10 million of it's taxpayers money on is now trying to get land for free when the council is bust.

That's how those who don't know the detail will see it.
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« Reply #141 on: May 24, 2018, 10:42:28 am »

My guess, and its only a guess, is it will be over the boundaries of the land that CDNL own and each side cant agree on the boundaries. That would make sense in respect to the council claims of the club trying to get more land if CDNL are trying to 'give up' land that they (potentially) don't own. That I would assume could then result in a new piece of land having 2 contracts.

Have the Trust seen anything that could clarify?

From the way KT worded his statement, he seems to me to be suggesting some of NTFC's boundaries need to be extended so as to match the lease CDNL own. The council are so dumb they probably consider this a land grab by NTFC.
The alternative would be for CDNL to surrender some land, so as to match the NTFC lease, and I doubt KT and co are willing to hand land back to the council, especially after paying out to wrangle control of CDNL.

Of course, all of this would become a lot clearer if one or both sides just came out and put their full deck on the table.
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« Reply #142 on: May 24, 2018, 10:50:39 am »

Can’t CDNL just sell the lease to NTFC for a £1? You are able to sell leases on.  I know it will leave ntfc with two leases that contradict each other but they can then work to resolve that and any other works on the land should be able to continue.
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« Reply #143 on: May 24, 2018, 11:04:44 am »

From the way KT worded his statement, he seems to me to be suggesting some of NTFC's boundaries need to be extended so as to match the lease CDNL own. The council are so dumb they probably consider this a land grab by NTFC.



THIS THE CLOSEST TO THE TRUTH YOU WILL GET....

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« Reply #144 on: May 24, 2018, 11:39:55 am »

From the way KT worded his statement, he seems to me to be suggesting some of NTFC's boundaries need to be extended so as to match the lease CDNL own. The council are so dumb they probably consider this a land grab by NTFC.
The alternative would be for CDNL to surrender some land, so as to match the NTFC lease, and I doubt KT and co are willing to hand land back to the council, especially after paying out to wrangle control of CDNL.

Of course, all of this would become a lot clearer if one or both sides just came out and put their full deck on the table.
In the absence of any definitive and gaureenteed benefits set in stone concrete metal and glass for the future benefits of for the Football club of Northampton and its public.. I believe the council have played a blinder.
If theres nothing in it for our club, why are we bothered about any financial benefits to be gained for speculators?
We need the supporters trust on the board that fights the clubs corner and that is objectionable.
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« Reply #145 on: May 24, 2018, 11:51:35 am »

In the absence of any definitive and gaureenteed benefits set in stone concrete metal and glass for the future benefits of for the Football club of Northampton and its public.. I believe the council have played a blinder.
If theres nothing in it for our club, why are we bothered about any financial benefits to be gained for speculators?
We need the supporters trust on the board that fights the clubs corner and that is objectionable.

Judging from your response, I doubt you read a word of what I posted.
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« Reply #146 on: May 24, 2018, 11:52:11 am »

Obviously space is at a premium in the town centre for the size of stadium that would take Saints to the next level. I'd say the benefits would outweigh the negatives for a corporate club like Saints. They played games in MK!

I think you'll find the RFU no longer permit "new" ground share arrangements with football teams so that would rule that out. I may be wrong.
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« Reply #147 on: May 24, 2018, 12:38:26 pm »

Seems we did the right thing getting out the deal with 5Usport #nopottopissin

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/agency-that-brokered-cobblers-partnership-deal-takes-chinese-firm-to-court-over-six-figure-unpaid-fee-claim-1-8509407
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« Reply #148 on: May 24, 2018, 12:42:41 pm »

Would it be too simple for the council to take back control of the leases, sell off the land for redevelopment themselves and then put some of the money into improving the facilities at Sixfields...which after all they own?

This benefits the town, taxpayers, football fans, football club and enhances their asset...namely Sixfields Stadium.

Cut out the middlemen!!
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« Reply #149 on: May 24, 2018, 12:44:58 pm »

Would it be too simple for the council to take back control of the leases, sell off the land for redevelopment themselves and then put some of the money into improving the facilities at Sixfields...which after all they own?

This benefits the town, taxpayers, football fans, football club and enhances their asset...namely Sixfields Stadium.

Cut out the middlemen!!

Sounds sensible, but also too much like hard work for a council who have shown themselves to be lazy, incompetent and completely indifferent to this whole saga (aside from the money they carelessly chucked away).
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« Reply #150 on: May 24, 2018, 12:49:35 pm »

https://www.northampton.gov.uk/downloads/file/8573/land-at-sixfields---13th-september-2013

The original land sale agreements regarding the sale to County Developments......

And for anyone not willing to trawl through the massive document.....The council sold the land for an initial £1.....the Football club relinquished control of what is basically the athletics stadium footprint to County Developments, who were planning to build up to 300 houses and provide up to 85000 square feet of retail use within the development.

Once things were underway CDNL were to pay the council a further £5 million pounds, plus half of anything over £110 million pounds that was realised from the sale of houses and shops once the project was completed.

I don't see what the football club were ever getting out of this deal.
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« Reply #151 on: May 24, 2018, 13:10:27 pm »

https://www.northampton.gov.uk/downloads/file/8573/land-at-sixfields---13th-september-2013

Once things were underway CDNL were to pay the council a further £5 million pounds, plus half of anything over £110 million pounds that was realised from the sale of houses and shops once the project was completed.

I don't see what the football club were ever getting out of this deal.
I can see what they'll be getting out of it now, though - a fair amount of land and no promise for £5M plus half of any profit over £110 million to be handed back to the Council. Which would also explain why the council are not keen to transfer everything over to the club.
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« Reply #152 on: May 24, 2018, 13:10:42 pm »

From the way KT worded his statement, he seems to me to be suggesting some of NTFC's boundaries need to be extended so as to match the lease CDNL own. The council are so dumb they probably consider this a land grab by NTFC.

This is not quite true. I have checked with KT and it is literally a case of the council having granted two leases on the same part of land. CDNL want to surrender that part of their their lease. Therefore the Club will have the ‘only’ lease on that part of the land.

The extra land comment from the council is not true.
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« Reply #153 on: May 24, 2018, 13:11:51 pm »

I’m sure this time KT and DB will sell to the right prospective owners to help build the club on and off the pitch leading to a bright future for the club blah blah blah and not just to the first people who wave a pound or yen at them!!

I’m sure of it
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« Reply #154 on: May 24, 2018, 13:19:34 pm »

KT on BBC radio Northampton yesterday.

Skip to about 2hrs 10mins

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p065z0gs
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« Reply #155 on: May 24, 2018, 13:33:37 pm »

All this crap just to complete a stand..

Send in Cecil....She'll sort it!!!!!
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« Reply #156 on: May 24, 2018, 13:36:06 pm »

Would it be too simple for the council to take back control of the leases, sell off the land for redevelopment themselves and then put some of the money into improving the facilities at Sixfields...which after all they own?

This benefits the town, taxpayers, football fans, football club and enhances their asset...namely Sixfields Stadium.

Cut out the middlemen!!

No not possible. They have issued a lease, well 2 in fact. They cannot just say we want it back.
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« Reply #157 on: May 24, 2018, 13:48:35 pm »

Could we turn the East Stand into some form of water park?
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« Reply #158 on: May 24, 2018, 13:51:56 pm »

Could we turn the East Stand into some form of water park?
Can’t we just knock it down and replace it with a series of duckboards and a bit of rope?
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« Reply #159 on: May 24, 2018, 13:52:21 pm »

As there are quite a few variations on the 'NTFC FOR SALE' thread is it possible for someone to sort out the essential points from the comments posted. Those comments which are based on a bias to either party should be ignored?
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