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Ins and Outs - Summer 2018

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« Reply #480 on: July 25, 2018, 08:13:26 am »

If Crooks ,JJOT , Taylor or McWilliams left it would be a disaster . KVV less so but would have to replace him .

i still think all 5 of these will go

i am pessimistic - but that is just what i believe


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« Reply #481 on: July 25, 2018, 08:24:11 am »

All he says is the vultures are still circling. Don't know where you get some of the players clearly want to leave out of that interview
You don’t have to listen too hard !
DA states that players are ambitious which in interview speak means they are keen to go .
KT also said players want to leave .
I also know that certain players want to leave , as do others on here .
I don’t want anyone to go and hope no one meets their valuation or wage demands but I think they will eventually .
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« Reply #482 on: July 25, 2018, 08:28:27 am »

I also know that certain players want to leave , as do others on here .

I'm sure we can guess, but can you and the others in know confirm exactly who these players are?
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« Reply #483 on: July 25, 2018, 08:29:55 am »

I thought he was hinting strongly at departures before the window's out.

Can only hope that if we lose one or two of the five, DA and KT have the resolve to draw the line and not let any more go without a ready replacement (or unless the offer really is too good to turn down).

Based on JJ's comments at the end of the season I'd still be surprised and disappointed if he left.
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« Reply #484 on: July 25, 2018, 08:58:32 am »

Didn't someone say at the start of summer that it was five who wanted out?  O Donnell/Facey/Taylor/Crooks/Van Veen
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« Reply #485 on: July 25, 2018, 09:03:38 am »

I still think they will all stay -
I dont think clubs interested are prepared to meet the valuation or the wage demand.

Look at the guy who left Aberdeen last week to sign for non league Salford. If he was available surely a league 1 or league 2 club would have looked at him. Europa League to Non League but getting paid £4k a week there.
Clubs are not prepared to take a punt on a player like KVV or Crooks with their wage demand and they dont perform
Just my opinion
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« Reply #486 on: July 25, 2018, 09:08:24 am »

Didn't someone say at the start of summer that it was five who wanted out?  O Donnell/Facey/Taylor/Crooks/Van Veen

More like, O'Donnell, Bunney, Turnbull & van Veen plus one other.
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« Reply #487 on: July 25, 2018, 09:15:52 am »

More like, O'Donnell, Bunney, Turnbull & van Veen plus one other.

McWilliams
Crooks
JJOT
Taylor
Facey

take your pick of any of those..............
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« Reply #488 on: July 25, 2018, 09:18:42 am »

Are you guys picking these players, "The Others"?

Looking for definite info from those in the know, as I have no clue.  Grin
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« Reply #489 on: July 25, 2018, 09:21:05 am »

McWilliams
Crooks
JJOT
Taylor
Facey

take your pick of any of those..............

Yes, possibly other teams want these players. I was answering the question of who wanted out at the end of last season, according to some on here.
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« Reply #490 on: July 25, 2018, 09:27:52 am »

Are you guys picking these players, "The Others"?

Looking for definite info from those in the know, as I have no clue.  Grin

No one is in the know, that's why you get different names thrown up. Facey, because he's injured so that means he must be on his way, JJOT he's on compassionate leave so he must be on his way, and it goes on like that.
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« Reply #491 on: July 25, 2018, 09:36:03 am »

Why is there always such doom and gloom supporting this club - if we’re to believe all of the speculation we could end up losing the core of our team that could (and should) get us in the playoffs minimum on the eve of the season starting. It is so frustrating that it is now 12 weeks since the end of last season and still there are supposedly vultures circling - we should really have played hardball with anyone who wanted out, telling them that they had a certain amount of time for them and their agents to work out a mutually agreeable deal and if it went past a certain deadline they would be here for the season. As it is now we’ve given them all a full preseason and expensive trip to Spain and then they could be off giving us little to no time to replace them.
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« Reply #492 on: July 25, 2018, 09:43:56 am »

Why is there always such doom and gloom supporting this club - if we’re to believe all of the speculation

speculation or expectation?
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« Reply #493 on: July 25, 2018, 09:56:53 am »

speculation or expectation?


It’s all speculation unless you or one of the other itks are prepared to divulge specifics.
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« Reply #494 on: July 25, 2018, 10:01:49 am »

From DA’s interview post Barnet , you wouldn’t hold out too much hope that we are going to keep this squad together as it stands . Someone somewhere will pay the money and clearly some of the players want to go.
If Crooks ,JJOT , Taylor or McWilliams left it would be a disaster . KVV less so but would have to replace him .

i still think all 5 of these will go

i am pessimistic - but that is just what i believe

I'd be shocked if all five left (even if replacements were brought in), but equally I think it would be a remarkable achievement by the club to keep every single one of the five from leaving this summer.

Of them, I believe JJOT is probably most at risk of being poached, given how good he was for us throughout last season and his proven class over the last few campaigns. He's everything you want in a midfielder really, and there will definitely be League One and possibly even Championship clubs sniffing around- I'd be very pleased if we can hold on to him in this transfer window.

Crooks could go, but I think, given he was our marquee signing last summer, his wages will most likely be the highest in the squad and that may put off any potential suitors. I also don't see him as a malcontent in the team- he was in and out of the side last season, and didn't perform in all but a few games to the standard we know he is capable of. I get the impression he wants to give it another go with us this season.

McWilliams is certainly a prospect but at 19, and for the money we would want  for him, I still think he's a big risk for another club. He only became a mainstay of the side at the tail end of last season, despite showing real promise for a year or so before that. I think until he's consistently shown his ability during a season, he won't be a major target for our rivals.

Taylor is certainly a capable player, but many have made the point on here that he was the linchpin of a defence which conceded more goals in League One than any other team last season- a whopping 77 in total. Hardly an attractive proposition to other clubs based on that record, however highly we think of him at the Cobblers.

KVV certainly fits the description of a wantaway but he only moved six months ago for a fee and has done diddly squat since arriving at Sixfields. Because of the wages he must be on, and his alarming loss of form since he came back from injury, I don't think he is going to be a big target for those clubs which have the financial clout to afford him in the first place.

I disagree with Boot and Shoe that it would be "a disaster" if "any" of the above five left the club this summer. I think only the loss of JJOT or Crooks falls into this bracket. It would certainly be a shame to lose McWilliams or Taylor but I do believe they are replaceable, especially if we  were to reinvest some of the fees we received for selling them. I'm ambivalent about Van Veen's potential departure, given I believe we now have  signed better options up front anyway, and he has yet to prove himself at the club. I wouldn't be averse to cashing in, but equally I can see he still has the potential to come good as a good striker for us at this level.
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« Reply #495 on: July 25, 2018, 10:06:30 am »

Fair to remember we were s*** last year. So no issue if none of the c***s leave.
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« Reply #496 on: July 25, 2018, 10:30:24 am »

Waters was subject to a bid, which is why he didn't go to Spain:

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/austin-addresses-waters-cobblers-future-after-forward-misses-out-on-spain-trip-1-8578890

Looks like it fell through?
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« Reply #497 on: July 25, 2018, 10:38:48 am »

Look at the guy who left Aberdeen last week to sign for non league Salford. If he was available surely a league 1 or league 2 club would have looked at him. Europa League to Non League but getting paid £4k a week there.

This is the key point. If we received a realistic fee, and the player earned a payrise - every single one of our players will leave (you may have one or two anomalies).

The 'I want to play at a higher level' directly translates into 'I want a payrise'. It was publicly stated that  certain players had a wage reduction following relegation, so I'd  assume all players with this clause will be looking move on to chase the highest wage possible.
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« Reply #498 on: July 25, 2018, 11:00:40 am »

This is the key point. If we received a realistic fee, and the player earned a payrise - every single one of our players will leave (you may have one or two anomalies).

The 'I want to play at a higher level' directly translates into 'I want a payrise'. It was publicly stated that  certain players had a wage reduction following relegation, so I'd  assume all players with this clause will be looking move on to chase the highest wage possible.

I’ve got no problem with any of that and I’m not naive enough to think that it won’t happen - it’s just the timing of all this that is a complete pain in the ar**. There’s been over 3 months for this to get sorted and as per usual it looks like it’s going to come down to the wire and completely disrupt our preparations/the start of the season.
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« Reply #499 on: July 25, 2018, 11:11:13 am »

It’s all speculation unless you or one of the other itks are prepared to divulge specifics.

it isn't speculation for me

i know
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