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Ins and Outs - Summer 2018

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« Reply #760 on: August 01, 2018, 16:01:55 pm »

Does anyone have a Blackpool supporting friend? Be interesting to see what they have made of Joe Bunney so far!
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« Reply #761 on: August 01, 2018, 16:14:39 pm »

Crooks would continue to train until an acceptable offer comes in. That might have happened this morning but of course there could be another explanation. Crooks for a quality winger? Yeah, I'd take that.

Bet we hear something regarding Kazim later.
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« Reply #762 on: August 01, 2018, 17:28:31 pm »

Crooks would continue to train until an acceptable offer comes in. That might have happened this morning but of course there could be another explanation. Crooks for a quality winger? Yeah, I'd take that.

Bet we hear something regarding Kazim later.

What about our other players? Will they also remain with the team until sold?
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« Reply #763 on: August 01, 2018, 18:49:39 pm »

Some interesting comments this evening from Port Vale manager Neil Aspin about his club's approach for Billy Waters. He was speaking to BBC Radio Stoke:

“It was no secret, we agreed a fee with Northampton Town for Billy Waters. He was a player I thought could do well. It was dragging on and on and you just felt there was a reluctance from Northampton to commit, so we had to move on. He was a player I expected to sign for us”


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« Reply #764 on: August 01, 2018, 18:56:33 pm »

Q: Billy Waters didn't go to Spain but has featured in the games since you returned home. Is he in your plans?

DA: We had an offer come in for Billy. We would have taken the offer but Billy didnlt feel it was right for him. I was only ever taking 20 outfield players to Spain and we already had 4 strikers going and there was the potential something might have happened with Billy while we were away. I didn't want to take him and then he had to leave and that could have left us short for the game. We have come back, he has done well and worked hard and he has done what everyone else has done and given 100% every day, that is the minimum and that is what the club and the supporters deserve. I've got a headache for Saturday because I need to pick a side from a large squad and they are all firing and Billy is part of that equation and in the squad. I will work with Billy to improve. He is my player and we have had private conversations about where we think we can work together to improve him.

Bit of a conflict. I liked Waters before he left last season. Someone who wants to prove their worth to a club can only be a good thing (hopefully)
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« Reply #765 on: August 01, 2018, 19:54:58 pm »

Worst thing about that session tonight.....we've got enough wide players!!! We've got 1?!

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« Reply #766 on: August 01, 2018, 20:03:58 pm »

Worst thing about that session tonight.....we've got enough wide players!!! We've got 1
Worst thing about that session tonight.....we've got enough wide players!!! We've got 1?!


Not strictly true. Bridge, Hoskins, Waters, Bowditch, Whaler & Roberts can play out wide plus our out and out winger Powell.


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« Reply #767 on: August 01, 2018, 20:15:52 pm »

Not the case for everyone, Wolvo. Kasim for one.
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« Reply #768 on: August 01, 2018, 20:35:26 pm »

Did anyone specifically ask about Crooks tonight?

I like Austin from what I've seen and heard so far, but if he thinks we have enough wide players, he is very wrong, we need at least 1 more.
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« Reply #769 on: August 01, 2018, 20:36:55 pm »

judge than you.Maybe, but hes a better
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« Reply #770 on: August 01, 2018, 20:44:39 pm »

Did anyone specifically ask about Crooks tonight?

I like Austin from what I've seen and heard so far, but if he thinks we have enough wide players, he is very wrong, we need at least 1 more.

Why do "we" need 1 more if DA is happy with what he has ......  Stick to playing Championship Manager and et the adults worry about the real world.
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« Reply #771 on: August 01, 2018, 20:55:37 pm »

Why do "we" need 1 more if DA is happy with what he has ......  Stick to playing Championship Manager and et the adults worry about the real world.

Try posting that on the "Where next for Jimmy?" thread, you'd be lynched!
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« Reply #772 on: August 01, 2018, 21:07:19 pm »

Some interesting comments this evening from Port Vale manager Neil Aspin about his club's approach for Billy Waters. He was speaking to BBC Radio Stoke:

“It was no secret, we agreed a fee with Northampton Town for Billy Waters. He was a player I thought could do well. It was dragging on and on and you just felt there was a reluctance from Northampton to commit, so we had to move on. He was a player I expected to sign for us”

Seems a bit contradictory, we agreed a free but were reluctant? I imagine Waters is on a decent salary when we signed him in League One, and it's unlikely Port Vale were willing to match it hence why it fell a part. Anyway, he's shown flashes of ability and reckon he'd come good this year given time.
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« Reply #773 on: August 01, 2018, 21:28:10 pm »

We have nowhere near enough quality wide .
Powell is the only naturally wide player and it depends on what side of bed he gets out of as to whether he performs .
Sounds like yet another season in which Hoskins is going to be played wide . It’s not worked yet . Waters is likely to be the same .
The problem is we can’t get churn the players we have to get others in .
If players like Waters don’t want to leave , they don’t have to .
Furthermore , we have no width from left full back either .
This side will need a few transfer windows to get balanced .
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« Reply #774 on: August 01, 2018, 21:36:54 pm »

Why do "we" need 1 more if DA is happy with what he has ......  Stick to playing Championship Manager and et the adults worry about the real world.

I think DA wants a wide man but is quite clever in his interviews. If he came out and said we were desperate for one it potentially gives the seller or the player a bit more power when negotiating costs / wages

I think we’ll see another winger, even if it’s a loan in the next few weeks
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« Reply #775 on: August 01, 2018, 21:48:46 pm »

Powell is the only naturally wide player and it depends on what side of bed he gets out of as to whether he performs .

I personally thought Foley looked reasonable as a wide player, although granted we didn't see enough of him in his "favoured" central position to determine where he looked more comfortable.
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« Reply #776 on: August 01, 2018, 21:49:27 pm »

I think DA wants a wide man but is quite clever in his interviews. If he came out and said we were desperate for one it potentially gives the seller or the player a bit more power when negotiating costs / wages

I think we’ll see another winger, even if it’s a loan in the next few weeks

Very good point, the transfer business is much more professional and discrete under Austin, hardly any leaks or rumours.
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« Reply #777 on: August 02, 2018, 07:14:01 am »

Very good point, the transfer business is much more professional and discrete under Austin, hardly any leaks or rumours.

Yes reminds me of just how bad we have been at this in the past - probably at it's worse when Martin Wilkinson had a bit of money to splash - every player we were after was common knowledge and on several occasions led to the horrible R&D set up offering a higher price simply to up the ante (Marco Gabbiadini being a prime example)
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« Reply #778 on: August 02, 2018, 08:13:11 am »

Yes reminds me of just how bad we have been at this in the past - probably at it's worse when Martin Wilkinson had a bit of money to splash - every player we were after was common knowledge and on several occasions led to the horrible R&D set up offering a higher price simply to up the ante (Marco Gabbiadini being a prime example)

I always thought Gabbiadini was a free transfer? Seems at eternity ago when we had him!
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« Reply #779 on: August 02, 2018, 08:26:32 am »

I always thought Gabbiadini was a free transfer? Seems at eternity ago when we had him!


Yes you are probably right & thinking back it may be more to do with the wages that R&D were prepared to offer - either way the more discrete approach by DA hopefully reduces the chances of either scenario - of course the downside is we are equally in the dark about what prized assets may depart.
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