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Ins and Outs - Summer 2018

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« Reply #820 on: August 03, 2018, 07:14:30 am »

I don’t mind who he tries wide unless it is Hoskins .
Hoskins has been played in that position by the last 4 managers and it hasn’t worked once that I remember.
I agree that we will be playing very narrow because there is no natural width from full back either , especially on the left . Yes, the right full backs are quicker but we will be playing 4 4 2 by the looks of it .
Once again , it depends on who stays at the club but if they all do remain , then I think Powell and Crooks will play wide .

Agreed Hoskins is ok off the bench as an impact sub but not as a starter.  is a real shame but if he worked on his finishing and final ball we would have some player on our hands.
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« Reply #821 on: August 03, 2018, 07:42:31 am »

I don’t mind who he tries wide unless it is Hoskins .
Hoskins has been played in that position by the last 4 managers and it hasn’t worked once that I remember.
I agree that we will be playing very narrow because there is no natural width from full back either , especially on the left . Yes, the right full backs are quicker but we will be playing 4 4 2 by the looks of it .
Once again , it depends on who stays at the club but if they all do remain , then I think Powell and Crooks will play wide .

powell providing natural width ahead of the more solid DB and crooks tucking in from the right allowing facey/odokkin to "bomb on" - nice

i think 10 of the 11 pick themselves - it will be interesting to see who partners williams up front
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« Reply #822 on: August 03, 2018, 07:56:43 am »

powell providing natural width ahead of the more solid DB and crooks tucking in from the right allowing facey/odokkin to "bomb on" - nice

i think 10 of the 11 pick themselves - it will be interesting to see who partners williams up front

I think he'll go with Kevin VV.
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« Reply #823 on: August 03, 2018, 08:03:46 am »

powell providing natural width ahead of the more solid DB and crooks tucking in from the right allowing facey/odokkin to "bomb on" - nice

i think 10 of the 11 pick themselves - it will be interesting to see who partners williams up front


This was exactly my thinking looking at our squad but I noticed Austin didn't mention Crooks when he listed the players who could play wide the other night. Let's see what he has up his sleeve his week.
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« Reply #824 on: August 03, 2018, 08:05:08 am »

Quite possible. I thought he was signing for someone with a contract offer we couldn't match.

Re: Moloney, I wonder if his agent was playing a bit of a game and hyped up another offer that wasn't yet concrete when negotiating with the club, only for the club to walk away. Certainly odd if he hasn't got fixed up anywhere yet.
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« Reply #825 on: August 03, 2018, 08:08:12 am »

Re: Moloney, I wonder if his agent was playing a bit of a game and hyped up another offer that wasn't yet concrete when negotiating with the club, only for the club to walk away. Certainly odd if he hasn't got fixed up anywhere yet.

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« Reply #826 on: August 03, 2018, 08:10:55 am »

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« Reply #827 on: August 03, 2018, 08:17:48 am »

Agreed Hoskins is ok off the bench as an impact sub but not as a starter.  is a real shame but if he worked on his finishing and final ball we would have some player on our hands.

I agree he's better on the bench, but disagree he's an impact player. Not sure what impact he could possibly offer?
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« Reply #828 on: August 03, 2018, 08:26:54 am »

Agreed Hoskins is ok off the bench as an impact sub but not as a starter.  is a real shame but if he worked on his finishing and final ball we would have some player on our hands.

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« Reply #829 on: August 03, 2018, 08:33:13 am »

I agree he's better on the bench, but disagree he's an impact player. Not sure what impact he could possibly offer?

Pace, he offers lots of pace, which as an impact sub after 70 mins is a great asset to have. Trouble is as others have said his final ball and finishing is more often than not dire. And he often runs with tge ball head down with no concept or idea of what is going on around him. If he sorted those issues we would have a real player, but after what 3 years here he has shown little or no improvement in these areas.
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« Reply #830 on: August 03, 2018, 08:38:43 am »

It'll be interesting to see who starts up front tomorrow, DA used Hoskins as a striker in the last few games last season and did pretty well. We probably didn't have many other options but he definitely proved he should be used up front and not on the wing.
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« Reply #831 on: August 03, 2018, 11:21:53 am »

It'll be interesting to see who starts up front tomorrow, DA used Hoskins as a striker in the last few games last season and did pretty well. We probably didn't have many other options but he definitely proved he should be used up front and not on the wing.

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« Reply #832 on: August 03, 2018, 11:23:28 am »

Hoskins is definitely an asset to us . He has to play behind the front man though .
He has played well there on many occasions but never wide .
His movement is actually very good in the centre .
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« Reply #833 on: August 03, 2018, 12:11:03 pm »

The issue with Hoskins is nobody seems to know what his best position is.




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« Reply #834 on: August 03, 2018, 12:25:37 pm »

The issue with Hoskins is nobody seems to know what his best position is.

He rarely chips in with goals or assists from out wide. His best position has to be upfront where he can utilise his pace ALA Bury away, Plymouth at home at the end of last season. Needs to work on the timing of his runs and finishing though.
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« Reply #835 on: August 03, 2018, 12:34:57 pm »

The issue with Hoskins is nobody seems to know what his best position is.






Agree his best position is behind the front man, but finishing and final ball is consistently atrocious. As my Grandad would say he lacks a football brain and often makes the wrong choices.
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« Reply #836 on: August 03, 2018, 12:37:26 pm »

He rarely chips in with goals or assists from out wide. His best position has to be upfront where he can utilise his pace ALA Bury away, Plymouth at home at the end of last season. Needs to work on the timing of his runs and finishing though.

so his best position is up front even though he doesnt make the right runs and cant finish!?
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« Reply #837 on: August 03, 2018, 13:40:25 pm »

so his best position is up front even though he doesnt make the right runs and cant finish!?


As odd as that sounds yes. It was clear that in that small sample size we saw in the last few games he was far more dangerous as a striker. He needs to develop those parts of his game because he has never really had a run up front with us (occasionally played there title winning side). We have seen over the last 2 years that he is ineffective out wide
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« Reply #838 on: August 03, 2018, 14:19:16 pm »

Not sure of the figures, but isnt it something like 160 odd games and less than 20 goals, not very good for somebody to be considered as a forward. He best place i feel is on the bench at best.
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« Reply #839 on: August 03, 2018, 14:35:33 pm »

He's just not very good. I'd love him to have a successful season but can't see it myself. Certainly am hoping that he's worked on his finishing over the summer.
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