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Ins and Outs - Summer 2018

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« Reply #840 on: August 03, 2018, 14:38:57 pm »

Not sure of the figures, but isnt it something like 160 odd games and less than 20 goals, not very good for somebody to be considered as a forward. He best place i feel is on the bench at best.

Probably unfair to judge him by goal scoring stats when he's never really been given a run of games up front. Over half of those 160+ have been out wide I would think.

I've no strong feelings either way about Hoskins but I do think his pace and work rate can be useful. I think he is lost out wide, should be played up front or of another striker only if he's going to play. Maybe with a run of games up front his finishing may improve.
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« Reply #841 on: August 03, 2018, 14:49:55 pm »

Everyone has a clean slate under Austin, so let's enjoy some front foot football, rather than the dross served up under RP, JED & JFH

Players will hopefully flourish with their shackles taken off by DA

Win some/lose some playing attacking entertaining football is all I want to see...

Hopefully, Andy Todd will have a big impact on our defensive until this season too

I'm really looking forward to the season, whole vibe seems so much more united & professional

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« Reply #842 on: August 03, 2018, 18:25:29 pm »

Everyone has a clean slate under Austin, so let's enjoy some front foot football, rather than the dross served up under RP, JED & JFH

Players will hopefully flourish with their shackles taken off by DA

Win some/lose some playing attacking entertaining football is all I want to see...

Hopefully, Andy Todd will have a big impact on our defensive until this season too

I'm really looking forward to the season, whole vibe seems so much more united & professional

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« Reply #843 on: August 03, 2018, 19:26:16 pm »

Not sure of the figures, but isnt it something like 160 odd games and less than 20 goals, not very good for somebody to be considered as a forward. He best place i feel is on the bench at best.

Hoskins has 13 goals in 102 appearances for us. Not great for an attacking player.
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« Reply #844 on: August 03, 2018, 21:33:36 pm »

The update is ...... no one has left . Confirmed .
We are holding on .
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« Reply #845 on: August 03, 2018, 21:43:52 pm »

I mean, I think we knew that.
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« Reply #846 on: August 03, 2018, 22:50:19 pm »

Rumour - McWilliams to Norwich & Crooks to Sunderland
Rumour - They are now staying and the source has left the building. This is all supposedly true unless threeinabed says otherwise
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« Reply #847 on: August 03, 2018, 22:57:54 pm »

Pace, he offers lots of pace

Don't agree with that at all. Can't remember him ever beating his man, or breaking away from a pursuing defender with a burst of pace.

He's got a lot of energy though, and does a lot of pressing. Type of player that's useful for tough away fixtures, but doesn't offer any real attacking threat really.
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« Reply #848 on: August 03, 2018, 23:09:16 pm »

I mean, I think we knew that.
We are not out of the woods yet but so far so good .
The offers are not high enough ....
fair play to KT on this
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« Reply #849 on: August 03, 2018, 23:12:06 pm »

Don't agree with that at all. Can't remember him ever beating his man, or breaking away from a pursuing defender with a burst of pace.

He's got a lot of energy though, and does a lot of pressing. Type of player that's useful for tough away fixtures, but doesn't offer any real attacking threat really.

I take it you r a regular supporter; I can remember Hoskins leaving his man for dead quite a few times last season. Shrewsbury, Bury and Bradford(a) for a start. Would have thought his main strength was his pace!
It’s his final pass which lets him down!
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« Reply #850 on: August 04, 2018, 00:03:05 am »

I take it you r a regular supporter; I can remember Hoskins leaving his man for dead quite a few times last season. Shrewsbury, Bury and Bradford(a) for a start. Would have thought his main strength was his pace!
It’s his final pass which lets him down!

Agree with Evers.

His pace is his main asset....If only he could sort that finishing and killer pass out.
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« Reply #851 on: August 04, 2018, 05:51:16 am »

New member here, so hello to all.

Seems to me that the less thinking time Hoskins has, the more effective the end product is.
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« Reply #852 on: August 04, 2018, 06:48:30 am »

I take it you r a regular supporter; I can remember Hoskins leaving his man for dead quite a few times last season. Shrewsbury, Bury and Bradford(a) for a start. Would have thought his main strength was his pace!
It’s his final pass which lets him down!

Agree with nevers 😲 it's his final ball/ shot which hits the corner flag / run head down into a blind alley that let's him down time and time again
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« Reply #853 on: August 04, 2018, 08:25:52 am »

Don't agree with that at all. Can't remember him ever beating his man, or breaking away from a pursuing defender with a burst of pace.

He's got a lot of energy though, and does a lot of pressing. Type of player that's useful for tough away fixtures, but doesn't offer any real attacking threat really.

I've always thought this. Looks faster because he's small and absolutely full of energy. Never outpaces a fullback though.
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« Reply #854 on: August 04, 2018, 08:40:29 am »

..............Never outpaces a fullback though.
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Thought you went to most games?
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« Reply #855 on: August 04, 2018, 08:49:30 am »

Always remember Hoskins performance (prior to his long term injury) in the otherwise woeful display v Scum away when we lost 3-0 (When Byrom was hung out to dry by RP)

Hoskins display that evening was immense.....by far the best player on the pitch playing just behind the striker(s) (can't remember if we had any that night!)

If he can replicate anywhere near that form, then he'll be a real asset (remember, this is the first proper pre season he's had since that injury)

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« Reply #856 on: August 04, 2018, 08:50:06 am »

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Thought you went to most games?

I do, hence why I'm getting more miserable as each year passes.
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« Reply #857 on: August 04, 2018, 09:05:51 am »

You can't fault Hoskins for effort - he epitomized the new mood under Austin and the performance against Plymouth stands out. That type of battle he shows will get him a long way and I don't think you can solely look at his goal scoring stats for reasons to include him. Big John Gayle was never prolific (and obviously a completely different player!) but the amount of goals he made for others who found space because of his presence was unquestionable.

Hoskins brings in others in the completely opposite way and I'm convinced he has goals in him but his work for the team shouldn't be overlooked.

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« Reply #858 on: August 04, 2018, 11:23:18 am »

Always remember Hoskins performance (prior to his long term injury) in the otherwise woeful display v Scum away when we lost 3-0 (When Byrom was hung out to dry by RP)

Hoskins display that evening was immense.....by far the best player on the pitch playing just behind the striker(s) (can't remember if we had any that night!)

If he can replicate anywhere near that form, then he'll be a real asset (remember, this is the first proper pre season he's had since that injury)



Agreed. He stood out that night although to be fair all his team mates stood out for different reasons.
He scored 8 goals in the championship season.
Victim of not quite being a centre forward, winger or a midfielder.
That said a succession of managers appear to rate him.
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« Reply #859 on: August 04, 2018, 12:02:24 pm »

Hoskins had a great run when he had a free role just behind the front man. He draws fouls and I imagine defenders don't like playing against him when he's running towards goal. He just doesn't do it enough, especially when he's out wide
He also did well as a lone striker at the end of last season. A bit of confidence after a couple of pre season goals could be what he needed and I think he could be a key player this season. I hope be starts today up top with Williams
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