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Ins and Outs - Summer 2018

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« Reply #860 on: August 04, 2018, 12:13:00 pm »

He's also still a year younger than O'Toole was when he signed for us, so still a couple of years from reaching his peak.
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« Reply #861 on: August 04, 2018, 12:28:02 pm »

You can't fault Hoskins for effort - he epitomized the new mood under Austin and the performance against Plymouth stands out. That type of battle he shows will get him a long way and I don't think you can solely look at his goal scoring stats for reasons to include him. Big John Gayle was never prolific (and obviously a completely different player!) but the amount of goals he made for others who found space because of his presence was unquestionable.

Hoskins brings in others in the completely opposite way and I'm convinced he has goals in him but his work for the team shouldn't be overlooked


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« Reply #862 on: August 04, 2018, 12:37:27 pm »

I do, hence why I'm getting more miserable as each year passes.

So you must have seen Hoskins outpace every living thing on the field; without any outcome tho! Good example of that was at Walsall when he came on for Crooks . Even at Bradford when the pidgeons cleared out the way. Still another mans view point.....................
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« Reply #863 on: August 04, 2018, 12:39:50 pm »

So you must have seen Hoskins outpace every living thing on the field; without any outcome tho! Good example of that was at Walsall when he came on for Crooks . Even at Bradford when the pidgeons cleared out the way. Still another mans view point.....................

Nah, never see him outpace any full backs. He tries hard though.
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« Reply #864 on: August 04, 2018, 19:18:55 pm »

Hoskins had a great run when he had a free role just behind the front man. He draws fouls and I imagine defenders don't like playing against him when he's running towards goal. He just doesn't do it enough, especially when he's out wide
He also did well as a lone striker at the end of last season. A bit of confidence after a couple of pre season goals could be what he needed and I think he could be a key player this season. I hope be starts today up top with Williams

Exactly this. I really like Sammy but I've often said your best bet when he's running with the ball is for him to be brought down as he's unlikely to score himself. If he could just add a touch of composure to his game he'd be a hell of a player.

It's worth remembering that Hoskins has now played under 5 different managers for us (I think) and they've all had him in or around the squad when he's available. Granted, 3 of those managers were really poor for us, but I'd venture they all still know a thing or two more about what makes a good player than most of us armchair experts!
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« Reply #865 on: August 04, 2018, 20:26:58 pm »

Its because he has got legs and granted it gets you out of trouble but if D.A keeps playing him then fook me i cant watch anymore. he just isn't a winger and should only be played up front if there is no other option.


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terrible figures really.

Dean Austin has really let himself down today - and to top if off used 2 subs out of 3 in 30 degree heat. KVV or Waters must be both be on there way out or Austin is simply clueless.
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« Reply #866 on: August 04, 2018, 20:47:52 pm »

Overall a well reasoned argument.The comments re Hoskins are spot on. He has only one possible position and thats playing off a lone striker.  I think the clueless comment just lets it down.

DA, in my opinion,got it wrong today. The forced substitution with Bridge playing behind the striker was very strange. Bridge to my eyes does not look like a league footballer. If John Joe was to be moved back a more natural forward surely had to take his place.If Walters and KVV were not considered we may as well take any offer we can get as they have no future here. I agree that in that heat we should have used our substitutions more.  To wait until approx 75 mins was quite frankly surprising. I thought Bowditch . with fresh legs , did well when coming on.

Overall however far better than last year. They are 3rd favorites for the title. As long as we learn from this we will not be far away.

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« Reply #867 on: August 05, 2018, 13:56:31 pm »

It's been a long time since we've had so few loan players at the club- just the one, in fact.

Given what many have been saying about the need for a new attacking player, I wonder if we get Kasim or Coddington off the wage bill and sign a winger from a Prem club on loan? Worth a punt I think.
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« Reply #868 on: August 05, 2018, 14:23:52 pm »

Nah, never see him outpace any full backs. He tries hard though.

In the Chron report it said he outpaced the Lincoln defence ,  who admittedly were not exactly pacy! Still I did have anti glare glasses on so obviously mistook our speedy winger for our right back Roll Eyes
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« Reply #869 on: August 05, 2018, 14:34:12 pm »

Goff has gone to Banbury on loan.
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« Reply #870 on: August 05, 2018, 15:24:05 pm »

Goff has gone to Banbury on loan.
I’d hoped our young players would get a loan to a higher level than that
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« Reply #871 on: August 05, 2018, 15:31:41 pm »

Plenty argued that he should be starting for us.. Our fans!
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« Reply #872 on: August 05, 2018, 16:05:55 pm »

That may possibly show how much people rate Cornell  Grin
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« Reply #873 on: August 05, 2018, 16:15:07 pm »

I don't greatly rate Cornell.
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« Reply #874 on: August 05, 2018, 16:38:43 pm »

I’d hoped our young players would get a loan to a higher level than that

Does make you wonder why we put a lot of emphasis on playing the youngsters in pre season when it’s obvious they are nowhere near the first team.

Shouldn’t we have been close to the ‘first 11’ by the last pre-season friendly? As it was only 2 of the starters for the Man U game started yesterday.
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« Reply #875 on: August 05, 2018, 16:53:06 pm »

Crooks to Rovrum latest rumour...
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« Reply #876 on: August 05, 2018, 16:57:16 pm »

I like how he's described as a defensive midfielder!
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« Reply #877 on: August 05, 2018, 18:11:23 pm »

I suspect that the next few days are likely to be pretty eventful - quite why clubs leave it until the last minute when they've had 3 months to sort things out is beyond me.
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« Reply #878 on: August 05, 2018, 18:14:23 pm »

Does make you wonder why we put a lot of emphasis on playing the youngsters in pre season when it’s obvious they are nowhere near the first team.

Shouldn’t we have been close to the ‘first 11’ by the last pre-season friendly? As it was only 2 of the starters for the Man U game started yesterday.
I agree with this . Our pre season was powder puff .
No consistent eleven selected and no real challenge in terms of opposition.
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« Reply #879 on: August 05, 2018, 18:36:51 pm »

Shouldn’t we have been close to the ‘first 11’ by the last pre-season friendly? As it was only 2 of the starters for the Man U game started yesterday.

DA said the MU game would be a game for those who did not get minutes vs. Barnet, rather than a match for close to a first XI (rightly or wrongly).
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