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« Reply #160 on: August 11, 2018, 18:23:43 pm »

You seem a bit odd to me. There again you're not the only one.
Seems a bit #Frank to me.
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« Reply #161 on: August 11, 2018, 18:24:46 pm »

You seem a bit odd to me. There again you're not the only one.

Speaking of odd, there were a couple of very dubious characters amongst our contingent today.

In particular the girls the back  who kept shouting “F@cking sort it out Austin” / “Get f@cking Waters on Austin” ON REPEAT and on on her own for at least half hour. Then within 5 minutes of Billy’s introduction was wailing “F@cking attack Waters” / “Find some f@cking space Waters”. An absolute disgrace throughout.
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« Reply #162 on: August 11, 2018, 18:27:03 pm »

Seems a bit #Frank to me.

That's what I thought too, #Frank and others.
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« Reply #163 on: August 11, 2018, 18:34:05 pm »

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Speaking of odd, there were a couple of very dubious characters amongst our contingent today.

In particular the girls the back  who kept shouting “F@cking sort it out Austin” / “Get f@cking Waters on Austin” ON REPEAT and on on her own for at least half hour. Then within 5 minutes of Billy’s introduction was wailing “F@cking attack Waters” / “Find some f@cking space Waters”. An absolute disgrace throughout.

Sounds like someone I had the misfortune to sit near at a home checkatrade trophy game last season. Shouted abuse at players for no clear reason throughout the first half, luckily she moved somewhere else at half time.

I wonder sometimes why they bother going or maybe they're just a bit simple and don't know any better.
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« Reply #164 on: August 11, 2018, 18:34:16 pm »

Thought Williams did well today and had a big hand in both the goals. Not sure I would have taken him off.

442 definitely caused Crooks and JJOT some problems in midfield where we were left exposed a few times defensively. Both look much better in a three. And with the wide players still seemingly given licence to push on the full backs were exposed in this system too.

Odoffin had a torrid time today. They clearly targetted him second half.

Bowditch was brilliant for about 5 minutes when he came on, then totally disappeared again. I’m starting to notice this as a pattern with him.

Van Veen saying he is too good for this league and will score 20 goals this year. Great, now stop talking a good game and start producing it for us.
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« Reply #165 on: August 11, 2018, 18:47:32 pm »

I’d like to see both goals and the early shot again.

I can only really remember them hitting three shots of note in the game, all from outside/edge of box. One hit the inside of the post, the other two went in.

It is possible that they were all very well struck and right in the corners, but Cornell has got substantial form for getting nowhere near shots three feet inside the posts.

He was credited with a save for the one that hit the post I think. Martin Smith was pretty positive about him on the wireless and didn’t lay any fault with him for the goals.

I remain unconvinced by Cornell but I don’t think he’s harmed himself (or us) yet this season.
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« Reply #166 on: August 11, 2018, 18:48:01 pm »

Cornell has got substantial form for getting nowhere near shots three feet inside the posts.

He's never a #1 keeper. No idea why he started the season in the XI.
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« Reply #167 on: August 11, 2018, 18:58:37 pm »

Erm...it is only the second game. I don't really care what Martin Smith says, I know he was a great player, but I'll go by what I see in the games that I watch.

His assessments of us were pretty much spot on last year imo
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« Reply #168 on: August 11, 2018, 19:07:52 pm »

He's never a #1 keeper. No idea why he started the season in the XI.

Agree completely,  he or Hoskins should be nowhere near our me first 11. I've said tgat for 2 years plus now, while they are we will finish bottom half - FACT
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« Reply #169 on: August 11, 2018, 19:10:50 pm »

Did I hear that right? Taylor takes the free kick on edge of box....

This was an embarrassment  Embarrassed Grin
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« Reply #170 on: August 11, 2018, 19:35:26 pm »

This was an embarrassment  Embarrassed Grin

I remember Steve Terry taking them on a regular basis..jury is out still... Grin
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« Reply #171 on: August 11, 2018, 19:42:56 pm »

This was an embarrassment  Embarrassed Grin

The set pieces aren't exactly up to the Alan knill standard are they?!
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« Reply #172 on: August 11, 2018, 19:56:32 pm »

It is safe to say the set pieces are a problem  Grin I expect to see Cornell take throw ins next week.
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« Reply #173 on: August 11, 2018, 20:03:14 pm »

It is safe to say the set pieces are a problem  Grin I expect to see Cornell take throw ins next week.

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« Reply #174 on: August 11, 2018, 20:09:33 pm »

Agree completely,  he or Hoskins should be nowhere near our me first 11. I've said tgat for 2 years plus now, while they are we will finish bottom half - FACT

I’m not sure an opinion can be FACT no matter how much you want it to be. That said I’m pretty much in agreement with you, if Hoskins and Cornell start most of our games I’d predict mid table at best.
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« Reply #175 on: August 11, 2018, 20:34:55 pm »

I’m not sure an opinion can be FACT no matter how much you want it to be. That said I’m pretty much in agreement with you, if Hoskins and Cornell start most of our games I’d predict mid table at best.

It's fact because it will happen if we persevere with players that are simply not good enough
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« Reply #176 on: August 11, 2018, 21:26:59 pm »

Not the best of starts id like to have seen for a season but i'm still believing.
To be fair, i looked a the highlights and it seems as if the 2 goals you guys conceded were slightly unlucky. A 30 yard peach and a quick shot that was probably a good finish, lucky for them, unlucky for you guys sort of thing.

Stats say you dominated the first week and lost and did ok today and drew... but it was away from home so hardly a bad result..

from your opinions i'm guessing you'll be happy when Facey comes back in !
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« Reply #177 on: August 11, 2018, 21:36:05 pm »

Defensively as a unit very poor.
In addition, Sheridan obviously instructed their players to shoot at every opportunity to expose Cornell's frailties. Also to target Odoffin.
On the plus side, Van Veen and Williams both had good games. Bowditch again looked a threat when he came on.

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« Reply #178 on: August 11, 2018, 21:38:20 pm »

You seem a bit odd to me. There again you're not the only one.

Everyone is odd in there own way, you are odd to me. I don't hold it against you though.
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« Reply #179 on: August 11, 2018, 21:45:36 pm »

Well today was everything that I love and hate about the Cobblers.

First half - we were pretty abject until we scored. Infact I feared the worst when we went 1-0 down with chants of “what the fxxxng hell is this?” Our equaliser was well worked by Williams’s and a first goal for Van Veen to hopefully kick start his Cobblers career. The first half whistle came too soon as we started to impose ourselves after the equaliser with confidence returning.

Second half - started really well, played some great stuff and fully deserved our goal. The equaliser was the typical “most vulnerable after you score” situation where we switched off.

However from this point what frustrated me most was Dean Austin making those substitutions. Bowditch for Powell was baffling as we had been completely on top and a substitution definitely wasn’t needed. The goal we conceded was a sucker punch and he should of left the players to see if they could respond, taking Powell off when he had been getting some joy down the left made no sense (as a side note, Bowditch looks a better footballer at this level than at league one but he certainly is no wide player). What made less sense was taking Williams off for Billy Waters. I like Billy but in the second half Williams and Van Veen complimented each other well and held up, distributed, headed on and moved well in equal measure. Waters did precisely nothing.

As a result of the equaliser but more (in my opinion) down the substitutions disrupting the team direction, we lost our way and despite a few half chances, Carlisle looked like they would snatch an unlikely winner. However everyone sees the game differently - whilst walking to my car, I heard some Carlisle fans saying “that was 2 points dropped”! Overall, I think a draw was a fair result based on both teams having solid periods on top.

Going through the team, Cornell was OK - nothing more nothing less, I can’t see him winning is many points and worryingly I can see him costing us points. Surely can’t be the number one?

Odoffin - terrible. I don’t rate him at all. Poor positioning, poor distribution, no great surprise that Carlisle targeted that side consistently. Need Facey back ASAP!

Taylor - a rock, wins almost everything in the air, a leader, passionate. Yes, he doesn’t have the best distribution and has limited pace but I hope he remains with us for the rest of his career. A great lower division player.

Pierre - a poor mans Taylor, just without the passion but a little more pace.

Buchs - solid. A lot goes through him and he has a steadiness to him and the back line.

Hoskins - really didn’t see much of the ball, got in a few times around the back. Problem was that when we lack confidence and have our backs to the game, we tend to send diagonal balls to him which he’ll never win due to his size. I would question if Bowditch may play a more effective role on this side, particularly away from home when we need someone who can hold the ball and play in from the flanks.

Powell - had a good early chance that he steered wide, played well when the team played well. As above, shocked he was taken off.

Crookes - as we know, a massively frustrating player to watch. Looks disinterested so much of the time but has natural ability. Needs someone very industrious next to him to allow him freedom - JJ is not that man.

JJOT - I love the guy but a rigid centre mid position is not his role, particularly with someone like Crookes along side him. Distributed the ball well but rarely able to get forward to be effective.

Williams - was really impressed with him. Good work rate, has the ability to beat a man and will certainly score goals this season. Again, ridiculous decision to sub him for the ineffective Waters.

Van Veen - Star Man - was excellent, everything people said he wasn’t. Worked hard for the team, chased things down, held the ball well, ran with it, created chances. Led by example. Really massively impressed and I have changed my opinion on him. Took his goal well.
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