Unsettling the U's - Saturday 18 August

[Irchy cob]

We’ll never have a better chance than the next 2 games - Cambridge and morecambe - anything less than 4 points (ideally 6) would be a poor return. Having said that like others have pointed out Cambridge are a bit of a bogey team for us.

[threeinabed]

It has to be difficult when you've seen little to no game time and you are then thrown in for 90 minutes. If he were to start the next 2 or 3 in centre midfield that would be the time to fairly judge him I think.

crooks was MOM first game of the season in centre mid!? that wasn't after a run of games.

foley has never looked good enough when he has played - and the fact he is constantly running in treacle probably doesn't help him.

[EssTeeFree]

crooks was MOM first game of the season in centre mid!? that wasn't after a run of games.

foley has never looked good enough when he has played - and the fact he is constantly running in treacle probably doesn't help him.

To be fair, someone had to be MOTM first game and whoever it was would have been without a run of games 

Point is, every player is different. I have no idea if Foley needs games to get up to speed or he simply isn't good enough. All I am saying is that I think we could all be a little more nuanced in our judgements sometimes, just because player A is fine being in and out of the team/ constantly changing position doesn't mean player B will. In fact since you mentioned Crooks he was called out on here (by Drilling I think) as someone who takes time to get back into his stride after being out of the side be it through injuries or suspension. What if he only got that one game and was back out of the side?

It is very possible that Foley just aint good enough, I've not been campaigning to get him in the side or anything like that. I just thinking writing him off as not good enough in central midfield when he's never been given a couple of games in succession to impress is possibly a little unfair.

[Dan]

I fully respect and appreciate your point of view EssTeeFree. No question that he deserves support if he is playing. But he has played for us 24 times and I think that's enough game time to form an opinion on his capabilities. For me he's a lower league 2 player at best. I'll not be disappointed if he doesn't start a league game this season.

[EssTeeFree]

Get what your saying but how many of those 24 games were successive games in the same position?

Like I said I'm not campaigning for him to play ahead of Crooks, McWilliams or O'Toole just think its harsh he's written off when circumstances mean he's not had a proper chance (in my mind).

Anyway, like you say, as long as they are supported while on the pitch it doesn't really matter. Onward to Saturday!

[NorthernCobbler78]

I am afraid Foley had a disappointing  game last night and looks miles off what is required in L2; for us that is!

How are people judging Foley off one game in his actual position?! Players like Hoskins, Powell, Van Veen have had more chances and failed to deliver yet no one is saying they aren’t good enough for this team. Perhaps if the manager gave him a run in the team we might see the player that played every game getting Yeovil promoted to the Championship.

[GrangeParkCobbler]

Whenever I've seen Foley he has seemed to put the effort in but is definitely limited.......but how many players have we got like that? Powell, Hoskins for example.

But isn't that why we are where we are? If these players were quality they either would be with us and we'd be in a higher league....or they wouldn't be with us at all!!

We are a league 2 side with a number of limited and inconsistent players......Foley is just one of them. I can only surmise that the past three managers have not liked what they've seen from him in training as he's never been selected for that run of games has he?

[NorthernCobbler78]

Whenever I've seen Foley he has seemed to put the effort in but is definitely limited.......but how many players have we got like that? Powell, Hoskins for example.

But isn't that why we are where we are? If these players were quality they either would be with us and we'd be in a higher league....or they wouldn't be with us at all!!

We are a league 2 side with a number of limited and inconsistent players......Foley is just one of them. I can only surmise that the past three managers have not liked what they've seen from him in training as he's never been selected for that run of games has he?

This is spot on...he was injured under Justin and having played for him before at newport I would think he would have played had Justin stayed in charge. JFH played him in every position apart from centre-mid and as someone said before, never consecutive games. After an injury a player always needs a run of games to get match sharpness back and he hasn’t been afforded that since he got injured playing for us.

[guest3230]

How are people judging Foley off one game in his actual position?! Players like Hoskins, Powell, Van Veen have had more chances and failed to deliver yet no one is saying they aren’t good enough for this team. Perhaps if the manager gave him a run in the team we might see the player that played every game getting Yeovil promoted to the Championship.

Hoskins isn't good enough, never will be.  Powell is good when he is on it but that is quite rare. KVV clearly has the ability and seems to have his mind right at last.

[pattcobb]

Not desperate for a win, but need a win if anything to settle the team, the supporters and the management down. Maybe they can then say " well we played poorly but won" or even "we were the better team and the result proved it" instead of how great we were at Wycombe/Carlisle/Lincoln when clearly we weren't. Most supporters will soon see through this from DA (many of us are not stupid) and an "us and them" situation will soon surface.

[Dan]

How are people judging Foley off one game in his actual position?! Players like Hoskins, Powell, Van Veen have had more chances and failed to deliver yet no one is saying they aren’t good enough for this team. Perhaps if the manager gave him a run in the team we might see the player that played every game getting Yeovil promoted to the Championship.

You're joking right 

[Ron Obvious]

Foley is a decent player. He's no Jon Joe but he also isn't carrying an injury. Playing injured players smacks of desperation by Austin. I could understand it if it was the other end of the season and we were in a battle to stay up or go up but the second game of the season when we have other options, bad move all round.

Foley should continue until Jon Joe is fully fit.

[GrangeParkCobbler]

Am surprised the U's haven't sold out yet.....only given the South Stand.

also of note is that their travel club is charging £21 for the coach.....from Cambridge to Northampton.....£21

[Coolcat]

Am surprised the U's haven't sold out yet.....only given the South Stand.

also of note is that their travel club is charging £21 for the coach.....from Cambridge to Northampton.....£21

A Stagecoach Gold Dayrider will see you from Cambridge to Sixfields and back for £15! 

[everbrite]

How are people judging Foley off one game in his actual position?! Players like Hoskins, Powell, Van Veen have had more chances and failed to deliver yet no one is saying they aren’t good enough for this team. Perhaps if the manager gave him a run in the team we might see the player that played every game getting Yeovil promoted to the Championship.

On Foley:  Don’t take forum opinions at face value! For instance I used the adj. ‘disappointed’ some who were there felt the same or worse. DA thought he was outstanding! Have you read the Chrons ratings on the game? I have seen Foley play a much tidier game for us than last night; so he can do better. As pointed out earlier he has had sufficient games to convince fans he is the answer. Both you and I know he has not impressed sufficiently to be a first name on the team sheet. Playing him in his preferred position is all very well but if you have adequate footballing skills it generally becomes apparent even if you are out of position. This is not a ‘Patmore’ type of criticism and I don’t agree with some of the harsher statements made by some on here.

[everbrite]

Foley is a decent player. He's no Jon Joe but he also isn't carrying an injury. Playing injured players smacks of desperation by Austin. I could understand it if it was the other end of the season and we were in a battle to stay up or go up but the second game of the season when we have other options, bad move all round.

Foley should continue until Jon Joe is fully fit.

We know all that ! However it is easy to agree that if JJOT is not fit then Foley might even could/should replace him. However Managers say one thing and do the opposite; so it would not surprise me to see Foley on the bench which is a little strange after DA's comments on him post WW. If he plays in the CM role and has a blinder and relegates JJOT to the bench then grins alround. I like the suggestion by one expert on here to play Crooks on the wing (devastating at Walsall!) as he can generally pass/cross better than what we have got at the moment.

[GrangeParkCobbler]

We know all that ! However it is easy to agree that if JJOT is not fit then Foley could even could/should replace him. However Managers say one thing and do the opposite; so it would not surprise me to see Foley on the bench which is a little strange after DA's comments on him post WW. If he plays in the CM role and has a blinder and relegates JJOT to the bench then grins alround. I like the suggestion by one expert on here to play Crooks on the wing (devastating at Walsall!) as he can generally pass/cross better than what we have got at the moment.

Devastating? Hang on a minute.....we lost 0-1......how was he devastating?! In fact he was so devastating that Austin took him off!!

[everbrite]

Devastating? Hang on a minute.....we lost 0-1......how was he devastating?! In fact he was so devastating that Austin took him off!!

Happy to amend that adj. Always wanted to use Devastating as a positive for a Cobblers player! Should imagine that Walsalls left back was left pretty dizzy after that display. DA took him off for GKW. Please suggest best appropriate adj for Crooks performance that day.

[GrangeParkCobbler]

Happy to amend that adj. Always wanted to use Devastating as a positive for a Cobblers player! Should imagine that Walsalls left back was left pretty dizzy after that display. DA took him off for GKW. Please suggest best appropriate adj for Crooks performance that day.

erm.......good!

[Clarity]

Devastating? Hang on a minute.....we lost 0-1......how was he devastating?! In fact he was so devastating that Austin took him off!!

Off because of tight hamstring and didn’t play against Oldaham the following week. He was brilliant until taken off