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« on: October 07, 2018, 23:57:29 pm »

So, I have read absolute blither from folk who have clearly never seen beyond their beer-bellies.

Hoskins does, repeat DOES see what is happening around him.

He does look up.

He is aware.

But, when you are a few paces quicker than everyone else, do the REST OF YOUR TEAM react properly?

If he buried every half-chance that the mithering millions complain about...... he would be in Barcelona's side ahead of Messi.

I have seen quality professionals booed out of Northampton Town, who have then gone on to be "successes" beyond our wildest dreams.

Please don't make Hoskins the next who goes on to a higher level on a free & p1sses over our dreams.

As I've said in a previous post, which may have been deleted by the mods, you guys are f3333333  ffff  5  23 4qwubq;o 8f7[A9SUWQEI V;/O
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2018, 05:51:18 am »

How many goals has he scored in how many games?Huh??
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2018, 06:58:05 am »

OMG. Great post Crutchless. I was beginning to think I was the only one!! Hoskins is so stand out because he is so different! He is 2 yards quicker than his team mates. He looks for and finds space. He takes people on. Yes his finishing is appalling but nothing that some good coaching and CONFIDENCE couldn’t solve. I have a ST in the upper West and when ever I say something positive / encouraging about the lad I get daggers and looks of sympathy for my clearly unbalanced mental state.  He will come good in this crappy division but I’m guessing we won’t get too many apologies on this Board when he does? So, if your real Cobblers fans then get behind him not on him! UTC
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2018, 07:00:30 am »

Clearly meant “you’re”. It must be my mental state?!? Happy for my view to be knocked but not my spelling!
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2018, 10:52:25 am »

So, I have read absolute blither from folk who have clearly never seen beyond their beer-bellies.

Hoskins does, repeat DOES see what is happening around him.

He does look up.

He is aware.

But, when you are a few paces quicker than everyone else, do the REST OF YOUR TEAM react properly?

If he buried every half-chance that the mithering millions complain about...... he would be in Barcelona's side ahead of Messi.

I have seen quality professionals booed out of Northampton Town, who have then gone on to be "successes" beyond our wildest dreams.

Please don't make Hoskins the next who goes on to a higher level on a free & p1sses over our dreams.

As I've said in a previous post, which may have been deleted by the mods, you guys are f3333333  ffff  5  23 4qwubq;o 8f7[A9SUWQEI V;/O

Quite right - and as I have said several times - it is Hoskins who features post match as the player that most worried the opposition

 
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2018, 10:53:03 am »

So, I have read absolute blither from folk who have clearly never seen beyond their beer-bellies.

Hoskins does, repeat DOES see what is happening around him.

He does look up.

He is aware.

But, when you are a few paces quicker than everyone else, do the REST OF YOUR TEAM react properly?

If he buried every half-chance that the mithering millions complain about...... he would be in Barcelona's side ahead of Messi.

I have seen quality professionals booed out of Northampton Town, who have then gone on to be "successes" beyond our wildest dreams.

Please don't make Hoskins the next who goes on to a higher level on a free & p1sses over our dreams.

As I've said in a previous post, which may have been deleted by the mods, you guys are f3333333  ffff  5  23 4qwubq;o 8f7[A9SUWQEI V;/O

Utter garbage - I watched him on Saturday and three or four times he got into really good positions and he did not lift his head once!

He often runs with his head down and runs into blind furrows!

What you talking about half chances?!?!? - The number of 1 on 1's in recent weeks is truly shocking!

As I've said before, yes he has pace, yes he causes defences trouble. But his decision making / delivery / shooting in the final third is truly awful

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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2018, 11:10:46 am »

Quite right - and as I have said several times - it is Hoskins who features post match as the player that most worried the opposition

 

He is the one regularly mentioned by opposition fans as being the one that caused their defence the most trouble and concern.
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2018, 11:41:19 am »

As I said the other day...

I think Curle's first recruit ought to be a sports psychologist to work on Hoskins. He's a terrific little player; quick, skilful, energetic, great movement and positioning... right up until the point that he needs to do something with the ball.

At that point something just goes in his head, he panics and wellies the ball as hard as he can to get rid of it. It doesn't seem to matter if it's a cross or a shot, it gets the full monty every time. If he was able to calm the **** down and find some composure then he wouldn't be playing in league 2 for very long. Until that point though, he'll continue to frustrate.
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2018, 12:20:17 pm »

So, I have read absolute blither from folk who have clearly never seen beyond their beer-bellies.

Hoskins does, repeat DOES see what is happening around him.

He does look up.

He is aware.

But, when you are a few paces quicker than everyone else, do the REST OF YOUR TEAM react properly?

If he buried every half-chance that the mithering millions complain about...... he would be in Barcelona's side ahead of Messi.

I have seen quality professionals booed out of Northampton Town, who have then gone on to be "successes" beyond our wildest dreams.

Please don't make Hoskins the next who goes on to a higher level on a free & p1sses over our dreams.



Quite a few of us support your stance on Hoskins and after Saturday more so! What’s your opinion on  Cornell , should be interesting.
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2018, 12:26:04 pm »

OMG. Great post Crutchless. I was beginning to think I was the only one!! Hoskins is so stand out because he is so different! He is 2 yards quicker than his team mates. He looks for and finds space. He takes people on. Yes his finishing is appalling but nothing that some good coaching and CONFIDENCE couldn’t solve. I have a ST in the upper West and when ever I say something positive / encouraging about the lad I get daggers and looks of sympathy for my clearly unbalanced mental state.  He will come good in this crappy division but I’m guessing we won’t get too many apologies on this Board when he does? So, if your real Cobblers fans then get behind him not on him! UTC

I too like  Hoskins and you are not alone!
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2018, 13:21:22 pm »

His record speaks volumes
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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2018, 13:29:18 pm »

How many goals has he scored in how many games?Huh??

20 goals in 183 appearances.....

Do you measure that against the record of an average forward or an average midfielder?

I think most people are pretty much agreed that he isn't a forward, but as an attacking midfielder he can do a job.

He runs at people with pace and that scares opponents. He just needs to work on his final pass, his crossing and his finishing for when he gets those chances that his pace creates.

The problem is that he's been a pro for 7 or 8 seasons and doesn't really seem to have progressed. Although like most have said...if he had progressed then he wouldn't be with us anyway!!
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2018, 13:40:07 pm »

As I said before... He terrorizes defences, but doesn't bother keepers.

He's ok. Just quite frustrating.
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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2018, 14:17:04 pm »

As a lower league two side, he's about adequate. Frustratingly, he gives the ball away more than any player I've seen in a Cobblers shirt (and misses more 1v1s) and will certainly need replacing if we ever have playoff aspirations. We've needed proper wingers since the season we let Adams, Holmes and D'Ath go.
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2018, 14:27:13 pm »

As a lower league two side, he's about adequate. Frustratingly, he gives the ball away more than any player I've seen in a Cobblers shirt (and misses more 1v1s) and will certainly need replacing if we ever have playoff aspirations. We've needed proper wingers since the season we let Adams, Holmes and D'Ath go.

that is very flattering for d'ath to put him in a bracket with those 2
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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2018, 14:29:14 pm »

Probably more of a concern than Hoskins is that Austin gave Williams a 2 year contract and he doesn’t seem to have many goals in him, he works hard but it would be a miracle if he gets anywhere near 10 goals this season. At least Hoskins creates the chances he misses (and we can hope that at some point his finishing or luck improves), I can only think of the half chance that Williams hit the outside of the post with against bury last week. If Hoskins played alongside more of a prolific partner he might find that his performances improve.
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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2018, 14:37:37 pm »

Hoskins’ movement is very good . He works hard to find space .
However , I agree he doesn’t look up .
He therefore lacks composure .
He needs to watch JJOT in this regard who plays with his head up very well
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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2018, 14:55:21 pm »

that is very flattering for d'ath to put him in a bracket with those 2


I just picked the 3 players ahead of Hoskins at the time. Could probably put Lee Martin in there too.
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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2018, 15:47:25 pm »

Hoskins’ movement is very good . He works hard to find space .
However , I agree he doesn’t look up .
He therefore lacks composure .
He needs to watch JJOT in this regard who plays with his head up very well.
I agree, his movement is very good but that alone doesn't make him a footballer.
From Saturday's highlights, I can see why Cruthless holds the opinion he does, but they are not representative of ninety minutes.
Interesting that currently five players have been nominated as motm, and whilst im surprised Cornell doesnt make it six, I'm not at all surprised Hoskins isn't on the list.
Hoskins is also the complete opposite of JJ when it comes to going for a fifty fifty ball  Wink

To add to Patmore's and others, Cornell/Hoskins debate.
Cornell has saved more goals with better than regulation stops than Hoskins has scored goals this season. Hoskins has also wasted far more good chances than Cornell has fcuked up.
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« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2018, 18:05:58 pm »

Probably more of a concern than Hoskins is that Austin gave Williams a 2 year contract and he doesn’t seem to have many goals in him, he works hard but it would be a miracle if he gets anywhere near 10 goals this season. At least Hoskins creates the chances he misses (and we can hope that at some point his finishing or luck improves), I can only think of the half chance that Williams hit the outside of the post with against bury last week. If Hoskins played alongside more of a prolific partner he might find that his performances improve.
Interestingly, Swindon fans said in the pub on Saturday, that they'd have Williams back in a heartbeat!

Understand the view put forward that Hoskins has potential (possibly elsewhere) but certainly for us in the last couple of seasons, can't hit a barn door, whatever mazy runs he makes - a major contributing factor to our results and thus league position!
Deepcut cites opposition fans' views. Lincoln and Tranmere fans were waxing lyrical about him BUT, they see a quick seemingly talented player nearly scoring a hatful... not realising that is the norm not the exception!

Think Hammy hit the nail on the head;
Causes defences problems but certainly not keepers...apart from that, love the guy - keep him to terrorise Gravesend, sorry Ebbsfleet's defence next season!
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