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Coolcat
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Can we cut with all this terminology that makes 'Super Sammy' appear better than he apparently is... Assist = questionable pass that may or may not have lead to a goal or goal scoring opportunity!
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Clarity
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How many assists does Hoskins have this season? (grown up adult games only, not the youth cup thing from the other night)
31 chances not 31 assists! He’d have more assists if we had finished the chances... surely not too difficult to understand.
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I more or less agree with this, which is why I expect a little more from certain players (ahem) when they regularly make
The gap between Championship and Premier League, for example, is massive. Discounting the game where they played each other, Cardiff and Fulham have registered 2 wins in 22 matches between them so far this season and they finished 2nd and 3rd in the Championship last season respectively, this gives some indication how tough it is to succeed at that level.
It's not all gloom and doom, Wolves are doing ok and none of the promoted teams from 16/17 were relegated. Only Middlesborough from the 15/16 promoted sides are not still in the Prem
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I would say otherwise...
Lincoln 15 shots Carlisle 14 shots Wycombe 11 shots Cambridge 20 shots Morcambe 12 shots Colchester 13 shots Tranmere 17 shots Cheltenham 8 shots Port Vale 8 shots Notts C 15 shots Mansfield 3 shots Bury 13 shots Swindon 12 shots Forest Green 12 shots MK Dons 12 shots Macclesfield 21 shots Oldham 9 shots Crewe 14 shots Lincoln 10 shots
Excludes 3 games in the waste of time cup/vase/thingy.
The numbers don't add up on that 31 assist quote... If the list above is accurate, that's 239 shots. If every shot has an assist, even if Hoskins had 31, a couple of others must have a similar if not greater number, given I doubt goalkeeper and centre backs assist much, that leaves 6 or 7 outfield positions to assist. 239 divided by 7 even, is 31 and a bit - and that's based on equal contributions which we know isn't reality. I think that 31 assists quote is someones subjective analysis rather than anything factual
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Hoskins is sh1t.......aaaaarrrrrararrrrararararar
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Cordwainer2
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Is anyone else sick of the continuous slagging off of Hoskins? Please change the record.
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Cordwainer2 is sh1t........aaaaaarrrrhh!!!!
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The numbers don't add up on that 31 assist quote...
If the list above is accurate, that's 239 shots. If every shot has an assist, even if Hoskins had 31, a couple of others must have a similar if not greater number, given I doubt goalkeeper and centre backs assist much, that leaves 6 or 7 outfield positions to assist.
239 divided by 7 even, is 31 and a bit - and that's based on equal contributions which we know isn't reality.
I think that 31 assists quote is someones subjective analysis rather than anything factual
The majority of shots do not have an attributable assist.
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Is anyone else sick of the continuous sagging off of Hoskins? Please change the record.
Yes , Its why I don't listen to the opinion of about 80% of our fans. Most will just follow what they hear others saying and unfortunately our most negative fans are often the loudest. It does work both ways though, Some players become untouchable alas Taylor last year but its mainly people picking a scape goat and it catching on M.Taylor, D'Ath , Grimes or Hoskins.
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Is anyone else sick of the continuous sagging off of Hoskins? Please change the record.
Actually I have no problem agreeing with you - the endless repetitive comments on an average player where we have no obvious replacement! Still it gives some moaners a chance to have a say. To go out of your way to criticise a Cobblers player in such unfavourable terms is hardly the sign of genuine supporter. On those who offer seemingly malicious comments and call it an opinion should be challenged.
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Coolcat
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Yes , Its why I don't listen to the opinion of about 80% of our fans. Most will just follow what they hear others saying and unfortunately our most negative fans are often the loudest.
It does work both ways though, Some players become untouchable alas Taylor last year but its mainly people picking a scape goat and it catching on M.Taylor, D'Ath , Grimes or Hoskins.
Agree in principle with your sentiments, though don't agree with your example of Taylor being put forward. Very much divided opinion on him - personally, loved the guy, superb opportunity everytime he had a freekick, though yes, legs had gone. Sammo for me as a bang average player and rather poor manager seems to have gilded 'legend' status! More latterly, Richards and to an extent JJOT fit the mould!
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Can we cut with all this terminology that makes 'Super Sammy' appear better than he apparently is... Assist = questionable pass that may or may not have lead to a goal or goal scoring opportunity! I don't really agree on the definition here albeit tongue in cheek - the prem have a clear one and it's the following - "a deliberate pass that leads directly to a goal with no other player than the goal scorer touching the ball" Having said that Hoskins contribution to true assists by that definition is not great from an opportunity to result ratio
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I don't really agree on the definition here albeit tongue in cheek - the prem have a clear one and it's the following - "a deliberate pass that leads directly to a goal with no other player than the goal scorer touching the ball"
Having said that Hoskins contribution to true assists by that definition is not great from an opportunity to result ratio
If said ‘assiter’made a pass which should have resulted in a goal. Then it’s somewhat churlish to deny that player of an assist.
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If said ‘assiter’made a pass which should have resulted in a goal. Then it’s somewhat churlish to deny that player of an assist.
Getting a bit too theoretical here - its an assist for a goal not an assist for a chance of a goal so no I don't think the definition is wrong.
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Getting a bit too theoretical here - its an assist for a goal not an assist for a chance of a goal so no I don't think the definition is wrong.
If an assister gives the assisted an opportunity to score, it seems unfair that the assister gets penalised for the assisted's failure to score.
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31 chances not 31 assists! He’d have more assists if we had finished the chances... surely not too difficult to understand.
Thank you, but I can read. What I meant to ask and what I did ask was how many assists he had. I'd also like to know what qualifies as a "chance". Like I said, does a crosss that goes out for a goal kick count? Does a shot from the edge of the box that hits somebody near the corner flag count?
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Ron Obvious
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The numbers don't add up on that 31 assist quote...
If the list above is accurate, that's 239 shots.
The numbers are from the BBC stats. Who knows how accurate they are but it should give us an idea
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Ron Obvious
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Is anyone else sick of the continuous slagging off of Hoskins? Please change the record.
This is what it sounds like backwards..... rarararararrrrararrrrraaaaa.......t1hs si sniksoH (ɥosʞıus ıs sɥ⇂ʇ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ɐɐɐɐɐɹɹɹɹɹɐɹɐɹɹɹɹɐɹɐɹɐɹɐɹɐɹ for Melbourne Cob) A cover of Who put the sham in the shamalamadigdong is on the B side.
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If an assister gives the assisted an opportunity to score, it seems unfair that the assister gets penalised for the assisted's failure to score.
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