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« Reply #240 on: November 12, 2018, 19:02:23 pm »

We're lucky to have him
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« Reply #241 on: November 12, 2018, 19:14:47 pm »

Can we cut with all this terminology that makes 'Super Sammy' appear better than he apparently is...
Assist = questionable pass that may or may not have lead to a goal or goal scoring opportunity!  Wink
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« Reply #242 on: November 12, 2018, 21:12:51 pm »

How many assists does Hoskins have this season? (grown up adult games only, not the youth cup thing from the other night)
31 chances not 31 assists! He’d have more assists if we had finished the chances... surely not too difficult to understand.
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« Reply #243 on: November 12, 2018, 21:38:58 pm »

I more or less agree with this, which is why I expect a little more from certain players (ahem) when they regularly make

The gap between Championship and Premier League, for example, is massive. Discounting the game where they played each other, Cardiff and Fulham have registered 2 wins in 22 matches between them so far this season and they finished 2nd and 3rd in the Championship last season respectively, this gives some indication how tough it is to succeed at that level.

It's not all gloom and doom, Wolves are doing ok and none of the promoted teams from 16/17 were relegated. Only Middlesborough from the 15/16 promoted sides are not still in the Prem
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« Reply #244 on: November 13, 2018, 08:55:47 am »


I would say otherwise...

Lincoln 15 shots
Carlisle 14 shots
Wycombe 11 shots
Cambridge 20 shots
Morcambe 12 shots
Colchester 13 shots
Tranmere 17 shots
Cheltenham 8 shots
Port Vale 8 shots
Notts C 15 shots
Mansfield 3 shots
Bury 13 shots
Swindon 12 shots
Forest Green 12 shots
MK Dons 12 shots
Macclesfield 21 shots
Oldham 9 shots
Crewe 14 shots
Lincoln 10 shots


Excludes 3 games in the waste of time cup/vase/thingy.

The numbers don't add up on that 31 assist quote...

If the list above is accurate, that's 239 shots. If every shot has an assist, even if Hoskins had 31, a couple of others must have a similar if not greater number, given I doubt goalkeeper and centre backs assist much, that leaves 6 or 7 outfield positions to assist.

239 divided by 7 even, is 31 and a bit - and that's based on equal contributions which we know isn't reality.

I think that 31 assists quote is someones subjective analysis rather than anything factual
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« Reply #245 on: November 13, 2018, 10:18:10 am »

Hoskins is sh1t.......aaaaarrrrrararrrrararararar
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« Reply #246 on: November 13, 2018, 10:52:32 am »

Is anyone else sick of the continuous slagging off of Hoskins? Please change the record.
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« Reply #247 on: November 13, 2018, 10:59:59 am »

 Cordwainer2 is sh1t........aaaaaarrrrhh!!!!      Smiley
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« Reply #248 on: November 13, 2018, 11:25:05 am »

The numbers don't add up on that 31 assist quote...

If the list above is accurate, that's 239 shots. If every shot has an assist, even if Hoskins had 31, a couple of others must have a similar if not greater number, given I doubt goalkeeper and centre backs assist much, that leaves 6 or 7 outfield positions to assist.

239 divided by 7 even, is 31 and a bit - and that's based on equal contributions which we know isn't reality.

I think that 31 assists quote is someones subjective analysis rather than anything factual

The majority of shots do not have an attributable assist.
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« Reply #249 on: November 13, 2018, 12:05:56 pm »

Is anyone else sick of the continuous sagging off of Hoskins? Please change the record.

Yes , Its why I don't listen to the opinion of about 80% of our fans. Most will just follow what they hear others saying and unfortunately our most negative fans are often the loudest.

It does work both ways though, Some players become untouchable alas Taylor last year but its mainly people picking a scape goat and it catching on M.Taylor, D'Ath , Grimes or Hoskins.

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« Reply #250 on: November 13, 2018, 12:17:47 pm »

Is anyone else sick of the continuous sagging off of Hoskins? Please change the record.

Actually I have no problem agreeing with you - the endless repetitive comments on an average player where we have no obvious replacement! Still it gives some moaners a chance to have a say. To go out of your way to criticise a Cobblers player in such unfavourable terms is hardly the sign of genuine supporter. On those who offer seemingly malicious comments and call it an opinion should be challenged.
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« Reply #251 on: November 13, 2018, 12:19:03 pm »

Yes , Its why I don't listen to the opinion of about 80% of our fans. Most will just follow what they hear others saying and unfortunately our most negative fans are often the loudest.

It does work both ways though, Some players become untouchable alas Taylor last year but its mainly people picking a scape goat and it catching on M.Taylor, D'Ath , Grimes or Hoskins.


Agree in principle with your sentiments, though don't agree with your example of Taylor being put forward.
Very much divided opinion on him - personally, loved the guy, superb opportunity everytime he had a freekick, though yes, legs had gone.

Sammo for me as a bang average player and rather poor manager seems to have gilded 'legend' status!
More latterly, Richards and to an extent JJOT fit the mould!
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« Reply #252 on: November 13, 2018, 12:19:40 pm »

Can we cut with all this terminology that makes 'Super Sammy' appear better than he apparently is...
Assist = questionable pass that may or may not have lead to a goal or goal scoring opportunity!  Wink

I don't really agree on the definition here albeit tongue in cheek - the prem have a clear one and it's the following - "a deliberate pass that leads directly to a goal with no other player than the goal scorer touching the ball"

Having said that Hoskins contribution to true assists by that definition is not great from an opportunity to result ratio
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« Reply #253 on: November 13, 2018, 12:35:02 pm »

I don't really agree on the definition here albeit tongue in cheek - the prem have a clear one and it's the following - "a deliberate pass that leads directly to a goal with no other player than the goal scorer touching the ball"

Having said that Hoskins contribution to true assists by that definition is not great from an opportunity to result ratio


If said ‘assiter’made a pass which should have resulted in a goal. Then it’s somewhat churlish to deny that player of an assist.
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« Reply #254 on: November 13, 2018, 12:48:24 pm »


If said ‘assiter’made a pass which should have resulted in a goal. Then it’s somewhat churlish to deny that player of an assist.

Getting a bit too theoretical here - its an assist for a goal not an assist for a chance of a goal so no I don't think the definition is wrong.
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« Reply #255 on: November 13, 2018, 16:59:21 pm »

Getting a bit too theoretical here - its an assist for a goal not an assist for a chance of a goal so no I don't think the definition is wrong.

If an assister gives the assisted an opportunity to score, it seems unfair that the assister gets penalised for the assisted's failure to score.
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« Reply #256 on: November 13, 2018, 18:17:50 pm »

31 chances not 31 assists! He’d have more assists if we had finished the chances... surely not too difficult to understand.
Thank you, but I can read. What I meant to ask and what I did ask was how many assists he had.
I'd also like to know what qualifies as a "chance". Like I said, does a crosss that goes out for a goal kick count? Does a shot from the edge of the box that hits somebody near the corner flag count?
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« Reply #257 on: November 13, 2018, 19:02:05 pm »

The numbers don't add up on that 31 assist quote...

If the list above is accurate, that's 239 shots.

The numbers are from the BBC stats. Who knows how accurate they are but it should give us an idea  Smiley
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« Reply #258 on: November 13, 2018, 19:06:04 pm »

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« Reply #259 on: November 13, 2018, 19:13:04 pm »

If an assister gives the assisted an opportunity to score, it seems unfair that the assister gets penalised for the assisted's failure to score.

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