The Hotel End
March 28, 2024, 16:05:35 pm
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
News:
 
  Home Help Search Arcade Downloads Gallery Links Staff List Calendar Login Register Chat  

Forest Green Rovers - 13 Oct 18

Pages: 1 ... 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 [10] 11   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Forest Green Rovers - 13 Oct 18  (Read 11189 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
guest2677
Guest

Badges: (View All)
« Reply #180 on: October 15, 2018, 14:27:51 pm »

It was a long pass forward. Could Facey look along the line while simultaneously looking up the pitch at the exact moment the pass over the top is made? It's guesswork, Facey doesn't 'know' if he was offside or not.

Facey also may not have been the last defender looking across the line as this could well have been Turnbull who is in fact the closest to Reid as the ball comes over and who is also clearly appealing for offside.
What makes you think Facey would be looking 'up the pitch' the moment the pass is made?
Linesman generally do ok with one pair of eyes. It's similar process for players, looking along the line if your the last man/linesman.
If Turnbull was the last man and played Reid on then Facey would have also seen that.
Turnbull however would not have been aware if Facey had played Reid on.
The position is crucial, last man/linesman. A position Hoskins still seemingly has trouble with.
Report Spam   Logged
everbrite
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 20217


Steve Howard best since Cliff Holton


View Profile
Badges: (View All)
20000 Posts Search Apple User
« Reply #181 on: October 15, 2018, 14:29:22 pm »

I can't quite believe the amount of discussion over something that turned out to be an irrelevance. Then again having posted on here for many years I suppose I should.

Said poster has history of criticizing Cornell. I just wondered whether you thought Cornell deserved such outright caustic hindsight comment.
We all know that the matter is closed/irrelevant. I do apologise for not making the query on Cornell clearer.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2018, 21:39:04 pm by everbrite » Report Spam   Logged

2020 Grand National S/S 3rd Place
everbrite
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 20217


Steve Howard best since Cliff Holton


View Profile
Badges: (View All)
20000 Posts Search Apple User
« Reply #182 on: October 15, 2018, 16:01:57 pm »

http://

.............

Facey also may not have been the last defender looking across the line as this could well have been Turnbull who is in fact the closest to Reid as the ball comes over and who is also clearly appealing for offside.

Good point as from the video it appears that Turnbull was the nearest man to Reid. Where this leaves Facey
in playing Reid onside is somewhat debatable! The Linesman had a opportunity to raise his flag when the ball was first punted upfield and must have noticed that Reid was in an offside position. For whatever reason he hesitated possibly because he was unsure. Still as said before it’s an irrelevance so no point in prolonging the debate.
Report Spam   Logged

2020 Grand National S/S 3rd Place
ClarenceInDefence
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 609


View Profile
Badges: (View All)
Fifth year Anniversary Level 4 Combination
« Reply #183 on: October 15, 2018, 18:22:38 pm »

What makes you think Facey would be looking 'up the pitch' the moment the pass is made?
Linesman generally do ok with one pair of eyes. It's similar process for players, looking along the line if your the last man/linesman.
If Turnbull was the last man and played Reid on then Facey would have also seen that.
Turnbull however would not have been aware if Facey had played Reid on.
The position is crucial, last man/linesman. A position Hoskins still seemingly has trouble with.

I don't and obviously he wouldn't be, not if he was 'looking along the line'.

Players often don't know if they are onside/have caught a player offside. More often than not they do, but to know all the time or even close to it is nigh on impossible.

Flagging offside's can be a thankless task, because some are much easier to call right than others. It can happen that however well the linesman is positioned he may not be able to make a call correctly, and this can be especially true for long passes in open play. While linesmen get it right more often than not they often also get it wrong and sometimes quite badly.

Ultimately the result made the decision irrelevant anyway.
Report Spam   Logged
Coolcat
Hero Member
*****
Online Online

Posts: 8004



View Profile
Badges: (View All)
Search Windows User Level 6
« Reply #184 on: October 15, 2018, 18:29:06 pm »

Three pages on whether or whether not FGR's goal was offside... never want to see any criticism again that Beds labours a point!  Shocked
Report Spam   Logged
Grove
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1903


View Profile
Badges: (View All)
Linux User Mobile User Windows User
« Reply #185 on: October 15, 2018, 18:47:37 pm »

Three pages on whether or whether not FGR's goal was offside... never want to see any criticism again that Beds labours a point!  Shocked

Unbelievable ,offside or not it was given , we won. no need for post mortem
Report Spam   Logged
Ron Obvious
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1234


Suffer well.


View Profile
Badges: (View All)
« Reply #186 on: October 15, 2018, 18:47:47 pm »

Said poster has history of critizing Cornell. I just wondered whether you thought Cornell deserved such outright caustic hindsight comment.
We all know that the matter is closed/irrelevant. I do apologise for not making the query on Cornell clearer.

Some simply criticise because because just because others do. It almost becomes the fashion to do so. Sheep,well we have a few. The farmers give them plenty of tainted grass to chew on the sheep scoff it down and a little later produce sloppy $hite.

Sorry for being a little cryptic.  Wink
Report Spam   Logged

Breathing will help you live.
Ron Obvious
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1234


Suffer well.


View Profile
Badges: (View All)
« Reply #187 on: October 15, 2018, 18:49:50 pm »

Three pages on whether or whether not FGR's goal was offside... never want to see any criticism again that Beds labours a point!  Shocked

Absolutely


Unbelievable ,offside or not it was given , we won. no need for post mortem

Undeniably
Report Spam   Logged

Breathing will help you live.
AbingtonCobbler
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 70


View Profile
Badges: (View All)
« Reply #188 on: October 15, 2018, 18:51:53 pm »

Just enjoy the win.  I don’t care how we win anymore as long as we win.

Going out of league 2 would be a nightmare.  Win pretty or ugly just get points on board and stay up.

Don’t know why some of you come on here to moan.  

Come on Cobblers !
Report Spam   Logged
Tabasco Kid
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 5419


View Profile
Badges: (View All)
5000 Posts Spammer 25 Posts in one day Seventh year Anniversary
« Reply #189 on: October 15, 2018, 18:55:39 pm »

Does it matter? As plenty of people have said, WE WON. Offside,onside, I dont give a sh1t. WE WON.
And that doesnt happen very often. Enjoy the moment people.
Report Spam   Logged

Were in the pipe 5 by 5.
guest3114
Guest

Badges: (View All)
« Reply #190 on: October 15, 2018, 18:58:26 pm »

Unbelievable ,offside or not it was given , we won. no need for post mortem
I think it’s vital we set up another poll on this subject “Off Side, On Side, Can’t Decide, Which Side Are You?”. I’m not doing it though, I got shouted at last time I put a poll up on account of it being pointless.
Report Spam   Logged
everbrite
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 20217


Steve Howard best since Cliff Holton


View Profile
Badges: (View All)
20000 Posts Search Apple User
« Reply #191 on: October 15, 2018, 19:19:55 pm »

Absolutely


Undeniably

You all forgot it got Clarence back  Cool
Report Spam   Logged

2020 Grand National S/S 3rd Place
guest2995
Guest

Badges: (View All)
« Reply #192 on: October 15, 2018, 20:32:21 pm »

I don't and obviously he wouldn't be, not if he was 'looking along the line'.

Players often don't know if they are onside/have caught a player offside. More often than not they do, but to know all the time or even close to it is nigh on impossible.

Flagging offside's can be a thankless task, because some are much easier to call right than others. It can happen that however well the linesman is positioned he may not be able to make a call correctly, and this can be especially true for long passes in open play. While linesmen get it right more often than not they often also get it wrong and sometimes quite badly.

Ultimately the result made the decision irrelevant anyway.
As a centre half myself for over 40 years , I always knew if a player had been caught offside or not . It’s your job to know .
Report Spam   Logged
guest3063
Guest

Badges: (View All)
« Reply #193 on: October 15, 2018, 20:50:00 pm »

As a centre half myself for over 40 years , I always knew if a player had been caught offside or not . It’s your job to know .

Gosh... What age were you when you retired?
Report Spam   Logged
TownOwl
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 773



View Profile
Badges: (View All)
Combination Topic Starter Poll Voter
« Reply #194 on: October 15, 2018, 21:11:37 pm »

Waters still could have done better though as it was ultimately a decent opening, but I certainly wouldn't describe the chance as a 'sitter' by any means.

A 'sitter'may have been pushing it in hindsight. However, you can't hope to get better chances than that if you're a professional footballer. I have no issue with him not scoring, IF the keeper pulls off a blinding save, but you've got to be asking him to make a very tough stop. Not hitting the target there is is pretty criminal for a pro with that much space and a clear sight of goal. There must be countless non-league players who would expect to bury that more times than not.

Will he get goals? I'm not too sure, but he's never really had a decent run of games, so I hope he does now as I think he's done enough to earn that. Waters always looked great against pre-season lower opposition, so hopefully a confidence boost from a run in a winning team can see him deliver at this level again. He seems to have bulked up a bit too btw.
Report Spam   Logged

Roll Eyes           Roll Eyes           Roll Eyes
guest47
Guest

Badges: (View All)
« Reply #195 on: October 15, 2018, 21:26:10 pm »

I thought the whole point of these message boards was to discuss every aspect of the club to the minutest detail. Keep going folks it’s what this is for.
Report Spam   Logged
everbrite
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 20217


Steve Howard best since Cliff Holton


View Profile
Badges: (View All)
20000 Posts Search Apple User
« Reply #196 on: October 15, 2018, 21:48:06 pm »

I thought the whole point of these message boards was to discuss every aspect of the club to the minutest detail. Keep going folks it’s what this is for.

Yeeeaaarrhh - come on Frank, it was fun while it lasted. Even the North Stand joined in! I thought Lord Clarence was quite eloquent on the subject. Hope we can get a similar goal at MKD! 
Report Spam   Logged

2020 Grand National S/S 3rd Place
tuks
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 315


View Profile
Badges: (View All)
Combination Topic Starter Poll Voter
« Reply #197 on: October 15, 2018, 22:54:59 pm »

I’d love to know who the fella was who thought it would be a good idea to run topless onto the pitch with his jeans half way down his arse with bright green pants hanging out !!!! 🕺🏻

Call the fashion police quick 😂
Report Spam   Logged
guest2677
Guest

Badges: (View All)
« Reply #198 on: October 16, 2018, 06:51:05 am »

I thought the whole point of these message boards was to discuss every aspect of the club to the minutest detail. Keep going folks it’s what this is for.
Ok then sir.
Your earlier assertion that a footballer is incapable of travelling five yards in half a second needs to be looked at again...
Report Spam   Logged
ClarenceInDefence
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 609


View Profile
Badges: (View All)
Fifth year Anniversary Level 4 Combination
« Reply #199 on: October 16, 2018, 10:32:54 am »

As a centre half myself for over 40 years , I always knew if a player had been caught offside or not . It’s your job to know .

Hello, Franco Baresi  Wink

I don't disagree that it's the defenders job to know, it certainly is, but that doesn't mean that they do know all of the time because that is self evidently not true even for many 'elite' level players.
« Last Edit: October 16, 2018, 13:43:02 pm by ClarenceInDefence » Report Spam   Logged
Pages: 1 ... 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 [10] 11   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by EzPortal
Parental guidance is urged as this messageboard may not be suitable for all persons especially those under the age of 16 as the forums may contain words, phrases and expressions not considered appropriate for a younger audience so please express caution. If any posts in the forums offend you, please let us know and we will look at them and if we agree with your complaint, we will remove them. You are personally responsible and potentially liable for the contents of your posting and may be sued should your posting contain content of a defamatory or other illegal nature. Every message posted leaves a traceable IP number. We check the forums at various times of the day and remove offending posts. Other supporters are welcome but abusive or silly posts will be removed and the offenders potentially barred from future access to the site. We advise that you never reveal any personal information about yourself or anyone else (for example: telephone number, home address or email address), and please do not include postal addresses of any kind. This messageboard is not endorsed or in any way affiliated with Northampton Town FC. All postings on this board become copyright of The Hotel End & may not be reproduced without the permission of the board administrator. By signing up to this message board you agree to this. The Hotel End cannot be held liable for the actions or postings of its members. The Hotel End reserve the right to edit, delete, move or close any thread for any reason. The Hotel End may disclose user information to government authorities at their discretion or when required by law. The Hotel End may also disclose user information when The Hotel End has reason to believe that someone is causing injury to or interference with its rights or property, other The Hotel End users, or anyone else that could be harmed by such activities. By registering for The Hotel End, you agree to indemnify The Hotel End its representatives, and agents, and hold them harmless from any and all claims (including claims for legal fees) which may arise from your participation on the The Hotel End. You also agree that The Hotel End is not responsible for the materials posted by users of The Hotel End. In addition, you grant The Hotel End and its affiliates, worldwide, royalty-free perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive right and license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform and display any message or content posted on The Hotel End and/or e-mail sent by you to The Hotel End (in whole or in part). The Hotel End reserves the right to make the rules up as it goes along. Thank you - The Hotel End I love Quidco
Bookmark this site!
Powered by SMF | SMF © 2016, Simple Machines
Privacy Policy