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The Kieth Curle Post Honeymoon period

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« on: November 27, 2018, 21:50:16 pm »

Well thats the end of the honeymoon folkes. 10 league games in. W4, D4, L2. Not at all bad.

However, the last 3 games...D2, L1.

Starting at Exeter, it is a real concern that the players have reverted back to type, as they did so under the previous 4 managers after a short period of 'trying'.

This evening followed Saturday. We looked terrible.

Its a blessing that theres now 11 days before the next league game. Time to regroup, time to send Ash 'its always someone elses fault' Taylor back up the M6 to Scouse land (or indeed Euro Disney) and well away from the match day squad, and time to go back to basics all round.

Tonight wasn't a blip, its been coming. Exeter should have been 3 or 4-0 up before we equalised, Grimsby deserved the 3 points on Saturday. We got away with the last 2, tonight our luck ran out.

We'd have all snatched 16 points from Kieth's first 10 games; the next 10 is when we will really start to find out what he's all about!

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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2018, 21:54:01 pm »

The alarm bells are well and truly ringing for me, Taylor for Turnbull, keeping Hoskins on and taking Van Veen off, Constant tinkering........
We desperately need Crooks and Morais back.
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2018, 21:59:24 pm »

On dear, oh dear. It's started again  Angry

(I'm referring to stupid threads by the way).
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2018, 22:03:32 pm »

Mate. Its Keith (again)
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2018, 22:08:08 pm »

Mate. Its Keith (again)

 Huh?

It's okay, lets sack another manager. That will get these players performing  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2018, 22:10:15 pm »

agreed that always works
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2018, 22:12:05 pm »

Huh?

It's okay, lets sack another manager. That will get these players performing  Roll Eyes
Grin Grin Grin
Whoosh.
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2018, 22:21:00 pm »

Grin Grin Grin
Whoosh.

Hi folks Carlisle fan here, not trying to rub your noses in it after such a poor result, but I can honestly say I'm not surprised at some of the comments about 'tinkering', I'm afraid this will go on and on and on................even when you have had a decent result, even when old Curly Chops has 'got his own players in'. You see the problem is he simply can not help himself, he has to **** about with the team, its like its almost inbuilt with him to 'change it'. He will trot out the same old excuses about 'The Northampton Board not matching his ambitions' when the **** hits the fan.......................but at Carlisle he was given the best budget of any previous Carlisle manager, but hey ho we couldn't match 'his ambitions'Huh?Huh?
You Have been warned.
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2018, 22:25:33 pm »

Hi folks Carlisle fan here, not trying to rub your noses in it after such a poor result, but I can honestly say I'm not surprised at some of the comments about 'tinkering', I'm afraid this will go on and on and on................even when you have had a decent result, even when old Curly Chops has 'got his own players in'. You see the problem is he simply can not help himself, he has to **** about with the team, its like its almost inbuilt with him to 'change it'. He will trot out the same old excuses about 'The Northampton Board not matching his ambitions' when the **** hits the fan.......................but at Carlisle he was given the best budget of any previous Carlisle manager, but hey ho we couldn't match 'his ambitions'Huh?Huh?
You Have been warned.

I thought all you lot liked him and was sorry to see him go? Or are you one of the minority who didn't and now are trying to sound smug?
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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2018, 22:26:00 pm »

Hi folks Carlisle fan here, not trying to rub your noses in it after such a poor result, but I can honestly say I'm not surprised at some of the comments about 'tinkering', I'm afraid this will go on and on and on................even when you have had a decent result, even when old Curly Chops has 'got his own players in'. You see the problem is he simply can not help himself, he has to **** about with the team, its like its almost inbuilt with him to 'change it'. He will trot out the same old excuses about 'The Northampton Board not matching his ambitions' when the **** hits the fan.......................but at Carlisle he was given the best budget of any previous Carlisle manager, but hey ho we couldn't match 'his ambitions'Huh?Huh?
You Have been warned.

I guess this is why he is still a league 2 manager after 400+ games.  Still better than the last 4 who were all conference north at best.
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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2018, 22:34:12 pm »

I thought all you lot liked him and was sorry to see him go? Or are you one minority who didn't and now trying to sound smug?

The support was completely divided, because he saved us from oblivion in the first season he was here, a lot of fans thought 'hey he must be good' and then he got us into the play offs, (but realistically he buggered it up because we should have got automatic.....tinkering again). The board then threw money at him to get us promotion only for him to completely waste it on utter dross. Decent young players were overlooked for 'seasoned pros' which were abysmal.
The overall support was completely divided (and still is), but those of us with half a brain realised he was, and never will be any good, 17 years without a promotion and still counting................!! 
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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2018, 22:36:45 pm »

We appoint a manager with 40% win ratio in this league. After 10 games, he has won 40% of games. Hardly surprising.
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2018, 22:41:27 pm »

We appoint a manager with 40% win ratio in this league. After 10 games, he has won 40% of games. Hardly surprising.

I have absolutely no doubt he will (at first) make a difference, because players as always will want to impress their new manager, however give it a reasonable amount of games and then the tinkering will start in Earnest, he thinks hes a Premier League Manager in the 4th tier......honestly!!
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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2018, 22:42:32 pm »

I have absolutely no doubt he will (at first) make a difference, because players as always will want to impress their new manager, however give it a reasonable amount of games and then the tinkering will start in Earnest, he thinks hes a Premier League Manager in the 4th tier......honestly!!

In all honesty you sound quite bitter....
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2018, 22:53:37 pm »

Nope, not bitter at all, just think he should/could have done a LOT better, with the resources he had.
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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2018, 23:20:36 pm »

Perspective.

These same players whom KC has inherited have all failed under previous managers so until the window opens we are lumbered with them. If no one comes in for them then they will no doubt just sit on their lucrative contracts until they expire (see Kasim & to a lesser extent Coddington) so as a club we a going nowhere until the deadwood is shifted.

As for KC his remit was/is to keep us in the league as this will make the club more profitable for KT as he tries to sell.

All very depressing on and off the field at the moment.
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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2018, 23:21:18 pm »

I before E......except after K
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« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2018, 23:30:03 pm »

Nope, not bitter at all, just think he should/could have done a LOT better, with the resources he had.

I am afraid you came across as a very bitter fan; perhaps you didnt mean to infer that but that is how it came acros.
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« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2018, 23:36:53 pm »

Nope, not bitter at all, just think he should/could have done a LOT better, with the resources he had.

I find it quite baffling when people attempt to compare their clubs budget to other teams at this level. I can understand in the premier league where it’s a lot more broadcasted, but unless you’re a ‘big’ club for the division (i.e a Portsmouth or Luton at league two level) how on earth can you know what your clubs budget is in comparison to other clubs. I accept that there are smaller clubs who you can reasonably conclude have smalll budgets (e.g Morecambe), but in a league where most of the time we’re not even told how much a player has been sold for I find it somewhat confusing when I hear a fan say ‘we have a top 7 budget’. How on earth does one know that? By the way this is not solely directed at you, just more of a thought based on your earlier comments. 
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« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2018, 23:40:05 pm »

Keith will do just fine. Solid not spectacular. Keep us up, stabilise us, pass the reigns on to someone else.
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