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January Window - Rumours, Ins and Outs

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« Reply #1440 on: January 31, 2019, 11:26:58 am »

Bizarre that people seem to spend so much time beating themselves & the club up over decisions taken nearly 3 years ago.

My understanding of the situation is that even if CW had remained as manager, Marquis & Collins would not necessarily have been signed permanently as at the time neither had any serious credentials as league 1 goal scorers.

Clearly the subsequent signings by Page did not fit the bill either but what's gone is gone.

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« Reply #1441 on: January 31, 2019, 11:27:57 am »

Can you tell me the lottery number then please???

You think the two are the same?
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« Reply #1442 on: January 31, 2019, 11:28:15 am »

I believe it was reported that Marquis wanted to stay but thought he went and signed for DR prior to Page's appointment.



Marquis signed for Donny mid-June, Page was appointed mid-May. It seems we signed Revell the day after Marquis signed for Donny.
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« Reply #1443 on: January 31, 2019, 11:37:45 am »

You think the two are the same?

No far off TBH - He scored 5 goals in 54 games for Millwall!!!! - 1 in 10!

Yes he worked hard, chased lost causes - but IMO never looked a natural goal scorer in fact missing a far few chances Sammy would be proud of. Yes the raw ingredients were there but there wasn't anything to suggest he'd go on to be a 20 goal a season forward in lg1 at all. As others have said, at the time if you had to choose between him and Collins I'd have taken Collins every time.

So what are the lottery numbers going be then? ;0)

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« Reply #1444 on: January 31, 2019, 11:38:50 am »

Don't think I've ever felt so desperate for a signing on deadline day. Don't care who it isn't just sign someone so we can end this Marquis debate  Grin
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« Reply #1445 on: January 31, 2019, 11:41:16 am »

It is also possible that playing in League One that season might have been too early for Marquis, especially playing in a bottom half side.

Sometimes momentum is everything, a full season in an attacking team challenging towards the top of League Two might have given Marquis the kick-start his career needed. No one really knows.

We should really move on now though
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« Reply #1446 on: January 31, 2019, 11:46:26 am »

Don't think I've ever felt so desperate for a signing on deadline day. Don't care who it isn't just sign someone so we can end this Marquis debate  Grin

We need more than the 1!!!!
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« Reply #1447 on: January 31, 2019, 11:51:13 am »

No far off TBH - He scored 5 goals in 54 games for Millwall!!!! - 1 in 10!

Yes he worked hard, chased lost causes - but IMO never looked a natural goal scorer in fact missing a far few chances Sammy would be proud of. Yes the raw ingredients were there but there wasn't anything to suggest he'd go on to be a 20 goal a season forward in lg1 at all. As others have said, at the time if you had to choose between him and Collins I'd have taken Collins every time.

So what are the lottery numbers going be then? ;0)



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« Reply #1448 on: January 31, 2019, 11:56:56 am »

As the minutes tick by , the more dismal it becomes .
We haven’t got enough in this squad to finish strongly .
A series of injuries could see us plummet further .
It’s no time to put your trust in 4/5 youngsters in the same team line up .
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« Reply #1449 on: January 31, 2019, 12:01:09 pm »

I see Kristian Dennis joining Grimsby on loan...

Not set the world alight at Notts County but standout for Chesterfield in their relegation season...

He'd do us!

If we get anyone at all it will probably be the just released Chris Dagnall!!!

We need a leader and some experience in our very youthful squad...

Woeful window...so far
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« Reply #1450 on: January 31, 2019, 12:03:30 pm »

As the minutes tick by , the more dismal it becomes .
We haven’t got enough in this squad to finish strongly .
A series of injuries could see us plummet further .
It’s no time to put your trust in 4/5 youngsters in the same team line up .
That's exactly what DA was about to do before getting the push. it is worrying. JJ has only just resumed training. Foley is nowhere near. One or two injuries now would make it very difficult - or more difficult.
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« Reply #1451 on: January 31, 2019, 12:04:54 pm »

The thing that I'm most pissed off about, is that we appointed Curle in the first week of October. He has had 3 full months to assess what players he wants to bring in to improve the squad when the window opened. We are now on the final day of the window, and without doubt, any signings made today are panic signings. The lack of planning has been a shambles.

I dearly hope to be wrong, but seriously think that this could cost us our place in the football league.
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« Reply #1452 on: January 31, 2019, 12:06:06 pm »

I wouldn't say so - yes he chased & worked hard whilst here, but no one could see he was going to be a 20 goal a season striker in lg2 let alone lg1 - he hardly set the world alight whilst here. Hindsight as I say is a wonderful thing!
Those who saw his performance against us when playing on loan at Cheltenham were left in no doubt as to his ability.
Everyone was happy we were lucky enough to re sign him on loan.
Playing in team with Ricky Holmes hogging the limelight somewhat kept Collins and Marquis In the background.
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« Reply #1453 on: January 31, 2019, 12:33:30 pm »

It's all very well talking about player we let go 2.5 seasons ago but it the now we should be considering. This window is baffling me. We have watched talent and quality leave 3 young loanees come in with little or no first team experience. We hear KC talk about going on a journey and building the right foundations and ambition. That all well and good but what worrying me is we seem to be going backwards with the squad. Curle, West and Tracey have had long enough to evaluate the sqaud and what needs to come in and get it seem he doesn't, this is not acceptable. I hope and pray we shall be proved wrong with some quality late moves in...my gut say not.
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« Reply #1454 on: January 31, 2019, 12:48:18 pm »

Chris Dagnall anyone?

Just been released by Bury to sign for another club, excellent record for Crewe the year before.

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« Reply #1455 on: January 31, 2019, 12:49:34 pm »

Just because a player succeeds elsewhere doesn’t mean they would have had the same success had they stayed at the club. Look at someone like Ian Henderson, failed here and at another couple of clubs before becoming a goal machine at Roachdale, Holmes would probably never been the player he was here had he stayed at Portsmouth.
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« Reply #1456 on: January 31, 2019, 12:51:24 pm »

Chris Dagnall anyone?

Just been released by Bury to sign for another club, excellent record for Crewe the year before.



Only if Andy Williams is to leave.
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« Reply #1457 on: January 31, 2019, 12:55:03 pm »

It's all very well talking about player we let go 2.5 seasons ago but it the now we should be considering. This window is baffling me. We have watched talent and quality leave 3 young loanees come in with little or no first team experience. We hear KC talk about honing on a journey and building the right foundations and ambition. That all well and good but what sorting me is we seem to be going backwards with the squad. Curle, West and Tracey have had long enough to evaluate the sqaud and what needs to come in and get it seem he doesn't, this is not acceptable. I hope and pray we shall be proved wrong with some quality late moves in...my gut say not.

january is not the time for long term planning............that will be done through the summer

this is about cutting costs and balancing the squad

and, fingers crossed, not being weak and inexperienced enough to go down!
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« Reply #1458 on: January 31, 2019, 12:57:22 pm »

january is not the time for long term planning............that will be done through the summer

this is about cutting costs and balancing the squad

and, fingers crossed, not being weak and inexperienced enough to go down!


Agreed today so long as we keep Pierre and Turnbull I will be happy. Two players of a good age and the ability to take us to the next level.
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« Reply #1459 on: January 31, 2019, 12:59:47 pm »

That's exactly what DA was about to do before getting the push. it is worrying. JJ has only just resumed training. Foley is nowhere near. One or two injuries now would make it very difficult - or more difficult.
Exactly .
When the team is low on confidence and the pressure is on , you need experience .
Even people in the youth set up don’t think it’s right to expose so many youngsters together at this time - it will do them more damage than good .
I will accept Ivan Toney was an exception to that but he was not playing alongside three or four others with no league experience .
If Curle plays all the youngsters , he is throwing them and the club under a bus .
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