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I like Cornell and really don’t understand why he has so many detractors .
We have far more issues to deal with as a team than the goalkeeper .
Having said that , it does appear that he needs to work on concentration a bit more. As a team we simply don’t close down well enough or early enough though.
I think once we have signed a new keeper in the next week or two - people will see just what a difference having an actual number 1 makes to the team as a whole. |
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I think once we have signed a new keeper in the next week or two - people will see just what a difference having an actual number 1 makes to the team as a whole.
This, fingers crossed for a proper keeper and while we're are about it a left back, center mid and winger minimum |
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I Like Cornell and I think he has proved fairly good in recent weeks, but there is no competition for him. He could concede 5 or 6 goals in the next game (Hopefully wont happen) and he will still start the next game.
Same goes for Bucs as well, decent player but no competition for his place
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The stats on the BBC state that FGR had only 4 attempts on target, scoring two of those. So Cornell only made 2 saves all match. Cornell couldn't have comfortably saved too many long range attempts if those stats are accurate.
Many on here were pointing out Cornell was not good enough all the way back in August. He has since consistently shown that those who held that opinion were correct. He has cost the team 10 goals this season (maybe more), without a doubt.
Morecambe, FGR (h), FGR (a), at least 2 v Mansfield, at least 1 v Carlisle, Stevenage, just off the top of my head but there have been others. There have also been other terrible errors where only pure luck prevented other goals being conceded. The unbelievable dropped catch v MK (a) being one that many on here ignored. How many goals have we scored this season due to GK errors? 1? 0? If such errors were to be expected for a GK in L2 we would have benefited from such mistakes ourselves. Except we haven't. A GK even at this level should not be making so many errors.
He also does not command his area in any way. He rarely comes to claim a cross or to punch one away. The sum total of all this is that it breeds nervousness throughout the defence, this then breeds to the rest of the team.
Whether Ward or Coddington are not any better is not remotely the point. If Ward is no better he should never have been signed. The money on his wages should have been spent on the wages for a L2 experienced GK to be first choice leaving Cornell as back-up. I have a feeling Curle will be rectifying Austin's error during this window.
This is spot on, especially about commanding the area and the confidence that the defence have in the keeper, look at the difference in Liverpools defence now they have a good keeper behind them. Cornell made 2 really good saves yesterday and, in my mind, was in the running for MOM but then lets in a shot that most keepers at any semi pro level would have kept out, in the last minute. Thats not going to increase the defences confidence in him is it? |
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This is spot on, especially about commanding the area and the confidence that the defence have in the keeper, look at the difference in Liverpools defence now they have a good keeper behind them. Cornell made 2 really good saves yesterday and, in my mind, was in the running for MOM but then lets in a shot that most keepers at any semi pro level would have kept out, in the last minute. Thats not going to increase the defences confidence in him is it?
Spot on Barton - He has improved this year - nobody can deny that - his distribution at times has been fantastic. But there is always a howler waiting around the corner you feel and look at the number of goals he concedes from distance or he should save, as you say cannot fill our defence with any sort of real confidence (And maybe one of the reasons for Ash Taylors dip in form). You need a keeper that will command the area and give confidence to those around him - Dai does not do that. As I said above once we do have a keeper with these attributes in place it will be far easy to see the difference and what we have been missing. |
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We will never get out of this league with players like Cornell and Hoskins in the starting 11 FACT.
Well we might do. But not in the direction we want. |
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This is spot on, especially about commanding the area and the confidence that the defence have in the keeper, look at the difference in Liverpools defence now they have a good keeper behind them. Cornell made 2 really good saves yesterday and, in my mind, was in the running for MOM but then lets in a shot that most keepers at any semi pro level would have kept out, in the last minute. Thats not going to increase the defences confidence in him is it?
I dont necessarily agree with Clarences post but to my mind Cornell is not the main problem. There are other positions needing more attention; midfield for a start. Watching Premier League and Championship highlights the other day quite a few keepers were beaten at their near post and two what appeared to be straight at them! I notice you confidently criticize Cornell for their second goal; I prefer to listen to the comments of a personal friend of yours who suggested that there was probably a deflection via Buchanan but like me he was unsure. Whatever the reason it was a bitter pill to take after a good second half display. CJ's comment of "have to ask the keeper" is the pragmatic approach to a potential controversial issue. We certainly cannot be sure what happened after the ball was struck through a group of players but his detractors are confident enough! |
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It was poor Evers. Curle intimated as much in his interview as well.
I missed KC's interview so cannot comment. Wish you hadnt used the word 'intimated' its open to interpretation  |
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Clear line of sight, wasn't quite set and should have done better with it. Dai would agree no doubt, but hardly a howler. Just shouldn't get beat by this one. Lack of closing down is criminal, we seem so guilty of this and I see more effort in our 10-a-side games on a Monday night! |
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The stats on the BBC state that FGR had only 4 attempts on target, scoring two of those. So Cornell only made 2 saves all match. Cornell couldn't have comfortably saved too many long range attempts if those stats are accurate.
Many on here were pointing out Cornell was not good enough all the way back in August. He has since consistently shown that those who held that opinion were correct. He has cost the team 10 goals this season (maybe more), without a doubt.
Morecambe, FGR (h), FGR (a), at least 2 v Mansfield, at least 1 v Carlisle, Stevenage, just off the top of my head but there have been others. There have also been other terrible errors where only pure luck prevented other goals being conceded. The unbelievable dropped catch v MK (a) being one that many on here ignored. How many goals have we scored this season due to GK errors? 1? 0? If such errors were to be expected for a GK in L2 we would have benefited from such mistakes ourselves. Except we haven't. A GK even at this level should not be making so many errors.
He also does not command his area in any way. He rarely comes to claim a cross or to punch one away. The sum total of all this is that it breeds nervousness throughout the defence, this then breeds to the rest of the team.
Whether Ward or Coddington are not any better is not remotely the point. If Ward is no better he should never have been signed. The money on his wages should have been spent on the wages for a L2 experienced GK to be first choice leaving Cornell as back-up. I have a feeling Curle will be rectifying Austin's error during this window.
To state that the mentioned conceded goals were goalkeeping errors is outrageously inaccurate . The only true error was the slip against Stevenage . I would however agree that he should have saved the second goal yesterday but it wasn’t an error as such . Now go through every other goalkeeper in league two and scrutinise how many goals they should have saved and see how it compares . Then , look at every defender and see how many goals they should have stopped but didn’t . Ridiculous |
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I wonder if evers is man enough to admit he was wrong, and that actually replays offer much better analysis than "first impressions" from the oppostie side of the ground? |
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Clear line of sight, wasn't quite set and should have done better with it. Dai would agree no doubt, but hardly a howler. Just shouldn't get beat by this one.
Quote from Boot & Shoe "I would however agree that he should have saved the second goal yesterday but it wasn’t an error as such" . Could you please tell me what does constitute an "howler"? You both say he should have stopped it but he didn't so that MUST be a howler? PS For Evers. please note my previous comments on the match, Cornell played very well for 93.5 minutes but, in the end, cost us a point. No Witch hunt or hate campaign, just my opinion of the match |
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Not sure who it is that's beating their hands on the pitch bottom right of the video, he didn't look happy with Cornell! |
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I wonder if evers is man enough to admit he was wrong, and that actually replays offer much better analysis than "first impressions" from the oppostie side of the ground?
Zero to no chance I'd say  |
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Quote from Boot & Shoe
"I would however agree that he should have saved the second goal yesterday but it wasn’t an error as such" .
Could you please tell me what does constitute an "howler"? You both say he should have stopped it but he didn't so that MUST be a howler?
PS For Evers. please note my previous comments on the match, Cornell played very well for 93.5 minutes but, in the end, cost us a point. No Witch hunt or hate campaign, just my opinion of the match
But then perhaps he shouldn't have saved the one on one rebound after the ball came back off the post. If he hadn't we wouldn't have even had the point we were holding on to. If Hoskins hadn't missed the sitter, if Van Veen had continued into the box instead of shooting tamely from 20 yards out......if if if! All subjective. Cornell is the last line of defence.....perhaps the bloke should have been closed down before he got the shot off. Perhaps KC shouldn't have thrown Bridge on after 90 minutes and disrupted things.... So many variables. Not defending Cornell as such....he should have saved the shot....but who's to say that another keeper would have? Everyone is human, everyone makes mistakes. League 2 keepers make mistakes..... |
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We will never get out of this league with players like Cornell and Hoskins in the starting 11 FACT.
Of course it isn't 'FACT' at all, it is your opinion. Personally, I would be happy for any of the players to leave including the so-called class-acts as they are all a part of this wretched group. With regards to the goalie, I believe we have been spoilt in recent years by goalies who have been well above average. Cornell is average, the team as a whole are exceedingly poor. |
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That angle confirms what I thought at the time... given way too much time and space, just as we had done most of the game |
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Could you please tell me what does constitute an "howler"? You both say he should have stopped it but he didn't so that MUST be a howler?
Depends on your view, in my opinion it isn't. It is not the same for example as the ball being hit straight at him and him fumbling it in, missing a kick on a back pass that ends up in the net, or slipping at the crucial moment like against Stevenage. Expected to save it? Yes. A mistake/error? Yes. Howler? No. The same as a striker missing a one on one, I would not class that as a howler but if they went round the keeper and skied the ball over an empty net from five yards then I would. Hope this clears things up for you, but like everything it is only my opinion and others may feel differently. Which is cool.  |
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