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« Reply #620 on: April 12, 2019, 13:18:38 pm »

Good comeback, I didnít realise that I had offended you/hit a nerve - just putting forward the other side of the argument. If youíre going to set yourself up as the Julian Assange of the training ground then I think itís only fair that you provide specifics or at least give KC a fair deal. Before I get accused of being a Curle happy clapper I was thoroughly underwhelmed when he was appointed but I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt (we have no other option anyway so you might as well get any notion of Kevin wilkin etc out of your head) and see what the start of next season brings, the style of football is attritional at times to say the least but Iím interested to see if it has been a pragmatic short term decision and whether he can put together an effective and vaguely attractive squad.

Well said Irchy. Some people seem to think there is better out there, until they arrive and then those same people complain about the style of football or the way they talk or whatever else they can think of. Gary Johnson was a fans choice and look what happened with that.

Normally teams take a day off during the week. KC maybe takes Monday off instead of Wednesday so he can get his points across in the four remaining days of the week. That's his choice.
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« Reply #621 on: April 12, 2019, 13:31:49 pm »

Whatever

I find it extraordinary naive for some posters to recommend/urge non league managers to be considered. One example is the citing of the Brackley Town Manager to be given a chance having had some success at lower league level. It might have been more relevant if Brackley/or Wilkin were in the Conference.
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« Reply #622 on: April 12, 2019, 13:35:17 pm »

What good reason is that?

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« Reply #623 on: April 12, 2019, 13:40:10 pm »

If the training ground/dressing room is such a seething pit of misery then how come the out of contract players are more or less queuing up to beg for another 1/2 years (and before anyone suggests it even the likes of bowditch and Powell will have no difficulties whatsoever in finding another club to take them on)?
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« Reply #624 on: April 12, 2019, 14:12:05 pm »

I find it extraordinary naive for some posters to recommend/urge non league managers to be considered. .
The Cowley brothers at Lincoln haven't done too bad. They were PE teachers in Southend whilst managing Concord Rangers, moved to Braintree and the rest is history.
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« Reply #625 on: April 12, 2019, 14:35:36 pm »

The Cowley brothers at Lincoln haven't done too bad. They were PE teachers in Southend whilst managing Concord Rangers, moved to Braintree and the rest is history.

Braintree were in the Conference at the time and finished 3rd. That was my point being in the Conference. Under those circumstances NTFC might well have considered the Bros. Similar to Wilder?
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« Reply #626 on: April 12, 2019, 16:04:37 pm »

If the training ground/dressing room is such a seething pit of misery then how come the out of contract players are more or less queuing up to beg for another 1/2 years

money

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« Reply #627 on: April 12, 2019, 16:40:05 pm »

money

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Money what - regardless of what you or any of us think about the players none of them will be unemployed next season.
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« Reply #628 on: April 12, 2019, 16:54:04 pm »

Money what - regardless of what you or any of us think about the players none of them will be unemployed next season.

Apart from Iaciofano and possibly Goff and Coddington, who if released will probably need to play at a lower level and get proper jobs.
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« Reply #629 on: April 12, 2019, 20:45:35 pm »

Money what - regardless of what you or any of us think about the players none of them will be unemployed next season.

Yes, money. As in how much. They may very well get a job at Sawbridge United on 2/6 a week but they would rather be earning 4 gazillion at NTFC for doing rugger all. Get shot of the lot of them. We can't do much worse. Can we?
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« Reply #630 on: April 12, 2019, 20:51:10 pm »

My point was that most of them will get a 1 or 2 year contract either with us or elsewhere in this league/the conference -  in football there is always some mug who thinks they can get the best out of a Daniel Powell or a Dean Bowditch on a consistent basis (I just hope that we arenít the mug in question).
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« Reply #631 on: April 12, 2019, 23:58:24 pm »

If the training ground/dressing room is such a seething pit of misery then how come the out of contract players are more or less queuing up to beg for another 1/2 years (and before anyone suggests it even the likes of bowditch and Powell will have no difficulties whatsoever in finding another club to take them on)?

I disagree Irchy I think you may find even Buchs ends up in the conference
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« Reply #632 on: April 13, 2019, 00:00:38 am »

My point was that most of them will get a 1 or 2 year contract either with us or elsewhere in this league/the conference -  in football there is always some mug who thinks they can get the best out of a Daniel Powell or a Dean Bowditch on a consistent basis (I just hope that we arenít the mug in question).

I bet they don't Irchy - I reckon even Buchs will end up no higher than the conference!
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« Reply #633 on: April 13, 2019, 13:50:30 pm »

Dave Bowen did well without managing elsewhere.  Instead of expecting results after 10 games, give managers time.

The more I look at lower league football, the more I see a set of footballers and managers drifting from one club to club to another for a season or two looking for another wage.  It's actually a sad life unless you make it big somewhere.

I still watch the Cobblers when they play up North, but do not expect much.  The night at Macclesfield this season was good.

The game at Morecambe...





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« Reply #634 on: April 13, 2019, 21:23:20 pm »

What really really bothers me was how KT has allowed us to get into this position!

Its been clear for weeks and weeks we need creatvity in midfield along with a real ball-winner - we really do miss  Crooks in there for that in my opinion!

The midfield has been too airy fairy((un PC) and easily knocked off the ball all year this has never been addressed! - Having said that Foley was our man of the match by a country mile today and has really improved the last few weeks.

On top of all this what also really worries me any ball over the top against any striker with pace cause us all sorts of trouble.

So I think those people who think sign a couple of forwards and we will be okay are mistaken! - We need 5 - 6 players to turn us into a play off challenging team!

The other real bother I have is how Curle can allow us to go into a game with just Hoskins as a striking option? and the quality of the loan players we have had in are garbage - you just have to look at the quality of other teams strikers all season  to see these quality players are avalible to get on loan (its just having the contacts!) - does Taly ho old bean have these?Huh?

I was speaing to a few Mansfield fans today on leaving and their come from the Kent area sotheir  knew lots about him before he cam on loan as pasrt of the Morias deal - they think if he continues to score a high end league 1 or champ club will come in for him in the summer as Butron don't want him, but he is clearly quality from todays showing!

Lets hope things improve - thePollock lad  brings some more creativity

I feel this won't change things over night tho and we need 3 or 4 more players to become a challenger - also is this all too late now?

Last point is why on earth did he  throw Morias on todday? - What the hell had he got to lose the last 10-15 mins? And how does he feel not only does a centre half play up front in front of him, but he doesn't even get on when drawing 1-1 with 10 mins to go!!!???!!!

Also Hoskins was totally dire yesterday looked like a park player and there is no way he will be getting a new contract in my opnion!
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« Reply #635 on: April 13, 2019, 22:02:32 pm »

Sorry. You thought Foley was motm by a mile? Fair play, we saw that game very differently  Grin I lost count of the number of times he aimlessly hoofed the ball in the first half.

Certainly wouldn't knock his efforts, but for me he's a very average league 2 player. Hoping that we don't offer him a new deal personally.
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« Reply #636 on: April 13, 2019, 22:33:00 pm »

What really really bothers me was how KT has allowed us to get into this position!

Its been clear for weeks and weeks we need creatvity in midfield along with a real ball-winner - we really do miss  Crooks in there for that in my opinion!

The midfield has been too airy fairy((un PC) and easily knocked off the ball all year this has never been addressed! - Having said that Foley was our man of the match by a country mile today and has really improved the last few weeks.

On top of all this what also really worries me any ball over the top against any striker with pace cause us all sorts of trouble.

So I think those people who think sign a couple of forwards and we will be okay are mistaken! - We need 5 - 6 players to turn us into a play off challenging team!

The other real bother I have is how Curle can allow us to go into a game with just Hoskins as a striking option? and the quality of the loan players we have had in are garbage - you just have to look at the quality of other teams strikers all season  to see these quality players are avalible to get on loan (its just having the contacts!) - does Taly ho old bean have these?Huh?

I was speaing to a few Mansfield fans today on leaving and their come from the Kent area sotheir  knew lots about him before he cam on loan as pasrt of the Morias deal - they think if he continues to score a high end league 1 or champ club will come in for him in the summer as Butron don't want him, but he is clearly quality from todays showing!

Lets hope things improve - thePollock lad  brings some more creativity

I feel this won't change things over night tho and we need 3 or 4 more players to become a challenger - also is this all too late now?

Last point is why on earth did he  throw Morias on todday? - What the hell had he got to lose the last 10-15 mins? And how does he feel not only does a centre half play up front in front of him, but he doesn't even get on when drawing 1-1 with 10 mins to go!!!???!!!

Also Hoskins was totally dire yesterday looked like a park player and there is no way he will be getting a new contract in my opnion!
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« Reply #637 on: April 13, 2019, 22:45:06 pm »

Someone?  anyone please?

I can see BMON now swilling champagne on the settee, havana cigar. Idly tapping away on his keyboard confusing us all!
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« Reply #638 on: April 16, 2019, 09:50:13 am »

I was Havana cigar near Notre-Dame.
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« Reply #639 on: June 06, 2019, 00:37:12 am »

Despite all the negativity on these boards over the last few months, I believe that the 8 signings so far, prove that KC/KT are up for the fight, and their intent to achieve promotion is clear... 2019/20 might just be special...   Wink
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