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« Reply #180 on: February 03, 2019, 09:53:35 am »



 i feel he will get it right, but i wish he would go with 3-5-2.
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« Reply #181 on: February 03, 2019, 10:00:04 am »

That he went with 3-5-2 knowing Colchester's style of play and that they had signed two rapid wingers is just nuts really.
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« Reply #182 on: February 03, 2019, 10:48:33 am »

That he went with 3-5-2 knowing Colchester's style of play and that they had signed two rapid wingers is just nuts really.

I agree with your point but neither of the 2 wingers they signed started the game - McGreal brought Eisa on for the start of the second half and if it was tactical then it was an inspired decision and one that KC didn’t react to. Having said that their number 7 ripped us apart in the first half in any case.
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« Reply #183 on: February 03, 2019, 11:40:33 am »

I agree with your point but neither of the 2 wingers they signed started the game - McGreal brought Eisa on for the start of the second half and if it was tactical then it was an inspired decision and one that KC didn’t react to. Having said that their number 7 ripped us apart in the first half in any case.

True dat.
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« Reply #184 on: February 03, 2019, 18:25:20 pm »

He will be sacked.
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« Reply #185 on: February 03, 2019, 18:42:17 pm »

He will be sacked.

One day he probably will be.
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« Reply #186 on: February 03, 2019, 18:47:21 pm »

Williams twice? Surely you're not suggesting Jay Williams.
I’m not suggesting anything .
KC said there were players on the bench not happy they weren’t playing .
I’m just pointing out that can only really refer to three players from the bench yesterday .
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« Reply #187 on: February 03, 2019, 18:55:45 pm »

I’m not suggesting anything .
KC said there were players on the bench not happy they weren’t playing .
I’m just pointing out that can only really refer to three players from the bench yesterday .

No, he said there are players in the changing room. What he means is there are players within the squad. I agree, Andy Williams seems frustrated at not starting and David Buchanan possibly. But I can't see young Jay Williams being unhappy at not starting when he's only recently got a pro deal.
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« Reply #188 on: February 03, 2019, 19:24:29 pm »

No, he said there are players in the changing room. What he means is there are players within the squad. I agree, Andy Williams seems frustrated at not starting and David Buchanan possibly. But I can't see young Jay Williams being unhappy at not starting when he's only recently got a pro deal.

I think he probably means Bowditch, Turnbull (if not injured) and Buchanan, who I think has been playing much better under KC and therefore may be annoyed at not starting. I can't be sure, obviously, but now is a very bad time to start having problems in the changing room. It is also a very bad time to start using a 3-5-2 system that we're ill equpped for. If that's the system he wants, go for it next year with appropriate changes in personnel. This year it might just get us relegated.

The only thing I think he got right on Saturday was fielding a more "physical" team. Our youngsters have promise, but look a bit lightweight and get bullied off the ball. IMO that includes Jay Williams, despite the bright future I'm sure he has. However, we need to use a system more suited to our players and we need a better combination of grit and pace in midfield JJOT and Elsnik are both slow, and Elsnik doesn't seem very strong in the tackle. Let's hope we either play 5-3-2 from now on to shore up the defence or 4-4-2. Whichever he chooses I hope he sticks with it long enough for players to start gaining an understanding of it and plays the same team at least twice in a row. Perhaps he'll start taking some blame for our defeats too rather than always blaming the players, as if he has no influence over the way they play.
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« Reply #189 on: February 04, 2019, 11:01:49 am »

Can’t judge Curlio completely until the squad is his own. Trouble is that once it is and if he then fails we’re back to a new bloke working with someone else’s squad as per the last few seasons. Still he could possibly succeed, he’ll then be off to manage a championship club and we’re back to a new bloke working with someone else’s squad as per the last few seasons.
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« Reply #190 on: February 04, 2019, 11:38:50 am »

Can’t judge Curlio completely until the squad is his own. Trouble is that once it is and if he then fails we’re back to a new bloke working with someone else’s squad as per the last few seasons. Still he could possibly succeed, he’ll then be off to manage a championship club and we’re back to a new bloke working with someone else’s squad as per the last few seasons.

I agree on this, but I think as it is not completely his own squad then he should look closely at his 352 set up and also zonal marking and go back to playing what the players understand and know can work. Once he has his own players then go for his preferred way of playing, or at least change it until we are safe then mess around all you like.
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« Reply #191 on: February 04, 2019, 11:57:27 am »

A new manager always has to inherit other people’s players and systems .
It takes three or four transfer windows to get your own players in whether you are a premier league manager or a Conference manager .
If you don’t make the most of what you inherit - then you don’t get the time needed to get your own players in .
In my view , Curle hasn’t got the best out of what we have got yet and needs to get things sorted out on the training pitch . We look a shambles and have failed to close down and pick up properly for weeks on end now.
I have heard he is not around as much as you might expect . Maybe he needs to get some focus himself and shape up .
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« Reply #192 on: February 04, 2019, 12:50:56 pm »

I've heard through the grapevine that there are some very unhappy campers in the dressing room, seems like the constant chopping and changing is taking its toll.
Curlio is beginning to loose the dressing room.
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« Reply #193 on: February 04, 2019, 13:05:28 pm »

I've heard through the grapevine that there are some very unhappy campers in the dressing room, seems like the constant chopping and changing is taking its toll.
Curlio is beginning to loose the dressing room.

He as much as said that on Saturday mate, and who can blame them
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« Reply #194 on: February 04, 2019, 13:12:33 pm »

He as much as said that on Saturday mate, and who can blame them

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« Reply #195 on: February 04, 2019, 13:34:46 pm »

I've heard through the grapevine that there are some very unhappy campers in the dressing room, seems like the constant chopping and changing is taking its toll.
Curlio is beginning to loose the dressing room.
Two more games , maybe three
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« Reply #196 on: February 04, 2019, 14:30:19 pm »

He as much as said that on Saturday mate, and who can blame them

Yeah. I'm with Boot and Shoe. I think he will be gone before the end of the month. Things aren't right at all.
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« Reply #197 on: February 04, 2019, 15:22:20 pm »

I cant see KT making another managerial change unless the gap comes down to 3 or 4 points. Thankfully, Macc have lost their last 2 so have made no dent into it.

I reckon for Curle to keep his job, its all about that gap. 6 or 7 (with a game in hand) is 'comfortable' but 3 or 4 (without a game in hand) equals game on.

Including cup games, we've been appalling for 15 or so games bar the win versus Carlisle and the odd 45 minutes or so here and there. Its impossible to put up a case for Curle at the minute given he got the players showing what they are capable of during his honeymoon period and when he kept things simple. He's also had a transfer window and has brought in 5 of his own players in it.

Tomorrow and Saturday...we need something from one of them. Id say we need 4 points from the next 3 games to settle things down, otherwise we could yet see yet another manager. Its been a farce for a long time!

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« Reply #198 on: February 04, 2019, 15:52:02 pm »

Yeah. I'm with Boot and Shoe. I think he will be gone before the end of the month. Things aren't right at all.

This seems to be an on-going problem. It has been said about the last five managers - that things aren't right. I'm coming to the conclusion that's it's nothing to do with the managers and everything to do with the players. Let's hope we can get to the summer still in league 2 and get rid of most of them.
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« Reply #199 on: February 04, 2019, 16:53:22 pm »

This summer is a big chance to rid the squad of the underperformers and start a fresh. I suspect the players know it so have downed tools.

I dont trust KFC to be the man to do it.  For me id sack him and go all out for Paul Hurst or Paul Heckingbottom

Giving Curle the keys to the vault in June will set us back 3 years.

Biggest problem is anybody who is anybody will want cash to spend.
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