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« Reply #260 on: February 14, 2019, 07:33:26 am »

To be honest if he goes with 1 up front and we win I will be happy. At this point in time I see it as all about getting the points on the board so we are safe. Then after that start looking at who you want to keep for next season and how we play for next season. We have had nearly 3 seasons of crap football and getting beat left, right and centre I just want to see a few wins. The nice positive football can come after that.

Agreed but it is groundhog day. Get to the end of the season, rip everything up. Thinking in 6 monthly cycles.
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« Reply #261 on: February 14, 2019, 07:34:40 am »

People are missing the point here .
The supporters have one chance to listen to a managers post match comments and there is one person selected to ask the questions .
If that one person knows nothing about football and is not taken seriously,we as supporters learn nothing .
It's not a case of switching managers because there is no other choice .
This manager has been employed as  the manager and he is not out of his depth .Unfortunately,his boss doesn't appear to think so according to his comments so that's where the problem lies .
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« Reply #262 on: February 14, 2019, 08:45:43 am »

As B&S has alluded to elsewhere it will be very interesting to see what team he puts out on Saturday on the back of 2 improved, backs to the wall, defensive away games with a lone forward. Will he go with the same which would be pretty negative for a home game or will he change it again?

Do you mean the style of play used the last two games or playing 1 up front being negative (or both)?

There is nothing negative about playing 1 up front as long as the team's general style is positive and the 2 attacking midfielders behind the striker (and to some extent the wing-backs) are given enough freedom. That's often more attacking than a standard 3-5-2 IMO
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« Reply #263 on: February 14, 2019, 09:37:33 am »

Barring a miracle (which didn't happen) this season was screwed after 10 games.

Austin was a liability, certain players were also culpable but either way, my only hope and expectation for Curlio was to steer us to mid table and I believe he will.

Beyond that, he has to be given a close season to try and sort things out. He is as capable as anyone we can hope to get so lets give him the chance
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« Reply #264 on: February 14, 2019, 10:35:33 am »

Barring a miracle (which didn't happen) this season was screwed after 10 games.

Austin was a liability, certain players were also culpable but either way, my only hope and expectation for Curlio was to steer us to mid table and I believe he will.

Beyond that, he has to be given a close season to try and sort things out. He is as capable as anyone we can hope to get so lets give him the chance

He's contracted till the end of next season so that's the basics of the situation.

Was absolutely the right man for the job to keep us up but beyond that, not a great deal to suggest he is a longer term prospect for us (yet). His go-to formation, 3-5-2, was annihilated by Colchester in every way. His response has been to fill the side with the most reliable, sturdy players. It's pretty basic stuff.

One option might have been to give him a contract till the end of the season and then re-assess but he had the nap hand when we were in big trouble.

Think there has been only 1 back to back victory in Curle's time here and that included a dire Macclesfield side. Show some cohesive, expansive football, some tactical fluidity and a couple of back to back wins and then he'll be a contender. Just giving a manager the summer and hoping will likely end up with us back to square one as it has done for as long as I can remember.
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« Reply #265 on: February 14, 2019, 11:33:32 am »

Id like us to get to 50points. Once achieved, ONLY PLAYERS who KC is going to keep next season, get to play. Absolutely pointless playing out the last 4/6/8 games trying to grind out results (optimistic thinking is that we secure safety with a few games to spare) just to tick boxes because finishing 8th warrants the same end result as finishing 22nd.

If I was the manager, pre-season would start the moment we hit 50points. Lets get a heads start on most of our rivals! If Powell isn't going to be offered a contract (for example), he's left out. etc.
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« Reply #266 on: February 14, 2019, 12:36:10 pm »

There is no "ladder effect" of payments due to league position.
Here's what the club gets irrespective of position in their respective league.
Basic award across the EFL:
Championship – £2.084m.
League 1 – £677,000.
League 2 – £472,000.

Premier League Solidarity payment across the EFL:
Championship – £4.3m
League 1 – £645,000.
League 2 – £430,000

so as a L1 club we got £1.32m our relegation means we now get £902k net loss of £430k OUCH.
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« Reply #267 on: February 14, 2019, 12:50:30 pm »

Id like us to get to 50points. Once achieved, ONLY PLAYERS who KC is going to keep next season, get to play. Absolutely pointless playing out the last 4/6/8 games trying to grind out results (optimistic thinking is that we secure safety with a few games to spare) just to tick boxes because finishing 8th warrants the same end result as finishing 22nd.

If I was the manager, pre-season would start the moment we hit 50points. Lets get a heads start on most of our rivals! If Powell isn't going to be offered a contract (for example), he's left out. etc.


Fully agree with this, lets get safe then treat the rest of the games as early pre-season. That includes dishing out new contracts to those who we want and who want to stay. Anyone who is deemed surplus to requirements should be removed from the first team for the remainder, that includes training.
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« Reply #268 on: February 14, 2019, 14:29:39 pm »

Do you mean the style of play used the last two games or playing 1 up front being negative (or both)?

There is nothing negative about playing 1 up front as long as the team's general style is positive and the 2 attacking midfielders behind the striker (and to some extent the wing-backs) are given enough freedom. That's often more attacking than a standard 3-5-2 IMO

I agree with the gist of your post - by the sounds of it the tactics worked well at tranmere and Lincoln but we didn’t create a great deal in either match. In that system the onus is on bridge and jjot to support Hoskins but there is a real fear of Sam becoming isolated especially in a home game. Also the wing backs become very important and to be fair to buchs he has already been found wanting going forward from that position. We haven’t had an injury update this week but I think facey went off with a thigh strain last Saturday so I’d assume that one of the McWilliams boys will have to fill in? I haven’t heard any update on foley either.
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« Reply #269 on: February 14, 2019, 14:45:14 pm »

Foley's doubtful with a back injury. Sordell is out with medial knee ligament injury.
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« Reply #270 on: February 14, 2019, 16:10:15 pm »

Do you mean the style of play used the last two games or playing 1 up front being negative (or both)?

There is nothing negative about playing 1 up front as long as the team's general style is positive and the 2 attacking midfielders behind the striker (and to some extent the wing-backs) are given enough freedom. That's often more attacking than a standard 3-5-2 IMO
This can be true - except it’s not in our case because our full backs don’t push on too much and the midfielders are holding players . The exception to this is Bridge who has a big part to play .
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« Reply #271 on: February 15, 2019, 08:26:54 am »

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« Reply #272 on: February 16, 2019, 16:40:21 pm »

I think KC must be 10 years ahead of his time because instead of a 'false' 9, today he invented an 'INVISIBLE' number 9 !!!!!!!!!!!!


The midfield did not help because they did not make any runs in advance of Hoskins.
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« Reply #273 on: February 16, 2019, 16:59:19 pm »

At least 'the building blocks are in place'. Shame the same can't be said for the East Stand.
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« Reply #274 on: February 16, 2019, 21:03:56 pm »

Following that team selection for a home game and subsequent substitutions, what’s his agenda?
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« Reply #275 on: February 16, 2019, 21:34:08 pm »

Following that team selection for a home game and subsequent substitutions, what’s his agenda?

Facey,Foley,Turnbull and 'Sorbet' all missing or hadn't you noticed or even chose to ignore the selection predicament?
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« Reply #276 on: February 16, 2019, 21:51:03 pm »

Facey,Foley,Turnbull and 'Sorbet' all missing or hadn't you noticed or even chose to ignore the selection predicament?
Morias and Williams on the bench, don’t be stupid
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« Reply #277 on: February 16, 2019, 21:57:52 pm »

Morias and Williams on the bench, don’t be stupid

Wow - real game changers and both seemingly out of favour Roll Eyes
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« Reply #278 on: February 16, 2019, 22:00:05 pm »

Following that team selection for a home game and subsequent substitutions, what’s his agenda?
I think his agenda is the out door, would be very surprised if he's still here next season.
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« Reply #279 on: February 17, 2019, 05:45:49 am »

Facey,Foley,Turnbull and 'Sorbet' all missing or hadn't you noticed or even chose to ignore the selection predicament?
He said he is having to use other managers players YET he brought in two midfielders and said yesterday we lacked creativity!!!
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