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« Reply #320 on: February 19, 2019, 10:06:18 am »

There were rumours of Williams going to Salford in January weren't there? Now he seems to be out of favour with Curle. I am thinking maybe either Williams wanted out and the deal didn't go through or Curle wanted him out but Williams didn't want to go.

Williams scored 8 in 10 games from mid-Oct to the end of December. He then failed to score in three starts and has been benched for 5 games in a row, failing to come on in two of those and then obviously only had 5 mins against Crawley on Saturday.

With van Veen and Crooks being sold he is our top scorer with 8 goals which is double the next two players; Morias and Pierre(!)

He's the only natural goal scorer we have and needs to be played. I don't know why he'd been dropped but he needs to come back in asap.
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« Reply #321 on: February 19, 2019, 10:07:51 am »

None of the players mentioned are our assets nor likely to be at the club in the medium term. Meanwhile, the star u-18's barely get an inroad.

Roberts came on as first sub on Saturday.

Other than J Williams are any of the others ready?
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« Reply #322 on: February 19, 2019, 10:09:11 am »


He's the only natural goal scorer we have and needs to be played.

Disagree that A Williams is our only natural goal scorer. I think Morias looks like he is a bigger threat if anything, he's certainly a real pest in respect of occupying defenders.
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« Reply #323 on: February 19, 2019, 10:14:39 am »

Disagree that A Williams is our only natural goal scorer. I think Morias looks like he is a bigger threat if anything, he's certainly a real pest in respect of occupying defenders.

Not saying Morias doesn't give defenders something to think about (just like Hoskins does) but I think Williams is the only one I feel confident will put a chance away given the opportunity. His good run of form seems to have been rewarded with time on the bench.
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« Reply #324 on: February 19, 2019, 10:34:15 am »

Not saying Morias doesn't give defenders something to think about (just like Hoskins does) but I think Williams is the only one I feel confident will put a chance away given the opportunity. His good run of form seems to have been rewarded with time on the bench.

I think Hoskins is playing for 2 reasons, 1 the counter and 2 for his defensive work to stop the rot.

I would have done similar on Saturday but probably would have brought on Williams earlier.
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« Reply #325 on: February 19, 2019, 10:51:27 am »

I think Hoskins is playing for 2 reasons, 1 the counter and 2 for his defensive work to stop the rot.

I would have done similar on Saturday but probably would have brought on Williams earlier.

Reasonable comment; regarding Williams (A )there is clearly an apparent issue between him and KC. Otherwise he would have been on much sooner on Saturday. Must admit have been a little disappointed with Williams overall displays particularly in away games.
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« Reply #326 on: February 19, 2019, 10:52:36 am »

Roberts came on as first sub on Saturday.

Other than J Williams are any of the others ready?

No
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« Reply #327 on: February 19, 2019, 11:08:21 am »

I think Hoskins is playing for 2 reasons, 1 the counter and 2 for his defensive work to stop the rot.

I would have done similar on Saturday but probably would have brought on Williams earlier.

Or start with both?
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« Reply #328 on: February 19, 2019, 11:18:37 am »

No

Based on?

Camron McWilliams certainly looked useful in pre-season, and in my opinion is worthy of the backup role with Facey injured or Goode in a back three.
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« Reply #329 on: February 19, 2019, 11:19:50 am »

Williams scored 8 in 10 games from mid-Oct to the end of December. He then failed to score in three starts and has been benched for 5 games in a row, failing to come on in two of those and then obviously only had 5 mins against Crawley on Saturday.

With van Veen and Crooks being sold he is our top scorer with 8 goals which is double the next two players; Morias and Pierre(!)

He's the only natural goal scorer we have and needs to be played. I don't know why he'd been dropped but he needs to come back in asap.

Completely agree, which is why i am thinking its a more personal thing between him and Curle rather than football related reasons. Just speculation from my side though...
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« Reply #330 on: February 19, 2019, 11:22:34 am »

Roberts came on as first sub on Saturday.

Other than J Williams are any of the others ready?
The centre back on loan at St Neots. Played more men's games than any of the others. Very tall, left-footed, brave and can play a bit. No sign of him getting a chance. Not sure he is in KC's plans. That goes for a few others. Doesn't matter how highly they are thought of in the academy, KC has final decision. If he doesn't rate them, they will be released in the near future.
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« Reply #331 on: February 19, 2019, 12:04:27 pm »

What I am puzzled by is the fact that the young lads we bring in from other clubs don’t appear to be any better than the ones we have in our own academy .
That’s not just this season , it seems to be a pattern .
Is Powell really any better than Williams for example ?
Was Poole any better than MacWilliams last season ?
Is Cox so much better than Cameron MacWilliams ?
A lot of it is down to first team experience I think .
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« Reply #332 on: February 19, 2019, 12:22:00 pm »

The centre back on loan at St Neots. Played more men's games than any of the others. Very tall, left-footed, brave and can play a bit. No sign of him getting a chance. Not sure he is in KC's plans. That goes for a few others. Doesn't matter how highly they are thought of in the academy, KC has final decision. If he doesn't rate them, they will be released in the near future.

And therein lies the problem.
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« Reply #333 on: February 19, 2019, 12:43:50 pm »

We played a lot of kids against Cambridge and they got a rude welcome to Mens football.

It has to be a gradual process.
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« Reply #334 on: February 19, 2019, 13:17:57 pm »

Based on?

Camron McWilliams certainly looked useful in pre-season, and in my opinion is worthy of the backup role with Facey injured or Goode in a back three.

I forgot about his brother, apologies!
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« Reply #335 on: February 19, 2019, 13:42:55 pm »

What I am puzzled by is the fact that the young lads we bring in from other clubs don’t appear to be any better than the ones we have in our own academy .
That’s not just this season , it seems to be a pattern .
Is Powell really any better than Williams for example ?
Was Poole any better than MacWilliams last season ?
Is Cox so much better than Cameron MacWilliams ?
A lot of it is down to first team experience I think .
I agree with above. The goalkeeper is the best we've had come through the academy in years and he doesn't get a mention.
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« Reply #336 on: February 19, 2019, 13:57:25 pm »

Don’t get me wrong I’d rather see one of our own in the first team than joe Powell or elsnik and unless they’re given an opportunity we’ll never know if they’re ready, but with the possible exception of Jay Williams (who still needs to fill out a bit which will come as he matures) are any of the others physically ready for league football? I agree with Coolcat to a degree in saying that when Morgan Roberts came on he looked about 14 - it wouldn’t be so much of an issue if he was rapid but he didn’t look particularly quick.
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« Reply #337 on: February 19, 2019, 14:03:23 pm »

I agree with above. The goalkeeper is the best we've had come through the academy in years and he doesn't get a mention.

Isn't Goff injured? The reason he doesn't get mentioned is that with Coddington still on the books, KC is always going to put him on the bench.

If Coddington is released in the summer (you would presume this would happen), I would expect Goff to get a new contract and play the back up role to Cornell.
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« Reply #338 on: February 19, 2019, 14:03:59 pm »

Don’t get me wrong I’d rather see one of our own in the first team than joe Powell or elsnik and unless they’re given an opportunity we’ll never know if they’re ready, but with the possible exception of Jay Williams (who still needs to fill out a bit which will come as he matures) are any of the others physically ready for league football? I agree with Coolcat to a degree in saying that when Morgan Roberts came on he looked about 14 - it wouldn’t be so much of an issue if he was rapid but he didn’t look particularly quick.

The only exception I can think of is Michael Jacobs who was only 17(?) when he started playing regularly for us and, despite looking like he was fresh out of secondary school, was head and shoulders above anybody else of the pitch most weeks. 
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« Reply #339 on: February 19, 2019, 14:19:26 pm »

Don’t get me wrong I’d rather see one of our own in the first team than joe Powell or elsnik and unless they’re given an opportunity we’ll never know if they’re ready, but with the possible exception of Jay Williams (who still needs to fill out a bit which will come as he matures) are any of the others physically ready for league football? I agree with Coolcat to a degree in saying that when Morgan Roberts came on he looked about 14 - it wouldn’t be so much of an issue if he was rapid but he didn’t look particularly quick.
Morgan has the skill, pace and awareness to be the next Michael Jacobs but what he does not have is experience, which I hope he gets once we are safe in League 2 this season (along with 2 or 3 others).

Yes he is slight but Messi and Silva seem to cope!
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