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« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2019, 15:03:34 pm »

Are they answers or questions?

Both, my take on the answers that I believe have previously been provided on here.
Followed by question marks because they are subject to anyone else providing current information to confirm or amend my answers.
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« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2019, 15:08:48 pm »

As Iíve said before the club has become an apathetic wasteland.
People including myself are no longer bothered
Years upon years of broken promises and worse have made the cobblers a long standing farce in the county in general.
Year upon year this situation is just reinforcing itself to the households of Northamptonshire.

A massive catchment area but most people in the county see the local football team as a blight and an embarrassment
Go into pubs in any of the county towns and ask who is going to the cobblers at the weekend
Most communities outside of the town itself are actually ashamed of the club.
A sad but true fact
These northamptonians would rather watch premier teams on sky than ever step foot in sixfields as it is perceived as a Mickey Mouse tinpot outfit that stumbles from one crisis to the next and has never been owned by anyone with the finances to be an attractive/decent proposition for people to spend their leisure pound.

Sad but true.
Thought Iíd just put it out there....

There are more holes in that than Swiss cheese.

The loan amount was 10k. And it wasn't given to KT. He hadn't even signed on the dotted line at that point as far as I'm aware. So if he does do anything for that money, he's doing us and the Trust a favour.

The Trust didn't give up their place on the board. It virtually disappeared during the DC days. Partly because the club actually employed the Trusts chairman in the chief exec role  Grin Also because DC didn't give a shyte about the Trust. KT has decided that he doesn't want someone from the Trust on the board. That's his choice, and as far as I can see, the choice of other connected parties.

It's a bizarre world that we live in. A few weeks back, there was a bit of debate on here that absolutely epitomised the lack of business acumen that runs rife within our support. Somebody highlighted the fact that MK Dons were/are struggling financially. In response to this, a number of our support come up with a plan. That plan consisted of the Saints moving to MK and NTFC moving to the saints ground. Now I could list the more than obvious flaws in that plan. But.. Suffice to say.. It sums up the vast majority of delusional cr@p that is spouted by a lot of our support.  
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« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2019, 16:16:22 pm »

There are more holes in that than Swiss cheese.

The loan amount was 10k. And it wasn't given to KT. He hadn't even signed on the dotted line at that point as far as I'm aware. So if he does do anything for that money, he's doing us and the Trust a favour.

The Trust didn't give up their place on the board. It virtually disappeared during the DC days. Partly because the club actually employed the Trusts chairman in the chief exec role  Grin Also because DC didn't give a shyte about the Trust. KT has decided that he doesn't want someone from the Trust on the board. That's his choice, and as far as I can see, the choice of other connected parties.

It's a bizarre world that we live in. A few weeks back, there was a bit of debate on here that absolutely epitomised the lack of business acumen that runs rife within our support. Somebody highlighted the fact that MK Dons were/are struggling financially. In response to this, a number of our support come up with a plan. That plan consisted of the Saints moving to MK and NTFC moving to the saints ground. Now I could list the more than obvious flaws in that plan. But.. Suffice to say.. It sums up the vast majority of delusional cr@p that is spouted by a lot of our support.  

From memory giving up any trust representation on the board was a condition of KT taking over.
Has everyone conveniently forgotten that?
The trust wasnít set up by Brian lomax to basically be ousted/marginalised/disbanded just because an owner didnít like it.
Ask KT for board representation back and if he refuses then ask him why.

He could appoint a trust member into the board today if he wished and they would have a right to know exactly what has been happening....
Chinese saga
Redevelopment
I said it then and itís stands true now
When an owner comes in and puts a gun to the club saying il take over but you will no longer have a position on the new board it rightly or wrongly leaves the perception of secrecy and non transparency.
Given years down the line we are a league two club playing in a building site I only wish the trust had been allowed to keep its board representation and relay what HAS actually happened over this period.

As it stands there is no point in having a trust as it serves no purpose.
For that reason I see no benefit in holding meetings regards purchasing the club
Pie in the sky.
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« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2019, 16:35:24 pm »

From memory giving up any trust representation on the board was a condition of KT taking over.
Has everyone conveniently forgotten that?
The trust wasnít set up by Brian lomax to basically be ousted/marginalised/disbanded just because an owner didnít like it.
Ask KT for board representation back and if he refuses then ask him why.

He could appoint a trust member into the board today if he wished and they would have a right to know exactly what has been happening....
Chinese saga
Redevelopment
I said it then and itís stands true now
When an owner comes in and puts a gun to the club saying il take over but you will no longer have a position on the new board it rightly or wrongly leaves the perception of secrecy and non transparency.
Given years down the line we are a league two club playing in a building site I only wish the trust had been allowed to keep its board representation and relay what HAS actually happened over this period.

As it stands there is no point in having a trust as it serves no purpose.
For that reason I see no benefit in holding meetings regards purchasing the club
Pie in the sky.


At least I gave a reasonable response, you're just making it up...
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« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2019, 17:05:51 pm »

At least I gave a reasonable response, you're just making it up...
Il leave you all to it
Youíre doing well so far.
Il dip in and out and see how this takeover progresses Roll Eyes
Iíd keep a few buckets handy for further down the line
Good luck though.
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« Reply #45 on: February 25, 2019, 17:24:38 pm »

Wasnt there a Trust representative on the board when the DC saga was unfolding ? How did that work out ? Were we in the know or are we still waiting for answers?
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« Reply #46 on: February 25, 2019, 17:32:49 pm »

I thought it was a stipulation in the lease of the stadium that a Trust member sat on the board. Am I wrong?
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« Reply #47 on: February 25, 2019, 19:50:28 pm »

Wasnt there a Trust representative on the board when the DC saga was unfolding ? How did that work out ? Were we in the know or are we still waiting for answers?

DC was getting said Trust member to sign his documents for him!

From the Guardian in 2015.....

"The trust maintained an elected director on the board for more than 20 years until two months ago when the latest director, Andy Clarke, resigned over the current debacle. The trust hopes it can revive its partnership with Thomas if he does take over"
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« Reply #48 on: February 26, 2019, 00:04:51 am »

From memory giving up any trust representation on the board was a condition of KT taking over.
Has everyone conveniently forgotten that?
The trust wasnít set up by Brian lomax to basically be ousted/marginalised/disbanded just because an owner didnít like it.
Ask KT for board representation back and if he refuses then ask him why.

He could appoint a trust member into the board today if he wished and they would have a right to know exactly what has been happening....
Chinese saga
Redevelopment
I said it then and itís stands true now
When an owner comes in and puts a gun to the club saying il take over but you will no longer have a position on the new board it rightly or wrongly leaves the perception of secrecy and non transparency.
Given years down the line we are a league two club playing in a building site I only wish the trust had been allowed to keep its board representation and relay what HAS actually happened over this period.

As it stands there is no point in having a trust as it serves no purpose.
For that reason I see no benefit in holding meetings regards purchasing the club
Pie in the sky.


Do you sell that stuff youíre smoking?

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« Reply #49 on: February 26, 2019, 01:28:34 am »

Do you sell that stuff youíre smoking?


Aside from the last paragraph, what is it you disagree with?
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« Reply #50 on: February 26, 2019, 21:44:03 pm »

Aside from the last paragraph, what is it you disagree with?

Ermmm well.. Let me see

KT never insisted that he wouldn't take over unless the Trust forfeited the seat on the board. He arrived, took over, then told them he didnít need their input basically. His choice.

He didn't come in and hold a gun to anyoneís head. He gave a reason for not having Trust representation on the board.

There is a point of having a Trust. But it has lost touch with the support. Iím not even sure there is consensus with the Trust board. But, it is a vital part of NTFC and its history.

Whether or not I agree with Trust/Fan ownership, I donít believe it is ďpie in the skyĒ if the right model is followed.

Happy? 😀
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« Reply #51 on: February 26, 2019, 22:45:23 pm »

Ermmm well.. Let me see

KT never insisted that he wouldn't take over unless the Trust forfeited the seat on the board. He arrived, took over, then told them he didnít need their input basically. His choice.

He didn't come in and hold a gun to anyoneís head. He gave a reason for not having Trust representation on the board.

There is a point of having a Trust. But it has lost touch with the support. Iím not even sure there is consensus with the Trust board. But, it is a vital part of NTFC and its history.

Whether or not I agree with Trust/Fan ownership, I donít believe it is ďpie in the skyĒ if the right model is followed.

Happy? 😀
Can the trust confirm this one way or the other?
Are you a trust commitee member.
Somewhere on here on a thread long ago Iím sure a trust commitee member stated that the takeover wouldnít go through unless they relinquished their place on the board.

If only the trust could answer questions....
Anyway
Basically who cares anyway?
Whatís done is done
We are a league two club again playing in a building site that hasnít changed since Chris wilder left
He could take sheffield utd to the prem before we do anything on or off the pitch.
It doesnít really matter whatís gone on itís the fact that Iíve given up the ghost due to years of broken promises and false dawns.
Too much wasted money which could have been spent elsewhere.
Iím off to do other things as lifeís too short.
Good luck for the future to you all
Itís been fun on here in general over the years but all good things come to an end
Iíve done my time as a supporter,over thirty five years but thatís enough for me.
Give the lads a cheer for me and I hope that somewhere along the line you may have something more than a lower league club and a proper ground to watch them in.
Cheerio
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« Reply #52 on: February 27, 2019, 00:25:01 am »

Ermmm well.. Let me see

KT never insisted that he wouldn't take over unless the Trust forfeited the seat on the board. He arrived, took over, then told them he didnít need their input basically. His choice.

He didn't come in and hold a gun to anyoneís head. He gave a reason for not having Trust representation on the board.

There is a point of having a Trust. But it has lost touch with the support. Iím not even sure there is consensus with the Trust board. But, it is a vital part of NTFC and its history.

Whether or not I agree with Trust/Fan ownership, I donít believe it is ďpie in the skyĒ if the right model is followed.

Happy? 😀
You lost me sentence one with your double negative  Wink
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« Reply #53 on: February 27, 2019, 08:26:16 am »

Do you sell that stuff youíre smoking?


That remark is disgraceful.
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« Reply #54 on: February 27, 2019, 10:44:52 am »

I refuse in any way shape or form to dwell on the many negatives of these posts. All I will say is I hope and pray that the obvious mistakes made are never repeated.

We must move on to bigger and better things. There is no doubt there was universal agreement surrounding the appointment of Curle. Now is his time. Like all true Cobblers I will look forward to this season. This season has brought out the worst in some of our support. But the slate should be wiped clean. KT gets a fresh start, and hopefully our full backing.

I'm not being dramatic when I say it will take a while to relax and really enjoy the fact that we should avoid relegation.

Well done today Cobblers. I felt genuine pride for the fans and the team..

Please don't do that to us again...
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« Reply #55 on: February 27, 2019, 18:39:23 pm »

That remark is disgraceful.

Whatís disgraceful about that... 😂
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« Reply #56 on: February 28, 2019, 13:13:51 pm »

I refuse in any way shape or form to dwell on the many negatives of these posts. All I will say is I hope and pray that the obvious mistakes made are never repeated.

We must move on to bigger and better things. There is no doubt there was universal agreement surrounding the appointment of Curle. Now is his time. Like all true Cobblers I will look forward to this season. This season has brought out the worst in some of our support. But the slate should be wiped clean. KT gets a fresh start, and hopefully our full backing.

I'm not being dramatic when I say it will take a while to relax and really enjoy the fact that we should avoid relegation.

Well done today Cobblers. I felt genuine pride for the fans and the team..

Please don't do that to us again...

So are you disowning your post on last Saturdays game - in the Stevenage thread? Is my understanding correct?
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« Reply #57 on: March 01, 2019, 08:45:43 am »

we have differing opinions but you appear to be missing the point. The point is that your messages are offensive in the extreme and personal too and I personally did not find it at all pleasant to read them.. The plain fact is that this message board standards have nosedived since two particular bedroom warriors began to post salacious comments. Unfortunately some/most bedroom lawyers fail to comprehend when they have crossed the line. Your drift on personal affronts to others opinions is childish,
So please leave your bedroom,
get a partner and find better things to do than slag/disagree with everyone off on here,
I get the idea you just love conflict which makes you a very very sad human being,


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« Reply #58 on: March 01, 2019, 14:06:06 pm »

How do you get onto the Supporters Advisory Panel ?

I know a season ticket holder who is Quantity Surveyor and Construction Manager and he has delivered a number of projects at football and rugby clubs.

Just a thought
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« Reply #59 on: March 01, 2019, 14:33:40 pm »

we have differing opinions but you appear to be missing the point. The point is that your messages are offensive in the extreme and personal too and I personally did not find it at all pleasant to read them.. The plain fact is that this message board standards have nosedived since two particular bedroom warriors began to post salacious comments. Unfortunately some/most bedroom lawyers fail to comprehend when they have crossed the line. Your drift on personal affronts to others opinions is childish,
So please leave your bedroom,
get a partner and find better things to do than slag/disagree with everyone off on here,
I get the idea you just love conflict which makes you a very very sad human being,


Which point have I missed - its a simple question why cant you just answer instead of embarking on a pseudo moral exercise?
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