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« Reply #80 on: January 31, 2019, 20:09:46 pm »

As a matter of interest what is or was the Brian Lomax blueprint for a Trust Run Club. In the final analysis was his objectives achieved and how does his model compare with our current set up. Please keep personal comments to the minimum to ensure clarity.
If you look online tony there are articles about Brian lomax that outline his ethos.
I can’t do links etc but there’s plenty about him.
Are you also a trust member tony?
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« Reply #81 on: January 31, 2019, 20:52:03 pm »

we just need more facts.

THIS!!!!  That's why I started this thread.

This is a general reply not just aimed at you.

Ever thought maybe KC isn't DC Mark II?  Ever thought business decisions have backfired?  Ever thought maybe dealing with NBC is ten times more painful than has been suggested?  Of course he's shot himself in the foot by withdrawing from proper debate but maybe that's because the answers aren't what anyone wants to hear?

Then ask yourself whether it's in anyone else's interest to make the fans think he is DC Mark II?  Who are the people that make sly digs consistently as if they know something but never outright accuse.  Who suggests he trousered Chinese money?  Who questions why he signed a naming rights deal just before he put the club up for sale?  Who suggests the club is about to go in to Admin?  Never any hard evidence submitted (FACTS).  Just enough to accuse without getting themselves in to trouble unless some of them lose it and say more than they meant.  Of course once this info is out there and repeated by an innocent third party it becomes FACT.  I'm sure it's pure coincidence that they are the ones who are starting to withdraw from debate on this very message board.  I've posed a few simple questions to these people recently to test this new openess and honesty....not one of them got answered and they weren't even difficult.

The irony is of course that the people doing this are setting themselves up as a suitable alternative with no means or mandate.  See how long open and honesty lasts when they start getting asked the same questions KT does.  They have started to clam up already.
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« Reply #82 on: January 31, 2019, 21:20:15 pm »

It's more like an episode of Columbo now...and another thing..
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« Reply #83 on: January 31, 2019, 23:14:12 pm »

I have decided to start a rival to the trust called the unofficial trust.
Very much like the trust it will have no power or influence on the board whatsoever but unlike the current official trust will be more transparent.
There will be no meetings planned with KT as it would frankly be a waste of time due to the fact that there is no board representation which is in reality the only way to actually know what is going on.

There will also be no pie in the sky plans for a fans takeover as it’s blatantly obvious that this would never work and even if members of the official trust thought they could raise funds then you could bet your bottom dollar their own members would be forming the board.....

The same members who at present don’t communicate with their own paying members regards important meetings that they have held!!

If anyone wishes to join the unofficial trust just write your name on the back of a fag packet and drop it in at the clubshop and I will collect them in a couple of weeks

You will then automatically become a member but will not receive a membership card or anything else but you will have full voting rights on any issues to be raised at secret commitee meetings which will be held at secret locations.

Our opinions can then be expressed but not acted upon as just like the trust we actually have no influence whatsoever.

Thankyou for your time and I look forward to listening to your concerns and not bother acting upon them because there is very little point.

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« Reply #84 on: January 31, 2019, 23:25:32 pm »

THIS!!!!  That's why I started this thread.

This is a general reply not just aimed at you.

Ever thought maybe KC isn't DC Mark II?  Ever thought business decisions have backfired?  Ever thought maybe dealing with NBC is ten times more painful than has been suggested?  Of course he's shot himself in the foot by withdrawing from proper debate but maybe that's because the answers aren't what anyone wants to hear?

Then ask yourself whether it's in anyone else's interest to make the fans think he is DC Mark II?  Who are the people that make sly digs consistently as if they know something but never outright accuse.  Who suggests he trousered Chinese money?  Who questions why he signed a naming rights deal just before he put the club up for sale?  Who suggests the club is about to go in to Admin?  Never any hard evidence submitted (FACTS).  Just enough to accuse without getting themselves in to trouble unless some of them lose it and say more than they meant.  Of course once this info is out there and repeated by an innocent third party it becomes FACT.  I'm sure it's pure coincidence that they are the ones who are starting to withdraw from debate on this very message board.  I've posed a few simple questions to these people recently to test this new openess and honesty....not one of them got answered and they weren't even difficult.

The irony is of course that the people doing this are setting themselves up as a suitable alternative with no means or mandate.  See how long open and honesty lasts when they start getting asked the same questions KT does.  They have started to clam up already.

Agreed.
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« Reply #85 on: February 01, 2019, 14:34:20 pm »

The Trust have had no meetings recently with the NBC or KT, there you go you're ITK

Looks like someone was being economical  Kiss
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« Reply #86 on: February 01, 2019, 15:30:51 pm »

I would've thought by now the facts we're quite evident, it's not difficult.

It doesn't need protracted, tit-for tat, arguments with certain individuals on here pretending to have some special insight or knowledge into the complications. The grounds are wrapped with legal issues rendering it almost impossible to make any clear financial reason to be involved with the club. The football club is more than worthless now unless your a lunatic, fan millionaire or just plain stupid. We we're lucky KT and his crew we're positive enough to think some traction could be gained from Doza, but it won't happen again.

The reality is, as fans and as a club we are in the worst position we have ever been in. Investors before the move to Sixfields knew there was potential, but now, oh how we are truly fooked. KT will be very lucky to get the offer he wishes for so now walks a very delicate tight rope.

If only Barry Stonhill had found a genuine buyer it could have all been so different. Not in any way Barry's fault as he was the last person sailing the ship with any decency and integrity and was merely bought and sucked in the same as many here and on the council.

DC and his dishonest ways bought about our ultimate downfall. Now we need a miracle.

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« Reply #87 on: February 01, 2019, 15:50:08 pm »

Worst position than we have ever been? You are obviously a new fan.
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