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« on: February 08, 2019, 14:27:26 pm »

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2019/february/safe_standing_testing/

Northampton Town Football Club are continuing the process of research and consultation that is looking at the possibility of introducing safe standing at the PTS Academy Stadium.

Following consultation with the Safety Advisory Group and the Sports Grounds Safety Authority as part of that process, a small section of barrier has been temporarily installed in the Sheinman Opticians Stand.

This barrier will be tested in accordance with the relevant safety regulations before being removed before the Crawley Town game. This is to ensure that we have all the appropriate information to share with supporters before the consultation process.

The next part of the process will be a consultation with season ticket holders who currently sit in the Sheinman Opticians Stand and this will take place through a survey that will be sent out to those supporters in due course.

“The opinion of the supporters who sit in that part of the stadium will be one of the key factors in how we proceed,” said Chief Executive James Whiting.

“As a club it is important we deliver the facilities the supporters want and we see the consultation with those season tickets holders as a key part of the process.

“As has been stated previously - but it is worth reminding everyone - this is an explorative and consultation process and no decisions have or will be made, but it goes along with our overall commitment to consult with our fanbase.

"We have discussed this subject at previous Supporters Advisory Panel meetings and the next such meeting, on February 21st, gives us the option to discuss this matter further. We would encourage anyone who has a view on the possibility of safe standing to come to the meeting and let us know their views."

That meeting will take place in Carr's Bar at the PTS Academy Stadium from 7.30pm-9pm on Thursday February 21st.
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2019, 14:40:04 pm »

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2019/february/safe_standing_testing/

Northampton Town Football Club are continuing the process of research and consultation that is looking at the possibility of introducing safe standing at the PTS Academy Stadium.

Following consultation with the Safety Advisory Group and the Sports Grounds Safety Authority as part of that process, a small section of barrier has been temporarily installed in the Sheinman Opticians Stand.

This barrier will be tested in accordance with the relevant safety regulations before being removed before the Crawley Town game. This is to ensure that we have all the appropriate information to share with supporters before the consultation process.

The next part of the process will be a consultation with season ticket holders who currently sit in the Sheinman Opticians Stand and this will take place through a survey that will be sent out to those supporters in due course.

“The opinion of the supporters who sit in that part of the stadium will be one of the key factors in how we proceed,” said Chief Executive James Whiting.

“As a club it is important we deliver the facilities the supporters want and we see the consultation with those season tickets holders as a key part of the process.

“As has been stated previously - but it is worth reminding everyone - this is an explorative and consultation process and no decisions have or will be made, but it goes along with our overall commitment to consult with our fanbase.

"We have discussed this subject at previous Supporters Advisory Panel meetings and the next such meeting, on February 21st, gives us the option to discuss this matter further. We would encourage anyone who has a view on the possibility of safe standing to come to the meeting and let us know their views."

That meeting will take place in Carr's Bar at the PTS Academy Stadium from 7.30pm-9pm on Thursday February 21st.
This bull5hit makes my pi5s boil.
How is this piddling nonsence going to advance our club into one that can compete in league 1?
Not a jot but will make our tiny stands look even more non league if that is even possible.
Why not use the money being wasted on this to set up a feasible study on building up a 3000 capacity  bank of terracing, built up behind the seats of one of the ends that allows our club the extra capacity needed for league 1 as well as giving the ground an atmospheric feel to the place that attracts new support.
If this is given oxygen it will put us back decades.
Who at the club is behind this and why?
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2019, 14:43:13 pm »

This bull5hit makes my pi5s boil.
How is this piddling nonsence going to advance our club into one that can compete in league 1?
Not a jot but will make our tiny stands look even more non league if that is even possible.
Why not use the money being wasted on this to set up a feasible study on building up a 3000 capacity  bank of terracing, built up behind the seats of one of the ends that allows our club the extra capacity needed for league 1 as well as giving the ground an atmospheric feel to the place that attracts new support.
If this is given oxygen it will put us back decades.
Who at the club is behind this and why?

Is that another contract that you aren't getting?
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2019, 21:01:24 pm »

Standing is much better.
I remember ramming in the hotelend at the County ground singing, jumping and that surge forward when we scored.
Nowadays we're sitting there like a bunch of twerps
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2019, 21:44:35 pm »

This bull5hit makes my pi5s boil.

That should be enough to convince the undecided fans that it will be a good thing.
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2019, 01:07:33 am »

Standing is much better.
I remember ramming in the hotelend at the County ground singing, jumping and that surge forward when we scored.
Nowadays we're sitting there like a bunch of twerps
Im with you Doc, new years day against Colchester 87 brings particularly fond memories.

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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2019, 02:15:42 am »

Don't we already have safe standing on the hill?
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2019, 04:28:08 am »

What a pointless exercise!  Yes, I too used to prefer the atmosphere on the terraces at the county ground.  If fact I’d go so far as to say it was more the reason I became a fan than the actual football... But make no mistake, safe standing is not terracing.

If anyone thinks that simply by ‘standing up’ it will recreate that, they’re wrong. In reality, it wasn’t the fact that we were standing that created that atmosphere, it was because we were crammed in shoulder to shoulder, when we scored there was a swell and the noise was deafening.

Standing up in neat rows where your seat used to be wont make a the slightest bit of difference to either the atmosphere or the capacity.  Completely pointless.
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2019, 04:34:53 am »

The club tries something and some people moan and if the club does nothing then usually the same people moan.......................stunning!
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2019, 05:52:58 am »

What a pointless exercise!  Yes, I too used to prefer the atmosphere on the terraces at the county ground.  If fact I’d go so far as to say it was more the reason I became a fan than the actual football... But make no mistake, safe standing is not terracing.

If anyone thinks that simply by ‘standing up’ it will recreate that, they’re wrong. In reality, it wasn’t the fact that we were standing that created that atmosphere, it was because we were crammed in shoulder to shoulder, when we scored there was a swell and the noise was deafening.

Standing up in neat rows where your seat used to be wont make a the slightest bit of difference to either the atmosphere or the capacity.  Completely pointless.
You might have a point there, perhaps there’s an element of splendour in the grass going on?
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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2019, 06:13:56 am »

What a pointless exercise!  Yes, I too used to prefer the atmosphere on the terraces at the county ground.  If fact I’d go so far as to say it was more the reason I became a fan than the actual football... But make no mistake, safe standing is not terracing.

If anyone thinks that simply by ‘standing up’ it will recreate that, they’re wrong. In reality, it wasn’t the fact that we were standing that created that atmosphere, it was because we were crammed in shoulder to shoulder, when we scored there was a swell and the noise was deafening.

Standing up in neat rows where your seat used to be wont make a the slightest bit of difference to either the atmosphere or the capacity.  Completely pointless.

Once in a blue moon maybe.
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2019, 07:02:48 am »

What a pointless exercise!  Yes, I too used to prefer the atmosphere on the terraces at the county ground.  If fact I’d go so far as to say it was more the reason I became a fan than the actual football... But make no mistake, safe standing is not terracing.

If anyone thinks that simply by ‘standing up’ it will recreate that, they’re wrong. In reality, it wasn’t the fact that we were standing that created that atmosphere, it was because we were crammed in shoulder to shoulder, when we scored there was a swell and the noise was deafening.

Standing up in neat rows where your seat used to be wont make a the slightest bit of difference to either the atmosphere or the capacity.  Completely pointless.

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But you're wrong about safe standing not improving atmosphere. Go up to Celtic with the Green Brigade in their safe standing area and they'll preach to the rafters about how good it is. That's if you can hear them over the chanting. Also, go to Germany where they have various safe standing scenarios and the atmosphere is raucous.

There is also provision for safe standing to increase capacity and lower ticket prices. Win win.

Would agree though that there is a debate to be had about the potentially limited impact installing it in a small section of the North Stand or how future-proofed the North Stand is even as Beds has alluded to.



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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2019, 08:46:12 am »

Ahh the piggery, absolute sh1t hole of a ground, safe standing makes little difference as everyone stands at bigger grounds anyway. Obviously it’s a lot safer.
Putting it in the north stand is absolutely pointless, build an upper tier like the council we’re going to if we’d have beaten Grimsby  Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2019, 11:54:49 am »

This bull5hit makes my pi5s boil.
How is this piddling nonsence going to advance our club into one that can compete in league 1?
Not a jot but will make our tiny stands look even more non league if that is even possible.
Why not use the money being wasted on this to set up a feasible study on building up a 3000 capacity  bank of terracing, built up behind the seats of one of the ends that allows our club the extra capacity needed for league 1 as well as giving the ground an atmospheric feel to the place that attracts new support.
If this is given oxygen it will put us back decades.
Who at the club is behind this and why?
oh my life, are you still peddling that nonsense about having terracing behind seats? because that was such a great idea that ooooh pretty much no club ever has done it before.
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2019, 11:58:14 am »

Personally, I cant see any point in (say) making the back 2,3,4 rows safe standing. Mainly because most of us there, stand up during the game in any case...and its nice to have the option to sit back down when it gets really boring!  Grin

It wont increase capacity, certainly not by more than a couple of dozen. And it will look 'odd'.

Im in favour of a full stand being safe standing, but not a small section of one. Cant see the point!

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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2019, 12:46:00 pm »

Personally, I cant see any point in (say) making the back 2,3,4 rows safe standing. Mainly because most of us there, stand up during the game in any case...and its nice to have the option to sit back down when it gets really boring!  Grin

It wont increase capacity, certainly not by more than a couple of dozen. And it will look 'odd'.

Im in favour of a full stand being safe standing, but not a small section of one. Cant see the point!


I Agree.
I stand on the back row and am quite capable of doing so without a barrier which if installed will make sitting down occasionally as I do less of an experience because there'll be a big steel barrier in my eyeline and the rest of it will most likely interfere with my knees!
I know common sense has been largely withdrawn from life these days but at Sixfields most people surely still have enough left such that if they can't stand for 90 mins without aid or additional safety measures they won't attempt it...
As for increased atmosphere...it might work at other grounds but does anyone seriously believe a load of steel pipework erected in the North will assist in increasing the atmosphere?!
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2019, 12:49:32 pm »

I'm a season ticket holder back row North Stand...

Stand up during the game then sit down during half time so happy as we are to be honest...
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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2019, 17:45:52 pm »

Nice to see a couple of examples of why this club will never move forwards.
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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2019, 18:55:19 pm »

Nice to see a couple of examples of why this club will never move forwards.
I'm all for progress but just to be clear, you think the club will be taking a positive step forwards by erecting the pipework as seen in the link throughout the North or at least a section of the North?
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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2019, 00:32:49 am »

I do a bit of non league hopping most Tuesday nights and thoroughly enjoy standing up.
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