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« Reply #60 on: March 13, 2019, 08:38:42 am »

Poor game, lacking entertainment and quality until Powell's stunning strike. A massive 3 points that does put us in the shake-up.
People go on about Sixfields night matches, buzzing under lights and all that. Nah, not for me, crowd size always lower and usually quieter. Yes we've had some good 'uns but give me a Saturday afternoon all the time.

I don't think it helps that the wise old elves of the football league decided that longer journeys make for better Tuesday night games. Newport home on a Tuesday night instead of Cambridge at home apparently makes more sense to them.
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« Reply #61 on: March 13, 2019, 08:54:28 am »

Williams was poor (admittedly tough role, alone tonight)

When I saw Bridge on the touchline I called it would be for Willow, so Bridge could go left and Powell up top.

Wasn't that bizarre a sub, and didn't warrant the crowd reaction.

other than powell was playing like a competition winner
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« Reply #62 on: March 13, 2019, 08:57:12 am »

strange how easy it can be to win games of football without any players with any actual footballing ability

just put out the big lads and keep the ball in the air

see you at wembley
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« Reply #63 on: March 13, 2019, 10:56:30 am »

I don't know what sport I was watching last night, but it had little resemblance to football. It's bad enough watching Cobblers play hoof-ball but when the opposition were at it as well it made for an unedifying spectacle. When they weren't engaged in head tennis it seemed to me they were having a competition among themselves to see who could kick the ball highest into the air. This was not so much as like watching schoolboy football as watching Sunday morning kick around with your pub mates. I'm not sure how someone like Joe Powell is going to learn much coming here, this must be like being on a different planet having been brought up to play football the West Ham way. It like someone spending years learning to play the violin and then being seconded to another orchestra and being told to play percussion.

As for the game itself there was little of note to mention. Daniel Powell certainly should have done better when put through by JJOT, and Andy Williams fashioned a couple of decent efforts from abysmal service. And then when sitting back into a 4-5-1 formation, KC takes off the 1 and replaces him with another midfielder. At least the second substitution that eventually broke the deadlock was like for like with Joe Powell a more natural No 10 than JJOT whose legs seemed to have deserted him. So one piece of sublime skill settled a drab match that Cobblers hardly deserved to win.

Lets hope that now the relegation threat is over we could resort to playing the sort of football that people might be inclined to pay to watch.
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« Reply #64 on: March 13, 2019, 11:07:54 am »

Pretty drab game and very much "league 2" in the nature of the play which was attritional at times to say the least.

First half I thought was pretty watchable, both sides having chances with Newport arguably on top for the first 30 mins or so. Cobblers denied an absolutely blatant penalty for handball, and D Powell definitely should have scored with his chance.

Second half was turgid, with two pretty evenly matched teams not playing much football.

A goal was always going to come from an error or moment of inspiration, and J Powell's winner was absolutely top class.
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« Reply #65 on: March 13, 2019, 11:20:12 am »

Christ, anyone would have thought we lost. Iím not making excuses, and it wasnít a classic by any means, but all those moaning about the spectacle you do realise that the pitch was incredibly lively due to it being saturated (Curle alluded to the ground staff working wonders to get the game on) and the fact that there was a very strong wind. Donít get me wrong, neither side particularly helped matters by not keeping it on the deck enough and we had a lack of creativity until the substitutions but we did end up winning the game and also should have had a penalty and missed a one on one. Iíd rather watch us win like that than the supposedly more attractive Dean Austin style that went nowhere and led to us getting beat regularly.
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« Reply #66 on: March 13, 2019, 11:31:52 am »

I think when we were sinking into the abyss if you would have offered no defeats in 7, 4 wins on the bounce and within 6 points of the playoffs any supporter of this club would have took your arm off. Bored or not. Given the way the squad was going itís an outstanding effort. Iím not having a go but to ask for top quality entertainment as well in this short time is pushing a bit?
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« Reply #67 on: March 13, 2019, 12:00:07 pm »

Iím not having a go but to ask for top quality entertainment as well in this short time is pushing a bit?

Look I've been watching Cobblers for over 50 years, for most of the time in this league. Only Carr's side of 86 could be described as top quality entertainment, and Wilder's team of 2015 comes a close second. Last night there was not even the pretence of trying to play football the way it should be played.
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« Reply #68 on: March 13, 2019, 12:05:05 pm »

Christ, anyone would have thought we lost. Iím not making excuses, and it wasnít a classic by any means, but all those moaning about the spectacle you do realise that the pitch was incredibly lively due to it being saturated (Curle alluded to the ground staff working wonders to get the game on) and the fact that there was a very strong wind. Donít get me wrong, neither side particularly helped matters by not keeping it on the deck enough and we had a lack of creativity until the substitutions but we did end up winning the game and also should have had a penalty and missed a one on one. Iíd rather watch us win like that than the supposedly more attractive Dean Austin style that went nowhere and led to us getting beat regularly.

he also said the pitch played very well - never an excuse when the ball isn't on it for most of the game.

there is no hiding away from the fact that it was a poor game of football.

doesn't mean people aren't happy that we won.
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« Reply #69 on: March 13, 2019, 12:19:46 pm »

Again I agree that it wasnít a great game, particularly the second half, but as they said on the radio winning without playing well is a good habit to get into.
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« Reply #70 on: March 13, 2019, 12:26:46 pm »

Look I've been watching Cobblers for over 50 years, for most of the time in this league. Only Carr's side of 86 could be described as top quality entertainment, and Wilder's team of 2015 comes a close second. Last night there was not even the pretence of trying to play football the way it should be played.
Is agree with all of that lefty, but donít you think Curlios priority was stopping the rot and making us hard to beat? I accept there is no point in continually parting with your hard earned cash to be bored sh1tless, but at this point in time given weíve had one January transfer window donít you think the bloke deserves some credit?
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« Reply #71 on: March 13, 2019, 12:34:41 pm »

It's not hard to see what Curle has been doing since the Colchester game, even more so in the last few weeks. Back four wit h2 solid, defensive full backs, arguably our most robust midfield 3, the only bit of pace we can possibly field out wide and a strong, hard working lone front man. It is working results wise, I wouldn't expect him to deviate away from it too much this season. Let's see what he does in the summer.

Always easy to say but if it was me I'd take this base and tweak a little.
Same back 4
Any 2 of JJOT, Foley, Turnbull, McWilliams in midfield
3 behind the striker made up of any 2 of JPowell, Elsnik, Bridge plus 1 of DPowell or Hoskins
Williams or Sordell up front.
If Morais plays up front play JJOT in behind for some aerial presence.

Then look to upgrade a few key components in the summer, mainly in the attacking 4
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« Reply #72 on: March 13, 2019, 12:51:37 pm »

i imagine that in the summer, despite our 2 good runs of form under him happening with a robust 4-4-2 (ish) he will bin most of the squad off, or they wont want to stay and he will build a squad to play 3-5-2 and we will just slightly under achieve for 2 years before he leaves the club.

same as all his other management jobs.
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« Reply #73 on: March 13, 2019, 13:00:40 pm »

i imagine that in the summer, despite our 2 good runs of form under him happening with a robust 4-4-2 (ish) he will bin most of the squad off, or they wont want to stay and he will build a squad to play 3-5-2 and we will just slightly under achieve for 2 years before he leaves the club.

same as all his other management jobs.


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« Reply #74 on: March 13, 2019, 13:03:20 pm »

i imagine that in the summer, despite our 2 good runs of form under him happening with a robust 4-4-2 (ish) he will bin most of the squad off, or they wont want to stay and he will build a squad to play 3-5-2 and we will just slightly under achieve for 2 years before he leaves the club.

same as all his other management jobs.


Thanks for that chuckles, are you having a bad day?
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« Reply #75 on: March 13, 2019, 13:37:01 pm »

its called being realistic

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« Reply #76 on: March 13, 2019, 14:12:18 pm »

I don't know what sport I was watching last night, but it had little resemblance to football. It's bad enough watching Cobblers play hoof-ball but when the opposition were at it as well...

Lets hope that now the relegation threat is over we could resorting to playing the sort of football that people might be inclined to pay to watch.

50 years of watching the Cobblers and you complain of the standard of Football!  I can distinctly remember games under Atkins and Calderwood, when games of similar standard where not uncommon. Apart from Carrs free flowing team we have generally been a side; when we do well with a sound defence and combative midfield. I think you exhibit a dream like fascination with free flowing football which as a club we have rarely exhibited.Even in CW side it was only Holmes who provided the dash and game changing excitement which made some games so enjoyable. In my view CW's side weak link was an inconsistent defence. What we have now is a side with a strong defence and midfield with an outside chance of promotion back to L1!
Yesterdays game was boring and lacking quality; Newport exhibited even less. Yet we still provided one moment of pure class to win the game. Provided we win I have no real quarrel how the team play but in any case a winning side by default must play an acceptable standard of football otherwise..................... Roll Eyes .  In other words lighten up!
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« Reply #77 on: March 13, 2019, 14:44:22 pm »

Look I've been watching Cobblers for over 50 years, for most of the time in this league. Only Carr's side of 86 could be described as top quality entertainment, and Wilder's team of 2015 comes a close second. Last night there was not even the pretence of trying to play football the way it should be played.

A couple of points.

During the early stages of Wilders tenure, some of the football was shocking. He then got himself/us Ricky Holmes, Nicky Adams etc and we were able to play, to an extent, free flowing football at times...but it took him well over a year for things to click.

Under Carr, we played hoof ball. Get the ball to Benji/Morley asap...the back 4 all pushing up to play the offside trap...then the quality of Hill, Eddie, Gilbert etc made the difference. The season we got relegated (under Carr) was about the worst football I've witnessed, hoof balls to Bobby Barnes ffs!

The point Im making is simple. The style of football can only be dictated by the types of players you have. With regards to senior players, we have one winger, Powell, who is very inconsistent. Our midfielders are all either powerhouses or light weight kids who cant do anywhere near 90 minutes yet. Previously we had Crookes...but he was massively in-consistent as well.

KC has had one window to work in, and getting the high in demand skilful players we need to top up what is now looking like a solid group, was virtually impossible, given the financial constraints he's currently working within.

He's taken us from 22nd to 11th, so from a results perspective Im struggling to moan at this point in time. At all. From an entertainment prospective, its such a rare thing to see free flowing stuff in the bottom league its again hard to be too critical. Perhaps next season if he can find 2 or 3 'dreamy players' who work hard as well (like Ricky, like Adams), then they can strutt their stuff on the back of more combative team mates (who we already have in place and I hope remain) earning the right for us to play. Time will tell on that.

As for the game last night, I found it quite fascinating for an hour (not thrilling), after which it became a bore-fest. I said with 10 minutes to go it was the type of game Ricky would have won for us 3 years ago...ironic given Powell comes on and scores a wonder right towards the end.

Wilder once said on the wireless, 'its not about the results you get in the 10 games when you play well, its about the results you get in the other games when you don't'. We seem to have once again become a team capable of grinding out results when we are not at our best. Long may that continue!

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« Reply #78 on: March 13, 2019, 14:48:32 pm »

i imagine that in the summer, despite our 2 good runs of form under him happening with a robust 4-4-2 (ish) he will bin most of the squad off, or they wont want to stay and he will build a squad to play 3-5-2 and we will just slightly under achieve for 2 years before he leaves the club.

same as all his other management jobs.


My guess is that Thomas will insist on getting the wage bill right down and Curle's hand will be forced anyway.
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« Reply #79 on: March 13, 2019, 15:32:39 pm »

Christ, anyone would have thought we lost. Iím not making excuses, and it wasnít a classic by any means, but all those moaning about the spectacle you do realise that the pitch was incredibly lively due to it being saturated (Curle alluded to the ground staff working wonders to get the game on) and the fact that there was a very strong wind. Donít get me wrong, neither side particularly helped matters by not keeping it on the deck enough and we had a lack of creativity until the substitutions but we did end up winning the game and also should have had a penalty and missed a one on one. Iíd rather watch us win like that than the supposedly more attractive Dean Austin style that went nowhere and led to us getting beat regularly.

Absolutely spot on. The conditions were challenging. The pitch was sodden. Two sides that cancelled each other out. Far too many MOTD lovers on here. 

Nightmare of a game to play in. Anyone who has played at a reasonable level will know that games like that, in those conditions, are where you earn your crust. I can just imagine how much credit Curle and the lads would have got if we'd played a blinder and lost. I'm beginning to wonder if there is anything the club can do right these days with some of you. We lose and they get destroyed. We win and they get picked to pieces. 

Fcuk the moaners. Well done lads, on grabbing a result on the night.

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