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« on: June 06, 2019, 16:53:57 pm »

Goalkeeper

It appears that Arnold will be our new No.1 with Cornell as back-up. I suspect Cornell may get some game time as our cup keeper as he's been quite good at saving penalties and Bradley Lashley may stick around the squad until Christmas before being loaned out to get some experience.

ACTION: None

Centre Backs

It seems KC is set on playing a back 3 and we are currently a little light in this department. A lot of talk about Pierre moving on however we should get some decent money for him to fund an adequate replacement. I'm happy with Turnbull on the left-hand side of 3. I think Jay Williams will stay around the squad and play a bit more than last season. Having watched him at Cheltenham, I think Ryan Hughes might benefit from a stint out on loan as I donít think heís quite ready for the first team.

ACTION: Replace Pierre if he leaves, sign a right-sided centre back and possibly a utility player who can play across any of the defensive positions.

Right Wing Back

Thereís been some talk about Nicky Adams excelling in this position last season and it will be interesting to see how KC utilises him. I think Shaun McWilliams would do a decent job there and of course Cam McWilliams provides further back up.

ACTION: I donít envisage any further transfer activity in this position.

Left Wing Back

I think Joe Martin will nail down this position although his recent fitness issues might mean we need to back-up in this position (unless Turnbull can cover). I didnít see much of George Cox last season to judge but KC was happy to have him around the squad even when injured so I guess a younger player would be a sensible understudy

ACTION: Sign an understudy to Martin (possibly a youngster in on loan)

Defensive Midfield

A welcome sight for us to sign our first defensive midfielder since Jason Taylor. At 35 I think weíll have to manage him and if we can get him to play in 70-80% of our league games weíll be competitive.

ACTION: A DM is a bit of luxury at this level, so I donít think thereíll be further signings in this position

Central Midfield

I think Chris Lines will be a starter with either Watson, Pollock or Shaun McWilliams alongside.

ACTION: I would have preferred the balance of having a left footer in central midfield someone in the Danny Rose mould, but I donít think weíll see any further movement in this position.

Right Wing

Iím not sure how much KC plans to utilise wingers next season but itís always good to have a little bit of pace / trickery on the wing even if only as impact substitutes. As will are still lumbered with Hoskins, I guess he will take up this role in the squad. Iím hoping to see a bit more of Sean Whaler this season who might get some game time in the cup competitions

ACTION: None

Left Wing

I think much depends on whether Daniel Powell stays or goes for this position. Personally, would be happy to see him leave and I think we can find a better replacement who at least seems half interested. Iíd like to see more of Morgan Roberts who again might have a chance of some minutes in the cup games.

ACTION: Sign a left sided winger / attacking player

Attacking Midfield

A lot seems to be resting of Matty Warburtonís shoulders in this position to bring some creativity to the side. One thing he will benefit from is having some battle-hardened League 2 pros alongside him to win the battles and allow him space to flourish. Always a bit of a **** taking someone from down the leagues, and I hope this one comes off.

ACTION: None

Strikers

I think Harry Smith will be leading the line-up top on his own and he should get plenty of chances with players like Adams and Lines supplying crosses. I donít think either Andy Williams or Morias are in KCís plans, but they could both be useful squad players over the course of a season. I doubt either would be happy with that and I wouldnít be surprised to see some further movement in this position.

ACTION: Replace either Andy Williams or Morias if they leave
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2019, 18:33:34 pm »

Goalkeeper

It appears that Arnold will be our new No.1 with Cornell as back-up. I suspect Cornell may get some game time as our cup keeper as he's been quite good at saving penalties and Bradley Lashley may stick around the squad until Christmas before being loaned out to get some experience.

ACTION: None

Centre Backs

It seems KC is set on playing a back 3 and we are currently a little light in this department. A lot of talk about Pierre moving on however we should get some decent money for him to fund an adequate replacement. I'm happy with Turnbull on the left-hand side of 3. I think Jay Williams will stay around the squad and play a bit more than last season. Having watched him at Cheltenham, I think Ryan Hughes might benefit from a stint out on loan as I donít think heís quite ready for the first team.

ACTION: Replace Pierre if he leaves, sign a right-sided centre back and possibly a utility player who can play across any of the defensive positions.

Right Wing Back

Thereís been some talk about Nicky Adams excelling in this position last season and it will be interesting to see how KC utilises him. I think Shaun McWilliams would do a decent job there and of course Cam McWilliams provides further back up.

ACTION: I donít envisage any further transfer activity in this position.

Left Wing Back

I think Joe Martin will nail down this position although his recent fitness issues might mean we need to back-up in this position (unless Turnbull can cover). I didnít see much of George Cox last season to judge but KC was happy to have him around the squad even when injured so I guess a younger player would be a sensible understudy

ACTION: Sign an understudy to Martin (possibly a youngster in on loan)

Defensive Midfield

A welcome sight for us to sign our first defensive midfielder since Jason Taylor. At 35 I think weíll have to manage him and if we can get him to play in 70-80% of our league games weíll be competitive.

ACTION: A DM is a bit of luxury at this level, so I donít think thereíll be further signings in this position

Central Midfield

I think Chris Lines will be a starter with either Watson, Pollock or Shaun McWilliams alongside.

ACTION: I would have preferred the balance of having a left footer in central midfield someone in the Danny Rose mould, but I donít think weíll see any further movement in this position.

Right Wing

Iím not sure how much KC plans to utilise wingers next season but itís always good to have a little bit of pace / trickery on the wing even if only as impact substitutes. As will are still lumbered with Hoskins, I guess he will take up this role in the squad. Iím hoping to see a bit more of Sean Whaler this season who might get some game time in the cup competitions

ACTION: None

Left Wing

I think much depends on whether Daniel Powell stays or goes for this position. Personally, would be happy to see him leave and I think we can find a better replacement who at least seems half interested. Iíd like to see more of Morgan Roberts who again might have a chance of some minutes in the cup games.

ACTION: Sign a left sided winger / attacking player

Attacking Midfield

A lot seems to be resting of Matty Warburtonís shoulders in this position to bring some creativity to the side. One thing he will benefit from is having some battle-hardened League 2 pros alongside him to win the battles and allow him space to flourish. Always a bit of a **** taking someone from down the leagues, and I hope this one comes off.

ACTION: None

Strikers

I think Harry Smith will be leading the line-up top on his own and he should get plenty of chances with players like Adams and Lines supplying crosses. I donít think either Andy Williams or Morias are in KCís plans, but they could both be useful squad players over the course of a season. I doubt either would be happy with that and I wouldnít be surprised to see some further movement in this position.

ACTION: Replace either Andy Williams or Morias if they leave


Mostly fair appraisal - my understanding from KC in the Chron is that we need competition in the goal keeper area so at the moment both Cornell and Arnold are competing for the number one spot.  May I ask please ask how you come to assume that Arnold is now the number 1 as have not seen any comment from the Manager to that effect. If he has fine; even better if you have a link to the comment. Any clarification is appreciated.
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2019, 19:15:42 pm »

I wouldn't disagree with most of that but I think we need another right back. I know we seem to be set up to play with wing backs but you always need a plan b should you need to reshuffle and I'd prefer a more natural right back within the squad to accommodate that, even if it's a youngster on loan. I know McCormack has played there before but I don't know how effective he'd be there anymore.
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2019, 19:28:30 pm »

I would not assume that Arnold will be No.1 keeper next season. Ignoring non league appearances he has less experience than Cornell. Arnold has 58 appearances (31 with Stevenage 6 years ago and 23 at Shrewsbury last season). Cornell has 72 appearances (14 for Oldham and 58 for us). Comments on the Shrewsbury forum are do not excite me but will reserve judgement until we see performances. Bring back Chic Brodie!
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2019, 20:39:20 pm »

There's definitely a gap for a RB/RWB, RCB and LWB/LW. Currently the only available senior RB is McCormick, and that's not his first choice position. Dont think either of the McWilliams will be used there personally.

I'd therefore expect at least the following players still to come in (more if there are additional departures - I'm not including the transfer listed lads):

CB
Versatile CB/RB/RWB (Right sided Martin)
LWB/LW
ST (if Powell goes)

I think we have at least 2 players who can cover all other positions (both in 4-4-2 and 3-5-2).
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2019, 21:15:20 pm »

Agree with most of your analysis.

I can still see another 5-6 players coming in, more if there are further departures, which wouldn't surprise me.

Likely incomings: RB, CB, LB, 2 Attacking MF, LW.

GK: Cornell, Arnold
RB: New Signing, C.McWilliams
LB: Martin, New Signing
CB: Pierre, Turnbull, J.Williams, New Signing
MF: McCormack, Watson, Lines, McWilliams, Pollock
AM: Warburton, New Signing, New Signing
RW/LW: Adams, New Signing
FW: Smith, Williams, Morias, Hoskins

plus Roberts and Whaler to continue to pick up experience on the fringes of the squad.

That makes a squad of 26 which I think would be about right.
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2019, 21:55:11 pm »

Hi Poggy, hows things? That resembles one of your work reports.  Grin
Are you still down in the land of big bushy side burns, and funny accents? Hope to see you soon mate.
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2019, 23:06:54 pm »

I'm sure KC commented on the too large a squad last season so he may only want a 23/24 man squad. Whether the likes of Morgan Roberts, Sean Whaler, Ryan Hughes would be deemed part of the number I'm not sure.
Is Billy Waters still here?
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2019, 23:09:32 pm »

I understand KC will have a squad of 18 players plus the lads that graduated last year , giving 25 players .
Iím not sure what that leaves us left to sign , assuming Powell goes elsewhere and Waters leaves .
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2019, 23:11:19 pm »

Agree with most of your analysis.

I can still see another 5-6 players coming in, more if there are further departures, which wouldn't surprise me.

Likely incomings: RB, CB, LB, 2 Attacking MF, LW.

GK: Cornell, Arnold
RB: New Signing, C.McWilliams
LB: Martin, New Signing
CB: Pierre, Turnbull, J.Williams, New Signing
MF: McCormack, Watson, Lines, McWilliams, Pollock
AM: Warburton, New Signing, New Signing
RW/LW: Adams, New Signing
FW: Smith, Williams, Morias, Hoskins

plus Roberts and Whaler to continue to pick up experience on the fringes of the squad.

That makes a squad of 26 which I think would be about right.


Not sure we really need 5 centre midfielders, 5 attacking midfielders/wingers and 4 strikers

Donít forget we still have Bunny as a LWB and Billy Waters, would be good to get them both off the wage bill to free up money for new signings
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2019, 23:19:38 pm »

Agree with most of your analysis.

I can still see another 5-6 players coming in, more if there are further departures, which wouldn't surprise me.

Likely incomings: RB, CB, LB, 2 Attacking MF, LW.

GK: Cornell, Arnold
RB: New Signing, C.McWilliams
LB: Martin, New Signing
CB: Pierre, Turnbull, J.Williams, New Signing
MF: McCormack, Watson, Lines, McWilliams, Pollock
AM: Warburton, New Signing, New Signing
RW/LW: Adams, New Signing
FW: Smith, Williams, Morias, Hoskins

plus Roberts and Whaler to continue to pick up experience on the fringes of the squad.

That makes a squad of 26 which I think would be about right.

I would say he will sign 2 centre backs even if Pierre stays , but one will cover right back ( possibly Goode ) . Donít forget Adams is likely to be played as a right wing back .
I think we are also looking light on goals and need a striker . I would get rid of Morias personally
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2019, 23:45:58 pm »

Morias played 645 minutes and scored six goals .... A goal every 108 minutes.

For some reason KC does not appear to rate him but I would keep him especially as an impact substitute (or super sub 🙂)
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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2019, 00:35:36 am »

Not sure we really need 5 centre midfielders, 5 attacking midfielders/wingers and 4 strikers

Donít forget we still have Bunny as a LWB and Billy Waters, would be good to get them both off the wage bill to free up money for new signings

I agree that we don't need 5 centre midfielders but that is what we currently have. This is also why I'm convinced we need 1 more winger and at least 1 attacking midfielder to give us a balanced selection of midfield options. Ideally Pollock would be loaned out to get game time leaving us with 8-9 midfielders/wingers.

Nothing wrong with having four forward options, though some might think that's 1 too many. You could argue Hoskins could be one of the 2 AM options leaving only 1 transfer needed in that area.

I think Bunney would be quality at this level but he doesn't want to be here and is transfer listed. I'd love him and to stay but can't see it, we will need to bring in a back up LB.

I expect Waters will move on.
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2019, 00:53:47 am »

I would say he will sign 2 centre backs even if Pierre stays , but one will cover right back ( possibly Goode ) . Donít forget Adams is likely to be played as a right wing back .
I think we are also looking light on goals and need a striker . I would get rid of Morias personally

Regarding potential CB signings, I guess it depends if KC is set on playing 3-5-2 and how much he rates Williams. If he is and he doesn't then you're probably right.

I rate Morias but it looks like KC might not. I'd be disappointed if he was to leave. I agree in general that we need more goals, but these can come from AM's especially if we can bring a couple more in.

Signings are going to be dependant on whether KC is set on playing a particular system or not. I think he will be looking to set up a more 'flexible' squad than people think.
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2019, 06:35:08 am »

Goalkeeper

I think Harry Smith will be leading the line-up top on his own


I hope not. 5-4-1 would be a mistake IMO. If he goes for 5 at the back. I'd certainly prefer it to be with two up front with Morais or even Powell up with Smith. On the other hand, 4-2-3-1 could work with Lines and McCormack sitting deep and Adams, Warburton and ANother behind Smith (not that this is a formation that Curle has ever favoured).


Curle's signed proven lower league talent. I still think we need some pace though.
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« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2019, 07:10:14 am »

still plenty of players to be moved on - and then possible replaced.

i suppose the squad size depends on whether KC sees the 7/8 youngsters as part of his first team squad or if they are going out on loan.

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« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2019, 10:13:37 am »

On paper, we've got the makings of a really strong squad, especially in midfield.

I think we're a bit light at centre half, and need someone who won't be bullied by a physical centre forward or two.

Need more cover out wide on the left side assuming Bunney is leaving.

I always think we need another striker, the only time I haven't thought that was when we had Rico, Collins and Marquis!

Like others I think we're a fair way off the finished article mainly because some non-transfer listed players will inevitably leave, most likely one of them will be Pierre.
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« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2019, 12:39:48 pm »

I would say he will sign 2 centre backs even if Pierre stays , but one will cover right back ( possibly Goode ) . Donít forget Adams is likely to be played as a right wing back .
I think we are also looking light on goals and need a striker . I would get rid of Morias personally
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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2019, 12:43:09 pm »

Agree with most of your analysis.

I can still see another 5-6 players coming in, more if there are further departures, which wouldn't surprise me.

Likely incomings: RB, CB, LB, 2 Attacking MF, LW.

GK: Cornell, Arnold
RB: New Signing, C.McWilliams
LB: Martin, New Signing
CB: Pierre, Turnbull, J.Williams, New Signing
MF: McCormack, Watson, Lines, McWilliams, Pollock
AM: Warburton, New Signing, New Signing
RW/LW: Adams, New Signing
FW: Smith, Williams, Morias, Hoskins

plus Roberts and Whaler to continue to pick up experience on the fringes of the squad.

That makes a squad of 26 which I think would be about right.

I think there will be three more signings , providing Waters , Powell and Bunney leave .
That makes a squad of 18 senior players and the young lads promoted last year will complete the squad .
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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2019, 12:46:03 pm »

You seriously want to get rid of Morias and keep Hoskins  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Not particularly . I would get rid of Hoskins as well but I donít think thatís likely bearing in mind he started nearly every game for KC .
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