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Squad Appraisal for Next Season

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« Reply #40 on: June 10, 2019, 15:30:17 pm »

I donít know who is specifically coming in or in what positions but I do know itís 18 plus 7

Curle has said in his latest interview that he is looking to bring 4 more in which will, in his words:

'Take the squad up to 20 or 21 players and then we have the younger players that we think will play a big part as well'.

These 4 signings are independent of further players leaving, so if Bunney and Waters do leave there could in fact be 5-6 more in as I previously predicted.

Curle also reiterated that some of the contracted players may decide they want to leave if they want more game time. I'm guessing this will apply mostly to Williams, Morias, Hoskins, McWilliams and Cornell.

This summer is going to see something close to a complete squad overall.
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« Reply #41 on: June 10, 2019, 16:04:16 pm »

Curle has said in his latest interview that he is looking to bring 4 more in which will, in his words:

'Take the squad up to 20 or 21 players and then we have the younger players that we think will play a big part as well'.

These 4 signings are independent of further players leaving, so if Bunney and Waters do leave there could in fact be 5-6 more in as I previously predicted.

Curle also reiterated that some of the contracted players may decide they want to leave if they want more game time. I'm guessing this will apply mostly to Williams, Morias, Hoskins, McWilliams and Cornell.

This summer is going to see something close to a complete squad overall.
Apart from Morias and Williams not bothered if the res go, shame about Shaun but he seems to have gone backwards.
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« Reply #42 on: June 10, 2019, 16:47:19 pm »

He must be directly referring to Bunney and Waters when talking about no interest in players under contract. Maybe clubs want to take them on loan and we would rather get rid altogether to free up the books ?
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« Reply #43 on: June 10, 2019, 17:53:16 pm »

Surprised Chelts donít want Billy Waters?
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« Reply #44 on: June 10, 2019, 20:09:06 pm »

I think that Cheltenham do want Billy Waters but are not willing to meet our asking price (we supposedly paid them £50,000). They are waiting until nearer the start of the new season when we will be prepared to drop the asking price or let him go on a free to get him off our wage bill.
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« Reply #45 on: June 10, 2019, 21:13:23 pm »

I think that Cheltenham do want Billy Waters but are not willing to meet our asking price (we supposedly paid them £50,000). They are waiting until nearer the start of the new season when we will be prepared to drop the asking price or let him go on a free to get him off our wage bill.
I would say this is correct and the same probably applies to Bunney .
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« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2019, 10:33:28 am »

With all these new signings, it will probably be October before they gel and start performing. My worry is that a dodgy start will lower morale and start a struggling season. Forever the pessimist.
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« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2019, 10:42:02 am »

With all these new signings, it will probably be October before they gel and start performing. My worry is that a dodgy start will lower morale and start a struggling season. Forever the pessimist.

if in doubt - knock it long to the big man and ****.

before winning 15 on the bounce to run away with the league.
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« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2019, 11:37:16 am »

With all these new signings, it will probably be October before they gel and start performing. My worry is that a dodgy start will lower morale and start a struggling season. Forever the pessimist.
Which is why itís important to get it done early so that the pre season means something .
That means getting rid of those leaving as well .
Surely Bunney and Waters have to go soon so that they can be replaced .
Interesting to see team predictions as we stand .
I think only Turnbull and Pierre start for sure from last season with possibly Cornell, MacWilliams, Pollock   and A Williams as outsiders .
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« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2019, 11:52:20 am »

Which is why itís important to get it done early so that the pre season means something .
That means getting rid of those leaving as well .
Surely Bunney and Waters have to go soon so that they can be replaced .
Interesting to see team predictions as we stand .
I think only Turnbull and Pierre start for sure from last season with possibly Cornell, MacWilliams, Pollock   and A Williams as outsiders .
If these two have made up their minds that their futures lie elsewhere, the last thing they will want is to return for pre-season, and that starts a week today. Maybe we will hear something in the meantime.
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« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2019, 16:20:26 pm »

At this moment in time , I think we will line up as follows :

                             Cornell

           Williams / new signing.  Pierre     Turnbull

Adams                                                                   Martin
                     Macormack      Lines

                         Warburton

                    Smith          Williams

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« Reply #51 on: June 20, 2019, 10:21:40 am »

It will be intresting to see how many are calling to give youth a chance next season, as the majority of these line ups don't want them in the first team.
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« Reply #52 on: June 20, 2019, 12:17:48 pm »

in 2015/16, we were 16th after we lost at home to Dagenham in mid September.
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« Reply #53 on: June 20, 2019, 14:55:37 pm »

It will be intresting to see how many are calling to give youth a chance next season, as the majority of these line ups don't want them in the first team.
The youth will get itís chance. We have so many older players that I foresee quite a few injuries this season .
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« Reply #54 on: July 24, 2019, 12:26:17 pm »

So at the moment what do people think our best XI is and where else do we need transfers?


                                      Arnold

                    Goode        NEW CB        Turnbull         
Adams                                                                         Martin
                                   McCormack     
                 
                         Lines    Warburton    Watson

                                       Smith

SUBS: Williams, Oliver, McWilliams, Pollock, Hoskins, NEW CB, Cornell

I haven't included Bunney, Morias and Waters for obvious reasons.

So 2 new CB's (including Pierre's replacement hopefully), a pacey striker to replace Morias (if he leaves), and an left sided attacking midfielder.

3 out, 4 in.

I'd rather Morias stay, and I am also happy for Bunney to stay with the squad, but I'm assuming they will leave.

Transfer window in L2 shuts on the 2nd September, so still plenty of time to complete the squad overhaul.
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« Reply #55 on: July 24, 2019, 13:06:59 pm »

its the 3 out 4 in bit that's worrying.

if we get none out...there'll be none in...at least that's how it seems.

Indeed the transfer window is open for some time yet, but lets imagine that we do actually get rid of someone....at 10.30pm on transfer deadline day.....then what? Bunney and Waters have been available for what? 10 or 11 weeks already? And MoraisÖ.with his wages? He's hardly likely to attract league 2 or Conference teams is he?

We'll see what happens.....but there's a reason the signings have dried up.
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« Reply #56 on: July 24, 2019, 13:15:50 pm »

its the 3 out 4 in bit that's worrying.

if we get none out...there'll be none in...at least that's how it seems.

Indeed the transfer window is open for some time yet, but lets imagine that we do actually get rid of someone....at 10.30pm on transfer deadline day.....then what? Bunney and Waters have been available for what? 10 or 11 weeks already? And MoraisÖ.with his wages? He's hardly likely to attract league 2 or Conference teams is he?

We'll see what happens.....but there's a reason the signings have dried up.

Iíve been saying this all summer - in this day and age it is incredibly simplistic  to just freeze 2/3 players out in the hope that it will lead to them moving on, especially when theyíre all on decent money (having said that I wouldnít be surprised if Waters gets picked up at some point). Just because KC doesnít want them doesnít mean they arenít entitled to dig their heels in and ride out a lucrative contract, for KC to have seemingly put his remaining recruitment eggs in that basket seems very naive and looks like it is going to leave us massively unbalanced going in to the season. Iíll be interested to hear what KC has to say for himself at the open forum next week as my mantra has been to back him to put together his own squad but there seem to be some major issues.
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« Reply #57 on: July 24, 2019, 14:38:51 pm »

Iíve been saying this all summer - in this day and age it is incredibly simplistic  to just freeze 2/3 players out in the hope that it will lead to them moving on, especially when theyíre all on decent money (having said that I wouldnít be surprised if Waters gets picked up at some point). Just because KC doesnít want them doesnít mean they arenít entitled to dig their heels in and ride out a lucrative contract, for KC to have seemingly put his remaining recruitment eggs in that basket seems very naive and looks like it is going to leave us massively unbalanced going in to the season. Iíll be interested to hear what KC has to say for himself at the open forum next week as my mantra has been to back him to put together his own squad but there seem to be some major issues.

This as all been said before. KC did not name them but stated at the end of season review he had spoken to a number of players who did not feature in his plans.Absolutely correct that they can dig their heels in and refuse to leave. He has 3/4 targets to replace them but he has to operate within the budget. If they do not leave then they will sit in the reserves or will have to try to play themselves into consideration. That will not happen until the end of the transfer window. Mixed signals and all that. We will have to go with what we have with the exception of one new centre back to replace Pierre.

The budget was set at the start and has not beed reduced. The club and indeed the players concerned will have a problem if there is no resolution but thats the way it is.Its not a question of the recruitment basket. We did business early because we made lucrative offers to the players we have. They were first choices. At least one target requires a significant transfer fee.The club , I believe, are trying to recoup some of this from transfer fees of those that have been listed.

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« Reply #58 on: July 24, 2019, 16:53:34 pm »

All adds up Pedj, what you say.

I think people need to, begrudgingly, bear in mind that there are still almost 6 weeks to make signings, and that *perhaps* after 3 or 4 proper games, the holes in the squad (whatever they are) will be far more obviously than they are currently, and can be filled accordingly.

You then get to the g@ambling stage; nearer the deadline. The owners are going to play hardball at the minute, that may change if things don't go the way they/we hope.

Russian roulette and all that.

I think its glaringly obvious though that we need 3 or 4 additions, in the areas mentioned by many of us!
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« Reply #59 on: July 24, 2019, 20:32:34 pm »

Are we suggesting that there are quality players at other clubs who are unsettled and want to move to us, but are hanging around on the off chance we can off load Morias etc? Additionally in the event thereís a couple of weeks to go till the end of the window their clubs are going to accept this? Itís possible of course, but I think itís more likely we would be bringing in bang average journeymen struggling to find a club? Close season started off so well but as time has gone on itís all got a bit concerning how there appear to be some glaring deficiencies in the squad? All I can hear at the moment is a deafening tick tock, tick tock and I canít stop fretting.
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