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« on: July 12, 2019, 15:51:41 pm »

If anybody's interested we have been drawn with Posh, Cambridge & Arsenal in this year's competition.

Posh (H), Cambridge (A), Arsenal (H)

Dates to be confirmed. Interesting group for those interested  Grin
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2019, 18:37:28 pm »

The competition can't even attract a sponsor now.

Should be binned off.

Or bin off the Prem Academy sides and get it started in and amongst Pre Season.
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2019, 19:21:55 pm »

FWIW I'll be attending all three games. Please don't bin it. There's no way with the numbers in our squad we play too often. I couldn't care less if there is no sponsor.

Re the sponsor thing - dependent on the price the EFL is seeking.
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2019, 19:44:35 pm »

Bin it.
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2019, 19:59:39 pm »

Bin it.

Don't go.
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2019, 20:13:08 pm »

No danger.
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2019, 20:19:51 pm »

I wouldn't think it's the asking price that's putting potential sponsors off so much as the reputational damage that could be caused by being associated with something so unpopular!
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2019, 20:34:18 pm »

I wouldn't think it's the asking price that's putting potential sponsors off so much as the reputational damage that could be caused by being associated with something so unpopular!

Is it? Unpopular? Do you think Checkatrade have suffered reputational damage as a result of their sponsorship?

n the great scheme of things do people really care? Sure, some fans of some lower league clubs might have an issue, but we should remember that we are a really small cog in the football machine. I doubt whether any of Arsenals regular 60000 fans give a monkeys, nor Liverpools, nor Manchester Citys etc.

A lot more was made of the fact that the final attracted the highest ever attendance in the history of the competition over all its guises during the last almost 40 years (85,021) than was made of the lowest ever attendance to see a first class match in this country (Burton v Middlesbrough attracting just 202 spectators)

If people want to go and watch then let them go and watch....if they don't then don't!
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2019, 21:09:00 pm »

Anyone attending a B team fixture really need to have a word with themselves.
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2019, 21:09:57 pm »

Make it a British cup with a 2 legged knock out competition and the away goal rule, no extra time, straight to penalties.
Invite all the Scottish clubs not involved in Europe and Northern Irish clubs. Finals alternating between Wembley Glasgow Belfast or Cardiff.
Can you imagine the excitement of the draw, hoping to draw Hibs or Hearts and posible  trips to Edinburgh,  Dundee or Aberdeen, what about Glentoran in Belfast ?certainly it would be fun..
It would make up for being unable to escape L2 and being a also ran in a boring division.
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2019, 21:30:17 pm »

Turn it into a post-Brexit footy fest. Play French, German, Italian, Spanish, Croatian, et al lower league teams then after group games have a knockout tournament in Ibiza with winner takes it all. Nantes v Cobblers in final at La Estrada with pens if required. Runner-up takes on Charity Shield losers in a real festival of soccer at L.A. Galaxy ground with cheer leaders in skimpy outfits and Will 1 in the morning wearing a codpiece to pull in the punters. Would go down a storm in Desborough.
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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2019, 21:31:24 pm »

Oops hang-on, I've got the horn.
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2019, 01:26:54 am »

Make it a British cup with a 2 legged knock out competition and the away goal rule, no extra time, straight to penalties.
Invite all the Scottish clubs not involved in Europe and Northern Irish clubs. Finals alternating between Wembley Glasgow Belfast or Cardiff.
Can you imagine the excitement of the draw, hoping to draw Hibs or Hearts and posible  trips to Edinburgh,  Dundee or Aberdeen, what about Glentoran in Belfast ?certainly it would be fun..
It would make up for being unable to escape L2 and being a also ran in a boring division.

Yes that would help the cash strapped lower league clubs. Oh we've got to travel to the Outer Hebrides, brilliant.

Best thing they could do with this competition is have it in pre season. At least the group games.
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2019, 08:59:45 am »

Anyone attending a B team fixture really need to have a word with themselves.

if you dont like it - dont go

some 'fans' like to go to support their team - obviously you only go based on the calibre of the competition / opposition.

should we be cancelling all pre-season friendlies too?!

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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2019, 09:10:12 am »

Anyone attending a B team fixture really need to have a word with themselves.

What a weird thing to say. I don't go to watch the opposition, I go to watch the cobblers. Get over yourself.
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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2019, 09:25:48 am »

It's been suggested in the past that Premier League sides should enter B teams into the lower leagues to blood younger/fringe players. It's always been very quickly shot down but a lot of people see the B teams' foray into the EFL trophy as the powers that be testing the water for a future change to the league.

I think that's Clarkey's point - it's not about who we're playing, it's about what it could open the door to if it was just blindly accepted. I mean, think about it - if B teams come into the league, who's place would they take? If an A team was relegated into the Championship and their B team was also in there would they play each other or would the B team be withdrawn? If so, who would take their place? And what if a B team won the Championship? They couldn't be promoted so what would happen? Conceivably we could see the 5th or 6th place finishers go up! It would make the leagues outside the premiership a complete farce and should be avoided at all costs.
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2019, 10:21:20 am »

Whether you believe it or not, and Id understand not trusting anything that comes from the EFL, it's been stated on more than one occasion that B Teams aren't coming into the league. The powers that be have denied it, owners wouldn't go for it and there would be uproar from fans on a far higher level than the Trophy boycott.

If anyone needs to have a word with themselves, it's those who criticise their fellow fans for wanting to watch their own club in competitive action. If you're boycotting, then boycott quietly and let fans watch the club they support in peace. For what it's worth, I don't agree with the U21 format but I have no issue with those that want to go.

And from a footballing point of view, it's a great opportunity for our young and talented players to get vital minutes under their belt against decent opposition.
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2019, 11:24:41 am »

Are the rules still place about how many players from your previous match squad have to be involved?

As much as I hate what the EFL have done with this trophy, we have plenty of youth (if they don't go on loan) that could do with minutes this year.

GK: Lashley

DF:  C.McWilliams, Hughes, J.Williams

MF:  Roberts, Pollock, S.McWilliams, Newell, Daldy, Whaler

We will have plenty of strikers not getting game time, and probably others in the rest of the squad to supplement the above.
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2019, 11:58:59 am »

Are the rules still place about how many players from your previous match squad have to be involved?

As much as I hate what the EFL have done with this trophy, we have plenty of youth (if they don't go on loan) that could do with minutes this year.

GK: Lashley

DF:  C.McWilliams, Hughes, J.Williams

MF:  Roberts, Pollock, S.McWilliams, Newell, Daldy, Whaler

We will have plenty of strikers not getting game time, and probably others in the rest of the squad to supplement the above.

I think Jack Daldy was one of the three that were released
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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2019, 13:21:10 pm »

Rules below:

7.3 Each EFL Club shall play its Full Available Strength in and during all Matches. Full Available Strength means the EFL Club must include at least four Qualifying Players in the ten outfield Players named in the starting eleven on the Team Sheet.

7.4 Qualifying Player means any Player who:
7.4.1 had started the immediately preceding First Team Fixture (as defined below);
7.4.2 subsequently starts the immediately following First Team Fixture;
7.4.3 is in the list of ten Players at the Club with the highest number of starting appearances in First Team Fixtures in the same Season;
7.4.4 has made forty or more starting appearances in First Team Fixtures or international equivalents (and not limited to the same Club or Season); or
7.4.5 is on standard loan from a Premier League Club or any EFL Club operating a Category One Academy.

- Any goalkeeper can play
- Shaun McWilliams isn't too far away from fulfilling rule 7.4.4
- I'm sure Jay Williams and Scott Pollock will start a few league games

So there's plenty of room in the starting XI to give youth a chance.
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